My father asked me to kill him

[Liability]

There is assisted suicide for the terminally ill in the Netherlands. The doctor can't just up and do it, and you can't set it up for other people... only yourself. Do you ever research anything?

And we were discussing the Netherlands WHEN?

 

[Bfgrn]

So what your saying is Olbermann, as well as you, don't want the so called public option. So months of arguing for government health care and specifically using this to argue for it is a lie, because you say you don't want it despite actively arguing and campaigning for it?

You guys are so dishonest it makes me want to puke.

I would love a public option, and so would Keith Olbermann. BUT, a public option is not FREE health insurance. It would be funded by charging customers a premium. It would borrow money through the same institutions as private insurance companies.

AND...NO ONE has a bill up for discussion or vote with a public option.

If you want to learn about dishonest, you really need to educate yourself on the insurance cartels. Find out what medical loss ratio is, find out how Wall Street investors control these cartels and severely punish any insurance company that doesn't continue to find ways to collect high premiums AND deny claims. Find out how back in the early '90s, 95 cents out of every dollar was used by the insurance companies to pay claims. Last year, it was down to just slightly above 80 percent.

Curing your stupidity is not my responsibility...

 

[The T]

keith's wearing his dead sister's teeth.

LOL!

Reference:


[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkJByadebXY&feature=player_embedded"]YouTube - Teeth[/ame]

The sob stories were rife this week to justify the government taking over a huge chunk of the economy that they've already screwed up...and they want more power to do the same?

 

[Liability]

So what your saying is Olbermann, as well as you, don't want the so called public option. So months of arguing for government health care and specifically using this to argue for it is a lie, because you say you don't want it despite actively arguing and campaigning for it?

You guys are so dishonest it makes me want to puke.

I would love a public option, and so would Keith Olbermann. BUT, a public option is not FREE health insurance. It would be funded by charging customers a premium. It would borrow money through the same institutions as private insurance companies.

AND...NO ONE has a bill up for discussion or vote with a public option.

If you want to learn about dishonest, you really need to educate yourself on the insurance cartels. Find out what medical loss ratio is, find out how Wall Street investors control these cartels and severely punish any insurance company that doesn't continue to find ways to collect high premiums AND deny claims. Find out how back in the early '90s, 95 cents out of every dollar was used by the insurance companies to pay claims. Last year, it was down to just slightly above 80 percent.

Curing your stupidity is not my responsibility...

curing your stupidity is impossible.

All the while that you babble incoherently about a public option, you are also discussing aspects of private health insurance.

YOu need (urgently) to stop being such a pant load and to start thinking critically. This means, among other things, that even an idiot like you is going to have to come to terms with unpacking your improperly bundled concepts and notions.

MANY of us already HAVE insurance. MANY of us (the fucking significant MAJORITY) are satisfied with the way in which our health care is delivered.

What the nation is supposedly in urgent need of at this time is the provision to those who cannot obtain it of adeqate health care services.

The obvious resolution does NOT entail AT ALL touching the health care insurance or health care delivery to the majority who alreayd have satisfactory health care. The obvious resolution is to see if it is practical and rational (putting to the side -- at least for the moment -- the question of whether it is Constitutionally appropriate) to provide for the have-nots.

I don't give a rat's ass if YOU want a public option. What idiots like YOU "want" is utterly beside the point.

If you fucking liberoidal assbites ever want to discuss the actual issues, send up a flare. But so far you morons have only proved that your actual agenda is redistribution od wealth. You are far too obvious, plodding and transparent in your efforts, ya bumbling shit-heads.

 

[Bfgrn]

keith's wearing his dead sister's teeth.

LOL!

Reference:


[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkJByadebXY&feature=player_embedded"]YouTube - Teeth[/ame]

The sob stories were rife this week to justify the government taking over a huge chunk of the economy that they've already screwed up...and they want more power to do the same?

You are officially a SCUM BAG... an example of how human turn out when raised by wolves.

 

[007]

Olbermann should leave the media. he is cracking up.

you have to wonder why Pmsnbc keeps him on, he has no ratings.

Because he epitomizes everything the whole network stands for. They're all flaming, frothing at the mouth, bat shit crazy, loony lefties. Hey, you can't even get a job at pmsnbc unless you get tingle up your leg when obama speaks.

 

[Liability]

keith's wearing his dead sister's teeth.

LOL!

Reference:


[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkJByadebXY&feature=player_embedded"]YouTube - Teeth[/ame]

The sob stories were rife this week to justify the government taking over a huge chunk of the economy that they've already screwed up...and they want more power to do the same?

Amazing. And schmucks like Bfgrn lap that bullshit right the fuck up.

"She wore her dead sister's teeth!"

And the Congress-critter then conjoins that dubious story about an alleged constituent with the claim that America has lost it's edge in manufacturing and export. We can reclaim it, but this is the chance to be proactive and do so with a health care bill because those two issues are (obviously) so closely related.

Congress-critter Slaughter couldn't intelligently discuss the massive costs of the Health Care Bills this Administration is seeking, much less factor those costs into the impact it would have on our ability to conduct manufacturing and exporting.

She's very much like Bfgrn: an imbecile hoping to someday be a moron.

 

[Liability]

Olbermann should leave the media. he is cracking up.

you have to wonder why Pmsnbc keeps him on, he has no ratings.

Because he epitomizes everything the whole network stands for. They're all flaming, frothing at the mouth, bat shit crazy, loony lefties. Hey, you can't even get a job at pmsnbc unless you get tingle up your leg when obama speaks.

That massive failure of a network" now even brags about putting "Ed" in its lineup of frothing imbecile left-wing fubars. Ed is in contention to be an even nastier and less intelligent liberoidal propagandist than Keith Uberschmuck.

MSLSD will soon have no ratings at all.

 

[The T]

So what your saying is Olbermann, as well as you, don't want the so called public option. So months of arguing for government health care and specifically using this to argue for it is a lie, because you say you don't want it despite actively arguing and campaigning for it?

You guys are so dishonest it makes me want to puke.

I would love a public option, and so would Keith Olbermann. BUT, a public option is not FREE health insurance. It would be funded by charging customers a premium. It would borrow money through the same institutions as private insurance companies.

AND...NO ONE has a bill up for discussion or vote with a public option.

If you want to learn about dishonest, you really need to educate yourself on the insurance cartels. Find out what medical loss ratio is, find out how Wall Street investors control these cartels and severely punish any insurance company that doesn't continue to find ways to collect high premiums AND deny claims. Find out how back in the early '90s, 95 cents out of every dollar was used by the insurance companies to pay claims. Last year, it was down to just slightly above 80 percent.

Curing your stupidity is not my responsibility...

curing your stupidity is impossible.

All the while that you babble incoherently about a public option, you are also discussing aspects of private health insurance.

YOu need (urgently) to stop being such a pant load and to start thinking critically. This means, among other things, that even an idiot like you is going to have to come to terms with unpacking your improperly bundled concepts and notions.

MANY of us already HAVE insurance. MANY of us (the fucking significant MAJORITY) are satisfied with the way in which our health care is delivered.

What the nation is supposedly in urgent need of at this time is the provision to those who cannot obtain it of adeqate health care services.

The obvious resolution does NOT entail AT ALL touching the health care insurance or health care delivery to the majority who alreayd have satisfactory health care. The obvious resolution is to see if it is practical and rational (putting to the side -- at least for the moment -- the question of whether it is Constitutionally appropriate) to provide for the have-nots.

I don't give a rat's ass if YOU want a public option. What idiots like YOU "want" is utterly beside the point.

If you fucking liberoidal assbites ever want to discuss the actual issues, send up a flare. But so far you morons have only proved that your actual agenda is redistribution od wealth. You are far too obvious, plodding and transparent in your efforts, ya bumbling shit-heads.

And besides? Healthcare is NOT at the top of the list of concerns of MOST Americans right now anyway. It only is in the minds of those that want more control, and why we are treated to the incessant drumbeat by the Statists, and their willing accomplices in the drive-by media at the behest of Obama's race for his ill-fated 'Legacy' at the expense of what really matters to MOST of us.

Good call, Liability.

 

[Stephanie]

Olbermann should leave the media. he is cracking up.

you have to wonder why Pmsnbc keeps him on, he has no ratings.

Because he epitomizes everything the whole network stands for. They're all flaming, frothing at the mouth, bat shit crazy, loony lefties. Hey, you can't even get a job at pmsnbc unless you get tingle up your leg when obama speaks.

yep. just who is funding these shows? you know it's not from advertising, they have NO ratings.
Progressives and George Soros money?, and then they try to tell people they are NOT BIASED.

 

[Contessa_Sharra]

Yeah our health care system is just fine.

Run on that ......please.

Id rather run on policies that, I don't know, actually help the people. Why is that such a foreign concept to you people?

Why on earth should we adopt policies we already know don't work?! What kind of person thinks that somehow since we are doing it that the laws of nature and economics are going to change???

Its the right who did nothing for years to solve this problem and are now fighting any real solutions.

They are the ones who think there is no problem.

Didn't Terri Shaivo's brain get saved by some Pubbie Senator so he could bring it back later when they figure out how to make it work in a petri dish?

 

[Liability]

Id rather run on policies that, I don't know, actually help the people. Why is that such a foreign concept to you people?

Why on earth should we adopt policies we already know don't work?! What kind of person thinks that somehow since we are doing it that the laws of nature and economics are going to change???

Its the right who did nothing for years to solve this problem and are now fighting any real solutions.

They are the ones who think there is no problem.

Didn't Terri Shaivo's brain get saved by some Pubbie Senator so he could bring it back later when they figure out how to make it work in a perti dish?

If we had the ability to reanimate dead brains, schmuck, you'd be way up at the top of the recipient list.

And, what you were trying to grunt out, Nonetoosharpa, was petri dish.

 

[Stephanie]

Id rather run on policies that, I don't know, actually help the people. Why is that such a foreign concept to you people?

Why on earth should we adopt policies we already know don't work?! What kind of person thinks that somehow since we are doing it that the laws of nature and economics are going to change???

Its the right who did nothing for years to solve this problem and are now fighting any real solutions.

They are the ones who think there is no problem.

Didn't Terri Shaivo's brain get saved by some Pubbie Senator so he could bring it back later when they figure out how to make it work in a perti dish?

manure is a smelly job.

 

[Contessa_Sharra]

What Keith didn't mention is that his father wanted to die for having such a douche as a son.

Is that what you learned reading Scriptures?

Better read up on the Woes of the Pharisees...and hell...

No, It's what I've learned by watching pieces of trash use dying family members to further their political causes and carreers.

Let's be completely honest here. Would government health care at all change what's happening to Olbermann's father?

Well, only if his son was too much of a douche to help his father out. It's not like Keith is a poor man. But not only does he make the argument that we, the tax payers, should be taking care of his father, he uses his father to further his career, to make political arguments. All in the name of the compassion he doesnt even have for his own father.

It'd disgusting. No one should treat their father like that. No one should pawn off responsibility of their family to others. Especially when you more than have teh means to take care of them.

What disgusts me even more is you think the poor should take care of this man's family responsibilities. As if it's our fault that his father suffering.

Well guess what. People suffer. It doesnt matter if you are rich or poor. It doesnt matter how much money you spend to try to stop it. You are still going to suffer at least a portion of this life.

Now you can do your part to deal with your own suffering and helping your family and friends deal with theirs. Or you can pretend you are so much better than anyone else because you want other people to take care of yourself and those you claim to love.

I'd want to die if my son ever treated me that way.

"No, It's what I've learned by watching pieces of trash use dying family members to further their political causes and carreers." --- Avatar4321

Like Frist and Bush and the other assholes that weighed in on the Schaivo case?

 

[The T]

keith's wearing his dead sister's teeth.

LOL!

Reference:


[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkJByadebXY&feature=player_embedded"]YouTube - Teeth[/ame]

The sob stories were rife this week to justify the government taking over a huge chunk of the economy that they've already screwed up...and they want more power to do the same?

You are officially a SCUM BAG... an example of how human turn out when raised by wolves.

LOL! And you know this as fact? Present for you... [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKtheZkR8H8"]IDIOT LINK[/ame]

Now that I've had my fun? Ask yourself why all the SOB stories? And of more import? WHY are you so willing to wrest control over something that is YOUR responsibility to the government?

Apparently YOU are a control freak and have no regard for the liberties of others much LESS your own?

I can summize one of two things. You ARE an elitist moron that doesn't care a wit of others' Liberty and a power monger over others, or you're just plain stupid.

If the LINK FITS? Click it my friend.

 

[Bfgrn]

keith's wearing his dead sister's teeth.

LOL!

Reference:


[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkJByadebXY&feature=player_embedded"]YouTube - Teeth[/ame]

The sob stories were rife this week to justify the government taking over a huge chunk of the economy that they've already screwed up...and they want more power to do the same?

Amazing. And schmucks like Bfgrn lap that bullshit right the fuck up.

"She wore her dead sister's teeth!"

And the Congress-critter then conjoins that dubious story about an alleged constituent with the claim that America has lost it's edge in manufacturing and export. We can reclaim it, but this is the chance to be proactive and do so with a health care bill because those two issues are (obviously) so closely related.

Congress-critter Slaughter couldn't intelligently discuss the massive costs of the Health Care Bills this Administration is seeking, much less factor those costs into the impact it would have on our ability to conduct manufacturing and exporting.

She's very much like Bfgrn: an imbecile hoping to someday be a moron.

Liability, you are a disgrace as an American and as a human being.

The Congresswoman's claims were not dubious...Lee Iacocca warned Congress years ago that health care costs to American business' was giving foreign competitors a huge edge.

You fucking scum bags want to destroy America, but the cesspool of SCUM that infests little worms like you manifests in your total disrespect and disregard for the American people, human beings that suffer and die because of right wing corporate cum sucking ideologues devoid of ANY conscience, compassion, empathy or humanity...

 

[Stephanie]

LOL, people are scum for not caring about someone without teeth.?

yet the left constantly post pictures of people without teeth to describe the intelligence of Conservative Republicans.

gawd, being a bleeding heart must be rough. what to do, what to do.

 

[Liability]

* * * *

Liability, you are a disgrace as an American and as a human being.

If your thoughts had any value, that statement would be troubling. But since you are just a fucking scumbag lying sack of liberal shit, your opinion is worthless.

The Congresswoman's claims were not dubious...Lee Iacocca warned Congress years ago that health care costs to American business' was giving foreign competitors a huge edge.

The Congress-woman's claim about the alleged health issue of one of her alleged constituents are indeed dubious. And the fact that Lee Iacocco subscribes to a belief does not make it gospel, you fucking retard.

You fucking scum bags want to destroy America,

Wrong asslicker. I wish to prevent you scumbags FROM destroying America.

but the cesspool of SCUM that infests little worms like you manifests in your total disrespect and disregard for the American people, human beings that suffer and die because of right wing corporate cum sucking ideologues devoid of ANY conscience, compassion, empathy or humanity...

Wrong again, anus-breath. It is instead true that you fucktards are so distorted and wrapped up in your socialist ideology, that ot one of you pieces of shit gives a damn about the People. You fuckbrains don't care at all about personal liberty or anything of value to Americans in terms of freedom. You love just the idea of power -- the power to take and take and take and the power to redistribute the wealth of the industrious working stiffs to those who aren't motivated enough to do for themselves.

Unlike you, ya scumbag douchenozzle, I am desirous of keeping the check on government quite firm. WE can collectively make arrangements through proper channels to care for the less fortunate. We already do that to a very large extent, but reasonable people can agree that other things need to be addressed even so. What some of us DON'T want, however, is your filthy efforts to gain power for the sake of power and to deny to all of us the liberty to keep what we earn and spend it as we see fit. The choice is OURS, not yours. Newsflash: we don't trust vermin like you. Nor should we.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

http://www.usmessageboard.com/healthcare-insurance-govt-healthcare/107097-oberman-life-panels.html

Here is the video

 

[Cold Fusion38]

Allowing assisted suicide is a VERY bad idea. It will morph soon enough into putting the old and sick to death for the convenience of the living or the Government.

You seem to think that people are just going to let their loved ones die for 'convenience'. I'm sure in some cases that might be true, but i'd think it would be the exception rather than the rule. I also think it depends on what you mean by 'convenience'. Not wanting to run errands for a relative anymore is 'convenience'. Not wanting her to have to remain in a vegetative state and on life support is another matter entirely.

When you assign to Doctors the power to legally murder other people eventually you will have Doctors eliminating the ederly and the handicapped and the chronically sick. Ohh they will all be playing lip service to the "assisted" title.

You will have family members deciding that Grandpa is to old and to sick and wouldn't it be better for him to pass on. Alzheimer's patients being in the forefront of that movement. And the badly handicapped a close second.

Human nature is what it is, pretending other wise is foolish indeed. In fact the Lady that was cited extolling the virtues of savings for Obama's Health care plan should be headed in this case, SHE STATED that a 70 percent savings in Health care costs could be accrued if the elderly and the terminally ill could just be convinced to die on their own without medical treatment.

So you think Alzheimer's patients should be FORCED to live while little by little EVERYTHING that makes them a unique individual slips away!!!!??? FUCK YOU I have the RIGHT to decide when and HOW I die not YOU or the GOVERNMENT!!!