My Verdict is in

[Charles_Main]

So after the election, I said in here, and I meant it. That I was hopeful that now that he was back in Office Obama would start worrying about legacy and less about his base and he might actually get serious about Balancing the Budget and Reforming Entitlements.

His plan, he out lined today blows that Hope right out of the water. It confirms to me that he is still as far left as ever, and has no intentions for working with the other side.

It's really a laughable plan, with no spending cuts at all, and another 50 Billion stimulus. then there is how he wants congress to give him the power to raise the Debt limit all on his own.

Clearly that is not a serious proposal, and he knows full well the GOP could never agree to it.

So, as I feared Obama actually wants us to go over the Cliff. He wants everyone's taxes to go up, and Defense spending to be gutted. He knows he can get both with out any of the blame simply by not compromising with the GOP now.

But, I don't really blame him. The GOP did this to themselves when they set up this fucking Cliff BS. They should have been able to predict that Obama would actually want it to happen.

That way he can blame taxes going up on all people on the GOP, and start calling for "new" tax cuts for the Middle and lower brackets after the first of the year.

It's going to be a very long 4 years, It is crystal clear to me now which direction Obama intends to go, the one I always thought he would go, despite holding out hope I was wrong.

Enjoy it America, You voted for it.

 

[Oddball]

Of course it's not a serious proposal...That's the point.

Then he can go out and call the republicans intransigent (even though only his toady underlings have ever met face-to-face with them) and his media buttbois will help him blame everything on the republicans.

It's 1995 all over again, dude.

 

[LoneLaugher]

This is serious. isn't it?

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/omb/budget/fy2013/assets/ccs.pdf

 

[Oddball]

Wanna give us the Cliff Notes., Chumlee?

 

[LoneLaugher]

Wanna give us the Cliff Notes., Chumlee?

Sure. It is about 4 trillion dollars in proposed budget cuts.....with specifics.....set forth by the Obama administration.

Great reading.

And....I am more a Rick than a Chumlee.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Taxes are historically low, only the brainwashed believe otherwise. Federal taxes that is; for state and local taxes and fees continue to rise. Cuts to health care, for seniors as well as those who cannot or who chose not to purchase health insurance will fall to local sources, sources already laying off cops and teachers and firefighters and their support staff.

Morons believe this can continue, we can all defend our homes, drill for water, treat our illnesses, fill potholes, discern the safety of our food, keep our air clean, etc. etc. and cut taxes. The irony of this is the odd dudes of the world believe the poor and working poor expect handouts, yet the callous conservatives expect a free lunch.

 

[Duped]

Clower and Piven: Obama wants to destroy our economy, and redistribute our wealth to the rest of the world. Why this escapes people I'm not smart enough to understand - very, very tuff times ahead!

 

[GoneBezerk]

He is working on destroying this country by spending too much money until the system falls apart.

Another fucking Stimulus??? Does he think this country is full of idiots?

He is a crack addict that is $100,000 in debt and stealing money from others to keep the habit going.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Clower and Piven: Obama wants to destroy our economy, and redistribute our wealth to the rest of the world. Why this escapes people I'm not smart enough to understand - very, very tuff times ahead!

Why does he want to do this, exactly?

 

[blackhawk]

So after the election, I said in here, and I meant it. That I was hopeful that now that he was back in Office Obama would start worrying about legacy and less about his base and he might actually get serious about Balancing the Budget and Reforming Entitlements.

His plan, he out lined today blows that Hope right out of the water. It confirms to me that he is still as far left as ever, and has no intentions for working with the other side.

It's really a laughable plan, with no spending cuts at all, and another 50 Billion stimulus. then there is how he wants congress to give him the power to raise the Debt limit all on his own.

Clearly that is not a serious proposal, and he knows full well the GOP could never agree to it.

So, as I feared Obama actually wants us to go over the Cliff. He wants everyone's taxes to go up, and Defense spending to be gutted. He knows he can get both with out any of the blame simply by not compromising with the GOP now.

But, I don't really blame him. The GOP did this to themselves when they set up this fucking Cliff BS. They should have been able to predict that Obama would actually want it to happen.

That way he can blame taxes going up on all people on the GOP, and start calling for "new" tax cuts for the Middle and lower brackets after the first of the year.

It's going to be a very long 4 years, It is crystal clear to me now which direction Obama intends to go, the one I always thought he would go, despite holding out hope I was wrong.

Enjoy it America, You voted for it.

Is anyone really surprised by the direction he went?

 

[BreezeWood]

It's really a laughable plan, with no spending cuts at all, and another 50 Billion stimulus. then there is how he wants congress to give him the power to raise the Debt limit all on his own.

why cut spending when stimulus has won the day ?

one that you left out is to extend the 2% reduction in payroll tax withholding - there are more ...

all in keeping with the goal of equal wealth distribution for all working Americans.

 

[WillowTree]

Clower and Piven: Obama wants to destroy our economy, and redistribute our wealth to the rest of the world. Why this escapes people I'm not smart enough to understand - very, very tuff times ahead!

Why does he want to do this, exactly?

He said it.


R E V E N G E!

 

[Oddball]

Wanna give us the Cliff Notes., Chumlee?

Sure. It is about 4 trillion dollars in proposed budget cuts.....with specifics.....set forth by the Obama administration.

Great reading.

And....I am more a Rick than a Chumlee.

No, you're definitely a Chumlee...And just where do those alleged $4 bil in cuts come from and spread out over what time frame?

 

[Duped]

Clower and Piven: Obama wants to destroy our economy, and redistribute our wealth to the rest of the world. Why this escapes people I'm not smart enough to understand - very, very tuff times ahead!

Why does he want to do this, exactly?

Ideology, racism, resentments.

 

[LoneLaugher]

You nutters should find out what direction he is taking before you decide to comment on it.

Pop the bubble, already! After your initial embarrassment, you'll feel great.

 

[GoneBezerk]

Dumbfuck...he is a socialist getting revenge on the US for his African socialist father that held the same beliefs.

Of course, scum like you are oblivious to his father's past, comments, etc despite Obamination's brother and a family friend stating O and his daddy are both socialists hellbent on getting revenge for "colonialism."

Clower and Piven: Obama wants to destroy our economy, and redistribute our wealth to the rest of the world. Why this escapes people I'm not smart enough to understand - very, very tuff times ahead!

Why does he want to do this, exactly?

 

[Staidhup]

So after the election, I said in here, and I meant it. That I was hopeful that now that he was back in Office Obama would start worrying about legacy and less about his base and he might actually get serious about Balancing the Budget and Reforming Entitlements.

His plan, he out lined today blows that Hope right out of the water. It confirms to me that he is still as far left as ever, and has no intentions for working with the other side.

It's really a laughable plan, with no spending cuts at all, and another 50 Billion stimulus. then there is how he wants congress to give him the power to raise the Debt limit all on his own.

Clearly that is not a serious proposal, and he knows full well the GOP could never agree to it.

So, as I feared Obama actually wants us to go over the Cliff. He wants everyone's taxes to go up, and Defense spending to be gutted. He knows he can get both with out any of the blame simply by not compromising with the GOP now.

But, I don't really blame him. The GOP did this to themselves when they set up this fucking Cliff BS. They should have been able to predict that Obama would actually want it to happen.

That way he can blame taxes going up on all people on the GOP, and start calling for "new" tax cuts for the Middle and lower brackets after the first of the year.

It's going to be a very long 4 years, It is crystal clear to me now which direction Obama intends to go, the one I always thought he would go, despite holding out hope I was wrong.

Enjoy it America, You voted for it.

It's all in his book, nothing new here. Who gives a rats ass, the guy is so disconnected from reality its pathetic. Whats puzzling is that apparently he didn't really know his father.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Wanna give us the Cliff Notes., Chumlee?

Sure. It is about 4 trillion dollars in proposed budget cuts.....with specifics.....set forth by the Obama administration.

Great reading.

And....I am more a Rick than a Chumlee.

No, you're definitely a Chumlee...And just where do those alleged $4 bil in cuts come from and spread out over what time frame?

I see. You are going to be a straight-up dick in this thread too. So much for witty pawn shop humor.

Read the fucking thing. It is there for you. Take the time to learn about the topic that you claim is so important to you. Spending cuts.......outlined and everything.

Here is is again.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/omb/budget/fy2013/assets/ccs.pdf

 

[GoneBezerk]

Dumbfuck....has the national debt become worse or not under Obamination?

At the same time, has the economy recovered under Obamination?

So let's see dumbfuck, he has spent more than any other POTUS in history and the economy isn't getting better but of course you have no problem with him spending more fucking money and taxing people that employ people.

You are a stupid pile of shit that should not be allowed to living outside a rubber room.

You nutters should find out what direction he is taking before you decide to comment on it.

Pop the bubble, already! After your initial embarrassment, you'll feel great.

 

[freedombecki]

So after the election, I said in here, and I meant it. That I was hopeful that now that he was back in Office Obama would start worrying about legacy and less about his base and he might actually get serious about Balancing the Budget and Reforming Entitlements.

His plan, he out lined today blows that Hope right out of the water. It confirms to me that he is still as far left as ever, and has no intentions for working with the other side.

It's really a laughable plan, with no spending cuts at all, and another 50 Billion stimulus. then there is how he wants congress to give him the power to raise the Debt limit all on his own.

Clearly that is not a serious proposal, and he knows full well the GOP could never agree to it.

So, as I feared Obama actually wants us to go over the Cliff. He wants everyone's taxes to go up, and Defense spending to be gutted. He knows he can get both with out any of the blame simply by not compromising with the GOP now.

But, I don't really blame him. The GOP did this to themselves when they set up this fucking Cliff BS. They should have been able to predict that Obama would actually want it to happen.

That way he can blame taxes going up on all people on the GOP, and start calling for "new" tax cuts for the Middle and lower brackets after the first of the year.

It's going to be a very long 4 years, It is crystal clear to me now which direction Obama intends to go, the one I always thought he would go, despite holding out hope I was wrong.

Enjoy it America, You voted for it.

No I didn't. I read Obama's damn voting record. I knew what he was but still don't know who he is.

I'm sorry you're shocked that I knew from his past record his future one would not venture all that far from it.

I can't believe people who pay absolutely zero attention to who votes which way on what spending are so zonked out they don't know many Republicans have been voting against spending for a long time.

We're in this shape because people do not read the damn Senate and congressional voting records.