My photos of a templar historical reconstitution in my région Vienne/France

[Dalia]

 

[Dalia]

 

[Picaro]

Thanks for those. I knew historical recreation societies were big in parts of Europe, but never heard or saw much re France.

 

[yiostheoy]

Beautiful photos, thanks.

Those look a lot like the armor used in "Kingdom Of Heaven".

 

[Dalia]

Thanks for those. I knew historical recreation societies were big in parts of Europe, but never heard or saw much re France.

Hello, there a lot of différent recreation societies in France like Napoléon , Moyen age, WW2, Far west.

 

[Dalia]

Beautiful photos, thanks.

Those look a lot like the armor used in "Kingdom Of Heaven".

Bonsoir, there are different Templiars ( Templiars Knights, Hospices Knights, Teutonics Knights )

initially for that time, we'll talk that over Helms helmets ....

Take into account also for these "styles" or "models" in order question..either Templars or Hospices Teutonic or even the order of Lazarus etc ...

Note also the grade of the holder of the helmet and of course of the years époque..clothes and protections evolved.

For example some names helmets or helmets (I do not currently have all the images to accompany the names).

=> Bascinet
=> Headphones salad
=> Headphones and haubert
=> Barbute
=> Conical helmet or helmet Sugarloaf
=> Headset / helmet and nasal Cervelière

en Français :

=> Bacinet
=> Casque salade
=> Casque et haubert
=> Barbute
=> Casque conique ou heaume pain de sucre
=> Casque/heaume cervelière et nasale

 

[whitehall]

Fake Templars are a dime a dozen. The real Templars were murdered in the 1300's by the French monarchy and it took another couple of hundred years for the thousand year French monarchy to finally end up on the guillotine.

 

[Picaro]

Beautiful photos, thanks.

Those look a lot like the armor used in "Kingdom Of Heaven".

Bonsoir, there are different Templiars ( Templiars Knights, Hospices Knights, Teutonics Knights )

initially for that time, we'll talk that over Helms helmets ....

Take into account also for these "styles" or "models" in order question..either Templars or Hospices Teutonic or even the order of Lazarus etc ...

Note also the grade of the holder of the helmet and of course of the years époque..clothes and protections evolved.

For example some names helmets or helmets (I do not currently have all the images to accompany the names).

=> Bascinet
=> Headphones salad
=> Headphones and haubert
=> Barbute
=> Conical helmet or helmet Sugarloaf
=> Headset / helmet and nasal Cervelière

en Français :

=> Bacinet
=> Casque salade
=> Casque et haubert
=> Barbute
=> Casque conique ou heaume pain de sucre
=> Casque/heaume cervelière et nasale

Don't some of the helmet designs designate feudal rank as well?

 

[Picaro]

Thanks for those. I knew historical recreation societies were big in parts of Europe, but never heard or saw much re France.

Hello, there a lot of différent recreation societies in France like Napoléon , Moyen age, WW2, Far west.

I would definitely do the Napoleonic era thing if I were living there. The 'Far West' thing surprises me, though; it was such a short era, and not at all like the Hollywood nonsense, for Europeans to be interested in. That's kind of funny to me.

 

[Sbiker]

Beautiful photos, thanks.

Those look a lot like the armor used in "Kingdom Of Heaven".

Bonsoir, there are different Templiars ( Templiars Knights, Hospices Knights, Teutonics Knights )

initially for that time, we'll talk that over Helms helmets ....

Take into account also for these "styles" or "models" in order question..either Templars or Hospices Teutonic or even the order of Lazarus etc ...

Note also the grade of the holder of the helmet and of course of the years époque..clothes and protections evolved.

For example some names helmets or helmets (I do not currently have all the images to accompany the names).

=> Bascinet
=> Headphones salad
=> Headphones and haubert
=> Barbute
=> Conical helmet or helmet Sugarloaf
=> Headset / helmet and nasal Cervelière

en Français :

=> Bacinet
=> Casque salade
=> Casque et haubert
=> Barbute
=> Casque conique ou heaume pain de sucre
=> Casque/heaume cervelière et nasale

Most of this helmets, as I know, anachronism for Templars, because they exist till 1307 year. Bascinet - a helmet of XIV century (after 1320), Barbute and Salad - of XV century (Joan of Ark knew more about them l)))... Even Shugarloaf is a "high-tech" for Templars

I see a quantity of mistakes at this photo.... only because I took part at reconstruction of Templars here ))) Instead of all this moments, I very glad to see interest to historic reconstruction in all countries and hope to take part in any big event in future )))

 

[Sbiker]

Fake Templars are a dime a dozen. The real Templars were murdered in the 1300's by the French monarchy and it took another couple of hundred years for the thousand year French monarchy to finally end up on the guillotine.

Material reconstruction allow us to verify some theories and legends about past - but how could we reconstruct a medieval way of thinking without a harm for ourself? In current times mental hospitals are overflowed without it)

Only modelling - and using modern ways to learn and make experiments

 

[Sbiker]

Beautiful photos, thanks.

Those look a lot like the armor used in "Kingdom Of Heaven".

Bonsoir, there are different Templiars ( Templiars Knights, Hospices Knights, Teutonics Knights )

initially for that time, we'll talk that over Helms helmets ....

Take into account also for these "styles" or "models" in order question..either Templars or Hospices Teutonic or even the order of Lazarus etc ...

Note also the grade of the holder of the helmet and of course of the years époque..clothes and protections evolved.

For example some names helmets or helmets (I do not currently have all the images to accompany the names).

=> Bascinet
=> Headphones salad
=> Headphones and haubert
=> Barbute
=> Conical helmet or helmet Sugarloaf
=> Headset / helmet and nasal Cervelière

en Français :

=> Bacinet
=> Casque salade
=> Casque et haubert
=> Barbute
=> Casque conique ou heaume pain de sucre
=> Casque/heaume cervelière et nasale

Don't some of the helmet designs designate feudal rank as well?

Like your car designates your rank in society now

 

[Picaro]

Like your car designates your rank in society now

In a lot of cases that's true, but there are exceptions; one of the U.S.'s wealthiest men drove a four door Chevy and took a sack lunch to work every day for years, peanut butter sandwiches, H.L. Hunt, and his sons liked to hang out in a bowling alley. lol

I have an old set of books from the late 1960's of a RP game called Chivalry and Sorcery, by the Society for Creative Anachronisms, that has examples of some of those helmets and the ranks they designate, I just don't know enough to believe them or not, as I'm mostly into the economics of the ancient and medieval periods, mostly England's, due to the language and books available, so couldn't tell you a thing about France or the rest of Europe in those eras.

 

[Sbiker]

Like your car designates your rank in society now

In a lot of cases that's true, but there are exceptions; one of the U.S.'s wealthiest men drove a four door Chevy and took a sack lunch to work every day for years, peanut butter sandwiches, H.L. Hunt, and his sons liked to hang out in a bowling alley. lol

So, the same knights could act similar For example, look at Templars. They had good, high quality helmets, but order forbid them to have any decorations and rank-specified things...

 

[Sbiker]

Like your car designates your rank in society now

In a lot of cases that's true, but there are exceptions; one of the U.S.'s wealthiest men drove a four door Chevy and took a sack lunch to work every day for years, peanut butter sandwiches, H.L. Hunt, and his sons liked to hang out in a bowling alley. lol

I have an old set of books from the late 1960's of a RP game called Chivalry and Sorcery, by the Society for Creative Anachronisms, that has examples of some of those helmets and the ranks they designate, I just don't know enough to believe them or not, as I'm mostly into the economics of the ancient and medieval periods, mostly England's, due to the language and books available, so couldn't tell you a thing about France or the rest of Europe in those eras.

It's a big problem with many tasks - how to define, which clothes and armor could be on people, especially accourding to reconstruction. Did the people use something in principle at this time (like sugarloaf in 1307)? Did they use it in region? If the things were finded in different regions - how could they were gathered? (For example, imagine the knight of 12th century with indian tomahawk of 12th century - what's wrong? ))) And could _typical_ people use this thing, or it's just an exception?
Another questions - how thing was found? Do we have images of this thing, dated by our period? Where we found this thing and why? For example, a lot of armors in medieval castles small by size - is it mean, people were smaller in medieval times? Graves says - no, it's just a children armor, not used in battles, only in parade... If we find buried man in clothes - is it typical cloth, or special? (It would be interesting to see future reconstructors of our times by grave finds - in good parade suits and one-time slippers with it, like we dressing deadmen )) A chain-mail hoods from Wisby grave - why we have a lot of finds there? Because it were so popular? Or because soldiers no need more of them and leave them on dead people?
So, defining, how people were look in different times - it's a long process with a lot of questions, disputes, flames and trolls ))

P.S. Economics is also a good tool to investigate medieval times - Marks was right about importance of it, and about its association with society constructions

P.P.S. History - is an awesome topic for an enormous discussions

 

[Dalia]

Fake Templars are a dime a dozen. The real Templars were murdered in the 1300's by the French monarchy and it took another couple of hundred years for the thousand year French monarchy to finally end up on the guillotine.

Yes the Templars were abolished at the cathedral of Vienna France in my region by the king phillippe the bel in 1312

 

[Dalia]

Beautiful photos, thanks.

Those look a lot like the armor used in "Kingdom Of Heaven".

Bonsoir, there are different Templiars ( Templiars Knights, Hospices Knights, Teutonics Knights )

initially for that time, we'll talk that over Helms helmets ....

Take into account also for these "styles" or "models" in order question..either Templars or Hospices Teutonic or even the order of Lazarus etc ...

Note also the grade of the holder of the helmet and of course of the years époque..clothes and protections evolved.

For example some names helmets or helmets (I do not currently have all the images to accompany the names).

=> Bascinet
=> Headphones salad
=> Headphones and haubert
=> Barbute
=> Conical helmet or helmet Sugarloaf
=> Headset / helmet and nasal Cervelière

en Français :

=> Bacinet
=> Casque salade
=> Casque et haubert
=> Barbute
=> Casque conique ou heaume pain de sucre
=> Casque/heaume cervelière et nasale

Most of this helmets, as I know, anachronism for Templars, because they exist till 1307 year. Bascinet - a helmet of XIV century (after 1320), Barbute and Salad - of XV century (Joan of Ark knew more about them l)))... Even Shugarloaf is a "high-tech" for Templars

I see a quantity of mistakes at this photo.... only because I took part at reconstruction of Templars here ))) Instead of all this moments, I very glad to see interest to historic reconstruction in all countries and hope to take part in any big event in future )))

Hello, the résumé that i give is from one of my members of my forum that participed at the reconstitution i know him and others that are a part of those reconstitution that happen every year in my région.
They are historical reconstructions with the objects and the clothes of the time of the Templars but I think that there is not much information on certain details about the Templars if I do not deceive?

 

[Dalia]

Thanks for those. I knew historical recreation societies were big in parts of Europe, but never heard or saw much re France.

Hello, there a lot of différent recreation societies in France like Napoléon , Moyen age, WW2, Far west.

I would definitely do the Napoleonic era thing if I were living there. The 'Far West' thing surprises me, though; it was such a short era, and not at all like the Hollywood nonsense, for Europeans to be interested in. That's kind of funny to me.

Hello, yes the Far West have some reconstitution too and i do have pictures of a reconstitution of the Far West it was for a wedding.

 

[Sbiker]

Beautiful photos, thanks.

Those look a lot like the armor used in "Kingdom Of Heaven".

Bonsoir, there are different Templiars ( Templiars Knights, Hospices Knights, Teutonics Knights )

initially for that time, we'll talk that over Helms helmets ....

Take into account also for these "styles" or "models" in order question..either Templars or Hospices Teutonic or even the order of Lazarus etc ...

Note also the grade of the holder of the helmet and of course of the years époque..clothes and protections evolved.

For example some names helmets or helmets (I do not currently have all the images to accompany the names).

=> Bascinet
=> Headphones salad
=> Headphones and haubert
=> Barbute
=> Conical helmet or helmet Sugarloaf
=> Headset / helmet and nasal Cervelière

en Français :

=> Bacinet
=> Casque salade
=> Casque et haubert
=> Barbute
=> Casque conique ou heaume pain de sucre
=> Casque/heaume cervelière et nasale

Most of this helmets, as I know, anachronism for Templars, because they exist till 1307 year. Bascinet - a helmet of XIV century (after 1320), Barbute and Salad - of XV century (Joan of Ark knew more about them l)))... Even Shugarloaf is a "high-tech" for Templars

I see a quantity of mistakes at this photo.... only because I took part at reconstruction of Templars here ))) Instead of all this moments, I very glad to see interest to historic reconstruction in all countries and hope to take part in any big event in future )))

Hello, the résumé that i give is from one of my members of my forum that participed at the reconstitution i know him and others that are a part of those reconstitution that happen every year in my région.
They are historical reconstructions with the objects and the clothes of the time of the Templars but I think that there is not much information on certain details about the Templars if I do not deceive?

First, send him a big greetings

Yes, we have a few information about Templars time, so it's a root problem of reconstruction. And also we need a lot of research, to analyse manuscripts, statues, finds and other, to reconstruct a typical view of people and define, what was at this time and what wasn't. I took part for a some years in a forum of 13th century reconstruction in Russia (it oriented to European style, because before 1240 Russia was a cultural part of Europe, then were a century of breakdown and then Russia had a big specific in culture). So, if your friends have interest, we can change our opinions and researched staff anywhere in forums. Now I'm not an active participant of live reconstruction, but still interesting of it ))

P.S. Here an example, what we have to use to reconstruct a people view of 13th century ))

 

[Sbiker]

Thanks for those. I knew historical recreation societies were big in parts of Europe, but never heard or saw much re France.

Hello, there a lot of différent recreation societies in France like Napoléon , Moyen age, WW2, Far west.

I would definitely do the Napoleonic era thing if I were living there. The 'Far West' thing surprises me, though; it was such a short era, and not at all like the Hollywood nonsense, for Europeans to be interested in. That's kind of funny to me.

Hello, yes the Far West have some reconstitution too and i do have pictures of a reconstitution of the Far West it was for a wedding.

It seems, sometimes in a some places Far West was also a full of cossacs, and was named as Far East )))))))))