My problem with the tea party

[code1211]

So, you think all tea partiers are republican?

You think they all voted for Bush?

You need to educate yourself, and come back after you have.

Indeed. TEA party folks are citizens not much unlike those that fought against Great Britain and King George...and they came from all walks of life.

The TEA party is a bunch of LIBERALS?!?

Who knew!

http://www.usmessageboard.com/educa...th-conservatism-america-was-born-liberal.html

The Founding Fathers were not Liberals. There is as great a chance that this crowd was Liberal as there is that they were from Africa.

 

[code1211]

At least two posters on this board claimed that the Tea Party membership and supporters want government out of their lives and want small government.
Yet when push comes to shove,,,,,:

Entitlement Reform: Tea Party’s Sound and Fury Signifies Nothing

For starters, polls by the New York Times and Bloomberg have found that although a vast majority of Tea Party supporters favor smaller government, they don’t want cuts in their Medicare or Social Security, a contradiction perfectly captured in a sign at a Tea Party rally: “Keep the Guvmint out of my Medicare.” Indeed, the Bloomberg poll discovered that even though Tea Partiers dislike ObamaCare, they want Medicare to offer more drug benefits and the government to force insurance companies to cover pre-existing conditions. The upshot is that while the rhetoric on entitlements has become bolder during this election, the discussion about reform has become tamer.

Entitlement Reform: Tea Party’s Sound and Fury Signifies Nothing - Shikha Dalmia - Uncommon Sense - Forbes

Now that was last fall. Has things changed?


Read more on Newsmax.com: Poll: Tea Party Not on Board Medicare/Medicaid Cuts

The tea party is apparently not on the Medicare-Medicaid-cutting bandwagon, so reports The Atlantic Wire.

In a recent McClatchy-Marist poll, 70 percent of ‘tea party supporters’ strongly opposed cutting the healthcare plan for the elderly and indigent, compared to about 80 percent of registered voters.

Poll: Tea Party Not on Board Medicare/Medicaid Cuts

It could be that TEA Party members have paid about 14% of their income into a Ponzi scheme run by thieves and liars in Washington DC for all of their working lives and now want that money back paid in the form of the promises made to them throughout their lives.

It could be that they want the liars and thieves to honor the bargain they have made.

The thieves and liars, led by the Campaigner in Chief, now are saying that they are out of money and need more.

Even the stupid litte TEA Party folks know that spending 3 trillion dollars in one year is impossble without corruption, theft and graft and we are just a tad pissed off.

The programs that you specify are programs that the working folks have incorporated into their planning. Yes, we actually plan based on what is real and what is possible. Politicians, free of any connection to reality, don't understand this.

Well, we think that there should be a quick return to reality. The addition of about 400 thieving, lying, corrupt and remorseless A-holes to the unemployment lines from the Congress led by a couple Jag offs from the White House would be a sign that things are improving.

It doesn't matter who replaces these morons. Nobody could do it worse.

At least, that's how I feel. I could be wrong.

 

[uscitizen]

Everyone I know in the Tea Party are ex rabid Bush supporters.

 

[uscitizen]

Indeed. TEA party folks are citizens not much unlike those that fought against Great Britain and King George...and they came from all walks of life.

The TEA party is a bunch of LIBERALS?!?

Who knew!

http://www.usmessageboard.com/educa...th-conservatism-america-was-born-liberal.html

The Founding Fathers were not Liberals. There is as great a chance that this crowd was Liberal as there is that they were from Africa.

No? Loyalists to the crown were the conservatives.
By definition they were.

 

[AVG-JOE]

The Taxed Enough Already Party is the silent majority of voters who have been fed up with both parties
since George Bush Sr. What broke their silence and finally woke many of them up was the health care bill. It will cost too much and gives way to much power to the government to tell us what we can and can not do.
It is mainly middle class people who have been taxed way too much ( soaked is the word I use) and wants government to become smaller, more manageable, and fiscally responsible, and to change the tax system.
It consists of Republicans, Independents and Conservative Democrats.
The main stream media's reporting of them as mainly republicans, old and racist is an out right lie and spin. It's what the mainstream media does in order to control the publics view.
The liberals by the media and political party were able to silence the conservative voice since the 70's until now.
Conservatives will not become silent again.
Conservatives have just as much right to their political views as the liberals.
The majority of voters will not be silenced by liberal attacks, misrepresentation, spins or out right lies.
Most of the voters are sick and tired of being called names and made out to be stupid.
It is the uber left who believe that government must take care of the masses because the masses can not take care of themselves. Americans are fed up with this and they want their freedoms back.
The Majority of Tea Party's want to take care of our old, our disabled,and our poor. They just have a different point of view on how to do it and they will not keep their mouths shut ever again, so get over it liberals. Conservatives voices are here to stay and Liberals need to learn how to compromise with them instead of my way or the highway attitude.

Sounds nice.

So how come everything in 'reality' has to be tied to another tax loop-hole for the uber-wealthy and/or infringing on abortion?

The rate of taxes, to what those taxes are applied and how one may avoid them are all attempts at social engineering.

Any tax is a cost. Any "loophole" is derived from a specific activity. The "loophole" is a desired activity not of the taxpayer, but of the tax collector. As he "allows" you to "take advantage" of the "loophole", he is in actuality directing you to do his bidding.

Tax and tax "loopholes" are both tools of control. The collectiuon of money allows government to exercise control. The loopholes expose the goals of that control.

That you don't even realize this is evidence of the elegance of this control.

Whatever gave you the impression that I don't understand the politics behind our bullshit tax code and its favoritism, cronyism and establishment that some piggies are "more equal" than the rest?

Can I ass-u-me from your post that you are defending our bullshit tax code with its favoritism, cronyism and treatment of some piggies as "more equal" than others?



"More equal" Piggy reference: Animal Farm - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[AVG-JOE]

Indeed. TEA party folks are citizens not much unlike those that fought against Great Britain and King George...and they came from all walks of life.

The TEA party is a bunch of LIBERALS?!?

Who knew!

http://www.usmessageboard.com/educa...th-conservatism-america-was-born-liberal.html

The Founding Fathers were not Liberals. There is as great a chance that this crowd was Liberal as there is that they were from Africa.

You got a link to back up that rather emphatic statement?

Benedict Arnold was a Conservative Torrie. If the conservatives had won the American Revolution, history would read quite differently.

'America' is the spawn of Liberal Thinking and low cost real estate.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Everyone I know in the Tea Party are ex rabid Bush supporters.

Who do you know in the Tea Party?