Myths, Hypotheses and Facts Concerning the Origin of Peoples

[Auteur]

Right. And it was only after 1967 that they wanted their own country. They didn't call for it when Jordan occupied the land for 19 years.

Yes they did.

Palestinian propaganda lie.

When occupied by Jordan, Palestinians on the west bank recieved full civil rights, including the right to vote, something radically different from their dilemma today. The sense of rage and solidarity came through the Israeli expusion and occupation.

Jews in Brooklyn don't call for independence and separation, because they are content with the status quo. You are being hypocritical in your judgements. Yes, theoretically Palestinian Arabs could retreat to some other country (and many have), but we could say the same thing about Jews. There are many countries Jews could retreat to, and be more than welcomed, and more than fit in, in regard to language, culture, and sociological attributes. Why don't they? They like it where they are, and feel a certain nostalgic sense of home. So too the Palestinians.

Are you going to claim superiority on the basis of race or ethnicity? If so, you are skating on thin ice, as they say in my part of the world.

 

[Auteur]

Right. And it was only after 1967 that they wanted their own country. They didn't call for it when Jordan occupied the land for 19 years.

Yes they did.

Palestinian propaganda lie.

Jews in Brooklyn haven't called for an independent country either, because they are content with the way things are. If Brooklyn were invaded by the Arab Legion, you can bet many would be arguing for some sort of separation, and defined state.

 

[Hossfly]

Yes they did.

Palestinian propaganda lie.

When occupied by Jordan, Palestinians on the west bank recieved full civil rights, including the right to vote, something radically different from their dilemma today. The sense of rage and solidarity came through the Israeli expusion and occupation.

Jews in Brooklyn don't call for independence and separation, because they are content with the status quo. You are being hypocritical in your judgements. Yes, theoretically Palestinian Arabs could retreat to some other country (and many have), but we could say the same thing about Jews. There are many countries Jews could retreat to, and be more than welcomed, and more than fit in, in regard to language, culture, and sociological attributes. Why don't they? They like it where they are, and feel a certain nostalgic sense of home. So too the Palestinians.

Are you going to claim superiority on the basis of race or ethnicity? If so, you are skating on thin ice, as they say in my part of the world.

And what part of the world might that be? Could you prove to us from a legitimate source that the "Palestinians" on the West Bank received full civil rights and were able to vote in the Jordanian elections? No doubt you can also show us where those in Gaza were able to vote in the Egyptian elections and got full civil rights. Say, while we are at it, what do you think of the Turks occupying a large part of Cyrus? Or the Chinese occupying Tibet. Since you are so against "occupation," surely you must be on other forums speaking out about these occupations unless you are only interested if the Jews are involved in something.

 

[toastman]

Hossly, don't you find it funny that Auteur talks about Palestinians in Jordan, but he forgets to mention two key points:

Black September in Jordan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Some historians have the death toll of Palestinians after Black September at 20 000, mostly civilians.

Then, there's the current situation of Palestinians living in Jordan now.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXPGUdS2Fpc]"Brotherly Love" - Arab Treatment of Palestinian Arabs - YouTube[/ame]

330 000 Palestinian refugees living in refugee camps

They are denied rights, citizenship and live like animals

 

[toastman]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fttieS3PpUc]Men Behind the Curtain - YouTube[/ame]

Interesting video

 

[P F Tinmore]

palestinians are a myth says hamas member "they are just saudis and egyptians" - YouTube

"palestinian" common family names:

Just like "Saddam Hussein al-Tikriti" born in "tikrit iraq"
The family names(Nisbah نسب&#1577 of Arabs who now occupy judea reveal their country of origin:
"Masri" OR "al-masri" =from Egypt ,Hamas member of Parliament in gaza, Mushir al-Masri (the word "masri" littelery means "the egyption" in arabic !).

"Khamis"= from Bahrain "Salem Hanna Khamis"
"al-ubayyidi" or "al-Obeidi"= from sudan "al-ubayyid"
"al-Faruqi"= Mosul iraq
"al-Araj" = Morocco,a member of the Saadi Dynasty "Hussein al-Araj"
"al-Lubnani" =the lebanese
"al-Mughrabi" = the Moroccan ("Maghreb" -- meaning "West" in Arabic, and usually referring to North Africa or specifically to Morocco) ,"Dalal Mughrabi"
"al-Djazair"=the Algerian
"al-Qurashi"=saudi arabia "clan of Quraish"
"al-azd" =yemen "Azd tribe"
"al-Yamani"= the Yemeni "Issam Al Yamani"
"al-Afghani" = the Afghan
"Al-Sidawi" = from "Sidon" lebanon
"Al-fayyumi" = from "Faiyum" egypt
"al-Hijazi" or "Hijazi" = present-day saudi arabia "Ahlam Higazi, a "Palestinian" artist from Hebron"
"al-Hindi" =the Indian "Amin al-Hindi"
"al-Tamimi" or "Tamimi" = from the tribe or clan of Banu-Tamim "Azzam Tamimi"
"Hamati" = from syria ( HAMA city)
"Omayya" = from saudi arabia "Banu Omayya tribe" "Omayya Joha" "palestinian artist" "
"Othman" = turkey
"murad" =yemen "murad tribe"
"Alawi" = from syria (minority religious group in syria)
"Iraqi" =from Iraq.
"halabi" =from aleppo syria
"Dajani"= from saudi arabia
"Mattar" = from YEMEN (the village of BANI Mattar)
"al-baghdadi"= from bagdad iraq.
"Tarabulsi"= Tarabulus-Tripoli, Lebanon.
"Hourani" =Houran Syria.
"Zubeidi"= from iraq "Zubeidi tribe" "Zakaria Zubeidi"
"al-Husayni" =saudi arabia.
"Saudi" =Saudi Arabia.
"Metzarwah"=egypt.
"Barda***********wil" ="salah bardawil" HAMAS legislator in gaza,egypt "bardawil lake" area
"nashashibi"= syria.
"Bushnak" =bosnia
"zoabi"= from iraq "Haneen Zoabi".
"Turki" =turkey "Daud Turki"
"al-Kurd" = kurdistan.
"Haddadins" = YEMEN descended from Ghassanid Christian Arabs.
"Arab Abu-Kishk" = Egypt.(Bedouins)
"Arab al shakirat" = Egypt (Bedouins)
"Arab al zabidat" = Egypt (Bedouins)
"Arab al aramsha" = Egypt (Bedouins)
"Abu Sitta" =In Arabic' Abu means father and sitta means six. Translated it actually means father of six. The Abu Sitta family primarily received this name because around the year 1700, a well known knight of the large Al-Tarabeen tribe always had six slaves (i.e. fedawyah, bodyguards), 3 on each side, with him. They were with him wherever he went, day or night. Hence the name "ABU SITTA." =Egypt (Bedouins) "Salman Abu Sitta "
"Nuba, Hebron" =founded by the "nuba people"
Even "Arafat", the most famous fakestinian and leader of the terrorist grup the  P.L.O, is not native to judea. He called himself a "Palestinian refugee" and claimed he was born in jerusalem ! BUT spoke
Arabic with Egyptian dialect. He was born in 1929 Cairo, Egypt. He served in the Egyptian army, studied in the University of Cairo, and lived in Cairo until 1956 !
Arafat's full name was Mohammed Abdel Rahman Abdel Raouf Arafat al-Qudwa al-Husseini.
"Al-Qudwa" tribe origin?


-Professor Azmi Bishara(Arabic: عزمي بشار&#1577-- a "palestinian arab"

"There is no "palestinian nation" !
when were there any Palestinians???
until the end of the 19th century, Palestine was the south of "Greater Syria" another resent invention.
there is only an arab nation !
the word "palestine" its self is a colonial invention used by the romans in order to erase the jewish identity of judea and israel.
even the "Palestinian National Charter" recognizes all the jews living in the region prior to the 1948 war as "palestinians" !
its an intellectual fad, divorced from the concerns of uneducated people"




-Zuheir Mohsen (Arabic: زهير محس&#1606- top p.l.o member responsible for Damur massacre.

"The "Palestinian people" does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a "Palestinian people".."

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeF7jqf0GU4]THE NAME GAME SHIRLEY ELLIS - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Roudy]

Yes they did.

Palestinian propaganda lie.

When occupied by Jordan, Palestinians on the west bank recieved full civil rights, including the right to vote, something radically different from their dilemma today. The sense of rage and solidarity came through the Israeli expusion and occupation.

Jews in Brooklyn don't call for independence and separation, because they are content with the status quo. You are being hypocritical in your judgements. Yes, theoretically Palestinian Arabs could retreat to some other country (and many have), but we could say the same thing about Jews. There are many countries Jews could retreat to, and be more than welcomed, and more than fit in, in regard to language, culture, and sociological attributes. Why don't they? They like it where they are, and feel a certain nostalgic sense of home. So too the Palestinians.

Are you going to claim superiority on the basis of race or ethnicity? If so, you are skating on thin ice, as they say in my part of the world.

Ha ha ha ha. "Full civil rights", and that's why King Hussein of Jordan slaughtered thousands of Palestinians in 1971, also known as Black September. Of course King Hussien dies an Arab hero, a Nobel peace prize winner to top it off.

Another ignorant comment:

Black September in Jordan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The term Black September (Arabic: أيلول الأسود* aylūl al-aswad) refers to the Jordanian Civil War that began in September 1970 and ended in July of 1971. The conflict was fought between the two major components of the Jordanian population, the Palestinians represented by the Palestine Liberation Organisation under the leadership of Yasser Arafat and the Trans-Jordanians represented by the Jordanian Armed Forces under the leadership of King Hussein.[5] At its core the civil war sought to determine if Jordan would be ruled by the Palestine Liberation Organisation or the Hashemite Monarchy.[6] The war resulted in the deaths of thousands of people, the vast majority Palestinian.[3] Armed conflict lasted until July 1971 with the expulsion of the Palestine Liberation Organisation and thousands of Palestinian fighters to Lebanon.