Myths about ObamaCare

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    "You have to pass the bill to see what's inside" - Nancy Pelosi

    "We know the public doesn't like it, the question is whether or not the Congress can do it" -ObamaCare architect on CSPAN




    *) Everyone in the U.S. will be covered by health care.
    FALSE
    Those who do not purchase health care or receive free coverage from the government will not have access to all services.

    *) Everyone will pay their fair share.
    FALSE
    50% of total health care costs are incurred by 5% of the population.
    Illegal aliens will not be required to purchase health insurance.
    Walfare recipients will not be required to pay , ...or pay low amounts

    *) Having my medical records centralized will be geatly beneficial for me.
    FALSE
    The health care industry will determine what proceedure you need and every doctor you see will have the same information.
    The days of getting a second opinion are over.


    *) Health care premiums will go down
    FALSE
    According to the current program you can be charged up to 9.5% of your income, which would be a significant increase for most Americans, and percentage rates can be raised at any time.
    The health care industry will be able to bill any and all expenses to the public.

    *) RomneyCare is different from ObamaCare.
    FALSE
    According to a Massachusetts ObamaCare architect, RomneyCare was the state prototype and trial-run for ObamaCare


    *) When i'm on ObamaCare all of my expenses will be covered.
    FALSE
    There is nothing in the bill that says they can not raise your premiums(up to 9.5% of your income).

    *) When i'm on ObamaCare all my needed proceedures will be covered.
    FALSE
    The validity of your proceedures will be determined by the IPAB "death panels", who answer to no one, and have the sole purpose of slashing costs.


    *) ObamaCare saves the country money.
    FALSE
    Obama has already stated that the cost will be double what it was originally projected (900billion x 2)
    Currently the plan is stealing from the Medicare fund.


    *) The ObamaCare Mandate is Constitutional.
    FALSE
    Whether or not our corrupt Supreme Court makes the right ruling , which it probably won't , the government is drawing the power from a Supreme Court ruling from the 40's where a farmer was ordered not to plant crops on the idea it harmed the intire market.
    No one present at the creation of the Constituion would approve of the ObamaCare mandate.

    *) Big business Health Insurance companies don't like the plan.
    FALSE
    Health Insurance companies sent out notices that they were going to raise rates by 300% in an effort to scare the public into dropping opposition to the bill.
    Health Insurance companies will receive 40 million new customers because of the mandate.

    *) No one can be turned down for health care coverage,especially for pre-existing problems.
    TRUE
    Everyone will be welcome to pay for insurance.
    Whether or not you get the care you think you need is a different story.
    The validity of your procedures will be determined by the IPAB "death panels", who answer to no one, and have the sole purpose of slashing costs.

    *) The rich will pay their fair share for the nation.
    FALSE
    Just like Social Security, businesses will be capped at certain amounts so they DON'T pay their fair share.

    *) Doctors will like this new system.
    FALSE
    The government and the health care industries will be more heavily involved with wages that doctors are paid.
    Doctors that handle customers that earn the median wages are already scheduled to take a large pay decrease.
    Doctors will be forced to aim for health care guidelines instead of suggested treatments.

    *) Obama said i can keep the current plan if i want to.
    FALSE
    Your current plan will be viewed as a luxury.
    Companies will be seeking government minimums to keep costs at the lowest rates.
    There will be complete changes to the system.

    *) ObamaCare is a Socialist system.
    TRUE AND FALSE
    Because the system is not fully run by the government it is not Socialist Communist , but instead it forced the country to patron big business, and therefor would be "Socialist Capitalist"


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    "You have to pass the bill to see what's inside" - Nancy Pelosi

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    Funny how you begin this "mythbusting" post with an out of context quote, didn't read the rest.
     
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    A tidal wave of BS Pubcrappe....
     
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    True but now around 35million more people will have health care
     
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    Well how about this Myth: 50 million "uninsured"???
    10 million are NOT citizens!
    14 million said they were not insured but covered by Medicaid!
    The BIGGEST f..king myth..
    18 million under age 34 earning over $50,000 WANT health insurance! LIE!
    Yet these people who could afford employer co-pays turned down because:
    a) They had no NEED! They were healthy!
    b) any needs they had they paid out of pocket!
    So for the FACT that there are truly 8 million who want and need insurance NOT 50 million Obamacare is destroying health care!
    In other words Obama care has another agenda and to hell with the country!
     
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    Pelosi meant implemented. Obviously most people have no clue, thanks to a tidal wave of Pubcrappe and a cowardly media.
     
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    The Supreme Court will safely knock it down. You can comment on that here. http://www.usmessageboard.com/law-a...e-and-a-preview-of-the-arguments-to-come.html Nevertheless, there is no reason to beleive the claims made by the government are anything but false as they were for medicaid and medicare. It should come as no big surprize that ObamaCare will not only fail in acheiving its desired ends but will cost more than triple/quadrouple the origional quote when it is all said and done. Thats if the Supreme Court doesent take it out first.
     
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    Total BULLSHYTTE from the Pub propaganda machine. Most are poor workers.
     
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    AND you are a f..kiing IDIOT!
    The Census bureau ADMITS 10 million counted as UNINSURED were not citizens!
    In 2003, a BlueCross BlueShield Association study estimated that about 14 million of the uninsured were eligible for Medicaid and SCHIP
    When all of these factors are put together, the 2003 BlueCross BlueShield study determined that 8.2 million Americans are actually without coverage for the long haul, because they are too poor to purchase health care but earn too much to qualify for government assistance.
    The American Spectator : The Myth of the 46 Million

    IDIOTS like YOU have NO idea how insurance works MUCH less simple arithmetic!
    Subtract from frequently myth number 50 million uninsured:
    10 million not citizens.. 14 million covered by Medicaid 18 million who could afford but
    DON"T WANT health insurance crammed down their throats and you have
    8 million that truly need health insurance NOT 50 million!

    BUT idiots like you who have NO idea about big numbers much less math haven't figured that out! Dum.. di..K!
     

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