Myth of nazi strength

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    The Myth of the Nazi War Machine

    I read this somewhere else. And some pro-nazis were upset though. I dont know whether this article is pro or anti nazi though nor do I give a shit. But in my opinion the nazi strength is indeed exaggerated. The USA used not more then 20% of their actual power, the USA was much stronger then Germany and Japan, so was Britain. Some think the nazis were brought to power by some elites and such, it could be because germany was in WW1 the bad guy so it was the perfect country for this evil role in WW2. Opinions?
     
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    Germany waged war with some success on quite a few fronts against many enemies before Russia finally exhausted it.
     
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    It isn't always about sheer power, but also timing and guile. THREE things saved Britain from Hitler's conquest:
    1. The development of radar aided by American research and manufacturing which allowed Britain to see exactly where and when to apply their sparse air defenses just as needed to barely stay on top of overwhelming German attacks.
    2. A mistake by the Germans of scanning the wrong band of frequencies which allowed them to miss the fact that Britain had an effective radar net in place for early detection of their attacks---- again mostly a result of ongoing aid and assistance by the USA to refine radar resolution.
    3. The use of a radar "trick" as the Germans caught up with radar technology which fooled the Nazis into thinking the Brits were massing a huge attack to the north and spread their forces out to cover it, while the real British counterattack happened far away, giving them the edge to penetrate German forces and break the Germans.
    The principle failing of the Germans which led to their defeat wasn't a lack of strength, but was due mostly to miscalculations by Hitler himself fueled by his own ego. His biggest mistake was to name the Americans an enemy and drag us into the war, then turn around and attack Russia as well.
     
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    The Wehrmacht was the single most powerful army.

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    Interesting article. By any measure Germany was one of the most powerful nations on earth. Just not powerful enough to stand up to America and the British Empire together.
    It’s been suggested, in “The Death of Money” among others, that Germany’s expansion was driven by the need to loot neighboring central banks’s gold reserves to pay for Hitler’s deficit spending pre-war. As the article points out Germany had few natural resources beside coal and to import everything.
     
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    Both Germany and Japan were motivated by madmen who convinced the military and the civilians to believe that they were destined to rule the world. The leadership of the Japanese military was seriously flawed all the way down to the basic soldier but the German military was well trained and equipped and motivated. Germany wasn't able to gobble up enough resources from conquered nations in time to confront the Allied industrial superiority in the air and at sea and later on land and the leadership became detached and unmotivated and incoherent and they ran out of manpower and supplies on all fronts..
     
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    I'm not so sure that "world domination" was in either country's plans. Both wanted to establish their status as major players on the world stage, but invading the Americas or even eliminating the British Empire was not a strategic objective. Hitler admired the British and wanted to make peace with them, while the Japanese expansion was based on acquiring raw materials for their industries. Russia and China were simply viewed as good agricultural land which needed to have its current occupants removed.
     
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    Nazi Germany had advantage over many of its competitors due to having Soviets hand them a bunch of fuel, and other resources.

    Once Nazis invaded Soviets, those resources dwindled.

    Of course, Nazis would've failed 1 vs 1 against Soviets.

    But, commonly left out of knowledge, is that some other countries like Italy, Romania, Finland, Hungary, Croatia & Slovakia had invaded Soviets too, in Operation Barbarossa.
     
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    Barbarossa was delayed six weeks because of Mussolini's misadventure against Greece. Otherwise, the German army might have taken Moscow, which was the hub of Soviet rail transportation, in 1941. That would have eliminated a coordinated counter attack and allowed the German army to mop up Soviet units piecemeal the following year. By the time Allied military equipment could begin arriving in 1943, the Soviets might have been pushed back behind the Urals and lost the capability of invading Europe.
     
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    1. it doesn't mean Britain would've lost with out radar
    2. we bombed the crap out of Japan and Germany yet they still didn't surrender until the Abombs and Russia was in Berlin
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