My way or the highway?

I don't see how any Democrat has a leg to stand on with any complaints. they controlled both houses of congress when this budget should have been passed. But we all know this...

i know you didn't forget about that whole filibuster thing the repubs kept doing, did you?

the filibuster dog don't hunt. you passed a fucked up health care bill without a single solitary Republican.. try again..
 
I don't see how any Democrat has a leg to stand on with any complaints. they controlled both houses of congress when this budget should have been passed. But we all know this...

i know you didn't forget about that whole filibuster thing the repubs kept doing, did you?

:eusa_hand:

please link me to a filibuster of the dems budget plan last year.....

yes, i would like to see this as well....
 
i know you didn't forget about that whole filibuster thing the repubs kept doing, did you?

There is also some forgetful memory on that issue that the Democrats in the House aren't all in one line like the GOP on votes.

:lol:

you're still trotting out this old tired line? and you claim to be non-partisan...

:lol:

MOD-Dork Is a Huge Partisan Youngling...that hasn't experienced LIFE...

He's in the *IDIOT* Class here on USMB
 
I don't see how any Democrat has a leg to stand on with any complaints. they controlled both houses of congress when this budget should have been passed. But we all know this...

i know you didn't forget about that whole filibuster thing the repubs kept doing, did you?

the filibuster dog don't hunt. you passed a fucked up health care bill without a single solitary Republican.. try again..

this is the first i've heard of this filibuster....is it true? where did this come from?
 
i know you didn't forget about that whole filibuster thing the repubs kept doing, did you?

There is also some forgetful memory on that issue that the Democrats in the House aren't all in one line like the GOP on votes.

:lol:

you're still trotting out this old tired line? and you claim to be non-partisan...

:lol:

MODDORK is a young MORON that doesn't know LIFE
 
There is also some forgetful memory on that issue that the Democrats in the House aren't all in one line like the GOP on votes.

:lol:

you're still trotting out this old tired line? and you claim to be non-partisan...

:lol:

MOD-Dork Is a Huge Partisan Youngling...that hasn't experienced LIFE...

He's in the *IDIOT* Class here on USMB

he occasionally has good points...but when he says he is non-partisan etc....etc....its just laughable...or is it he claims to not lean left, i forget with him, he changes all the time
 
i know you didn't forget about that whole filibuster thing the repubs kept doing, did you?

the filibuster dog don't hunt. you passed a fucked up health care bill without a single solitary Republican.. try again..

this is the first i've heard of this filibuster....is it true? where did this come from?

I don't remember the specifics but the Republicans did stop that massive spending bill. It was all 12 rolled into one... No debate ect ect.....
 
I don't see how any Democrat has a leg to stand on with any complaints. they controlled both houses of congress when this budget should have been passed. But we all know this...

i know you didn't forget about that whole filibuster thing the repubs kept doing, did you?

Nope, I didn't forget. They prevented one massive spending bill that they were not given the time to read or debate. And that was already after the fiscal year started. Sorry but todays mess is still the 111th congress's fault. Why hasn't the Democrat controlled Senate came up with a counter proposal to the House bill?

Democrats have dropped the ball and are trying to blame the Tea Party. How many members of congress are actually Tea Party?

They cannot...they won't...they'll turn it into a political FOOTBALL...while refusing BLAME for their inaction during the 110th

The Statists FUCKED UP. Their Blame will be FAR and reaching...
 
I don't see how any Democrat has a leg to stand on with any complaints. they controlled both houses of congress when this budget should have been passed. But we all know this...

i know you didn't forget about that whole filibuster thing the repubs kept doing, did you?

Nope, I didn't forget. They prevented one massive spending bill that they were not given the time to read or debate. And that was already after the fiscal year started. Sorry but todays mess is still the 111th congress's fault. Why hasn't the Democrat controlled Senate came up with a counter proposal to the House bill?

Democrats have dropped the ball and are trying to blame the Tea Party. How many members of congress are actually Tea Party?

excuse me ollie, but they never intended to the right way......and they had other chances...




Democrats see key ingredients for passage of 2011 budget
By Humberto Sanchez CongressDaily February 1, 2010

Key Democrats say they are confident of passing a fiscal 2011 budget this year, but added they face growing challenges with the need to fund efforts to create jobs in the wake of a severe economic recession, all the while looking for ways to cut the historically high deficit.

To complete the task, Democratic leaders will have to develop a document that fiscally conservative Democrats can vote for without alienating liberal Democrats who want to protect spending for social programs.

President Obama Monday kicked off the process by unveiling his fiscal 2011 budget proposal, which includes a three-year freeze on nonsecurity spending, which administration officials have claimed will not short Democratic priorities.

snip-

Conrad also said he will explore using reconciliation in the fiscal 2011 budget to prevent Republicans from blocking legislation by requiring 60 votes for passage. The Senate "is in danger of becoming dysfunctional, and I think frankly we have to reconsider the rules by which this body is governed," Conrad said. "We have got to take action on this agenda for the country." He added: "This body was designed to slow things down. It was not designed to prevent important action on the problems facing the country."


Democrats see key ingredients for passage of 2011 budget (2/1/10) -- GovExec.com



they didn't NEED any Republicans NOT A ONE.


and aside from the senate, why hasn't the president? was it really more important to go kiss Sharptons ass today, of all days?
and

Dems won’t pass budget in 2010
By Jared Allen - 06/22/10 12:01 AM ET

House Democrats will not pass a budget blueprint in 2010, Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) will confirm in a speech on Tuesday.

But Hoyer will vow to crack down on government spending, saying Democrats will enforce spending limits that are lower than what President Barack Obama has called for.

“It isn’t possible to debate and pass a realistic, long-term budget until we’ve considered the bipartisan commission’s deficit-reduction plan, which is expected in December,” according to Hoyer’s prepared remarks that were provided to The Hill.

The House has never failed to pass an annual budget resolution since the current budget rules were put into place in 1974. Hoyer this spring noted that the GOP-led Congress didn’t pass a final resolution in 1998, 2004 and 2006.

Dems won
 
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You are all bringing up the root of the problem. At this point each side is blaming the other for delaying a budget plan. Democrats blame Republicans for too strong of cuts or filibustering before. Republicans blame Democrats for not passing a budget before or resisting necessary budget cuts. The single fact remains at the moment that Republicans are pushing for the solution to the problem, short and long term. The Democrats need to get on board and start being responsible.
 
the filibuster dog don't hunt. you passed a fucked up health care bill without a single solitary Republican.. try again..

this is the first i've heard of this filibuster....is it true? where did this come from?

I don't remember the specifics but the Republicans did stop that massive spending bill. It was all 12 rolled into one... No debate ect ect.....

ok...so this current budget debate, is a direct result of the filibuster?

notwithstanding the current compromise issues...
 
You are all bringing up the root of the problem. At this point each side is blaming the other for delaying a budget plan. Democrats blame Republicans for too strong of cuts or filibustering before. Republicans blame Democrats for not passing a budget before or resisting necessary budget cuts. The single fact remains at the moment that Republicans are pushing for the solution to the problem, short and long term. The Democrats need to get on board and start being responsible.

And when that happens? PIGS will FLY...Socialists wil cease to demegogue...the MEDIA will turn Conservative...On a lighter note? Dogs and Cats will live together...
 
There is also some forgetful memory on that issue that the Democrats in the House aren't all in one line like the GOP on votes.

:lol:

you're still trotting out this old tired line? and you claim to be non-partisan...

:lol:

MOD-Dork Is a Huge Partisan Youngling...that hasn't experienced LIFE...

He's in the *IDIOT* Class here on USMB
It is amazing when he was just proved wrong he went bye bye with tail between legs.
 
this is the first i've heard of this filibuster....is it true? where did this come from?

I don't remember the specifics but the Republicans did stop that massive spending bill. It was all 12 rolled into one... No debate ect ect.....

ok...so this current budget debate, is a direct result of the filibuster?

notwithstanding the current compromise issues...

I have googled my butt off, I cannot find that, the dems did pass a house bill and DEEMED a 1 trillion budget bill passed, but I can find no record of the senate voting on that AND they still had a super majority, they could have used reconciliation ( conrads comment above) to pass it meaning all they needed was 50, which they had, easily.


here ya go-




House Democrats ‘Deem’ Faux $1.1 Trillion Budget ‘as Passed’
by Connie Hair
07/02/2010

Last night, as part of a procedural vote on the emergency war supplemental bill, House Democrats attached a document that “deemed as passed” a non-existent $1.12 trillion budget. The execution of the “deeming” document allows Democrats to start spending money for Fiscal Year 2011 without the pesky constraints of a budget.

The procedural vote passed 215-210 with no Republicans voting in favor and 38 Democrats crossing the aisle to vote against deeming the faux budget resolution passed.

Never before—since the creation of the Congressional budget process—has the House failed to pass a budget, failed to propose a budget then deemed the non-existent budget as passed as a means to avoid a direct, recorded vote on a budget, but still allow Congress to spend taxpayer money.

House Budget Committee Ranking Member Paul Ryan (R-Wisc.) warned this was the green light for Democrats to continue their out-of-control spending virtually unchecked.

“Facing a record deficit and a tidal wave of debt, House Democrats decided it was politically inconvenient to put forward a budget and account for their fiscal recklessness. With no priorities and no restraints, the spending, taxing, and borrowing will continue unchecked for the coming fiscal year,” Ryan said. “The so-called ‘budget enforcement resolution’ enforces no budget, but instead provides a green light for the Appropriators to continue spending, exacerbating our looming fiscal crisis.”

more at-
House Democrats ‘Deem’ Faux $1.1 Trillion Budget ‘as Passed’ - HUMAN EVENTS




and here,
http://www.creators.com/opinion/debra-saunders/if-you-can-t-budget-you-can-t-govern.html

and here-
Steny Hoyer: No budget this year
By SIMMI AUJLA | 6/22/10 1:02 PM EDT


Majority Leader Steny Hoyer made official Tuesday morning what most insiders have known for months: Congress won’t do a budget this year.

Instead, Democrats are pushing an alternative route that falls well short of the more rigorous annual budget resolution — a short-term resolution that will call for discretionary spending lower than in President Barack Obama’s fiscal 2011 budget. But he said Congress wouldn’t take longer-term budget action before hearing from Obama’s fiscal commission in December. Republicans have lambasted Democrats for not passing a budget resolution, saying that’s the first time it’s happened since 1976.

In pushing for budget cuts in his speech before an event sponsored by the progressive think tank Third Way, Hoyer urged scrutiny of military and entitlement spending on Tuesday, while also defending Congress’ spending as necessary to revive the economy.



more -

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0610/38843.html



there was no budget submitted to the senate to consider.
 
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this is the first i've heard of this filibuster....is it true? where did this come from?

I don't remember the specifics but the Republicans did stop that massive spending bill. It was all 12 rolled into one... No debate ect ect.....

ok...so this current budget debate, is a direct result of the filibuster?

notwithstanding the current compromise issues...
Thing is? DEMOCRATS could have over-ridden *ANY* Fillabuster By the Republicans...

FACT is NO budget was given by the Democrats...

*ELECTION YEAR*

What the Statist Democrats wanted to do would have been Voo-DOO for them in an election year...

They chose to wait...and BLAME IT ON THE Republicans after the FACT...

And it still doesn't wash...

They fucked up...And is *WHY* we are where we are *NOW*...
 
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This is far too common among politicians, Democrats specifically. If an issue could hurt them in the next election they either push it off for someone else to take the wrath for or simply half side-step the issue and act on what they think will keep them in power for another term. The true leaders are those who step up to the plate and address the current problems. The Democrats had their chance to pass the budget but wanted to disguise their true agenda by passing the blame on to Republicans and trying to slide their pet projects through. The cuts need to happen and they need to happen now.
 
I don't see how any Democrat has a leg to stand on with any complaints. they controlled both houses of congress when this budget should have been passed. But we all know this...

i know you didn't forget about that whole filibuster thing the repubs kept doing, did you?

So what did Democrats do about the Budget when they controlled Both Houses and the WH? of thats right, first that passed 2 HUGE, Bigger than ever budgets, then last year they forgot to pass one at all.

Now they fight a 2% cut of the Deficit? and still you support them?

Laughable.
 
the tea loons are proof that you should never give school yard bullies what they ask for because they keep asking for more and nothing is ever enough.

they asked for 32 billion. the president gave them 33 billion.

screw 'em. let 'em have their temper tantrum. call their bluff.

Kind of like the public employee unions.

Call their bluff too.
 
I don't see how any Democrat has a leg to stand on with any complaints. they controlled both houses of congress when this budget should have been passed. But we all know this...

i know you didn't forget about that whole filibuster thing the repubs kept doing, did you?

When did the GOP filibuster a budget proposal?
Oh, sorry. That's asking you to provide proof of something and you don't do that. You just spew ignorant ill informed opinions and then insult people.

The Democrats have been an enormous failure, all the way back to 2006 when Pelosi promised "the most ethical Congress in history." Now the GOP is doing what people elected them to do, shrink government, balance the budget, get rid of Obamacare. And all the Dems can do is say no. No to eliminating corporate welfare. No to saving Medicare. No to reducing the Pentagon budget. No to keeping the government open.
Obama wants a shutdown, believing it will be a replay of, what?, 1996, when the press drubbed the GOP. But it won't play out that way.
 

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