My explanation why for the most part Rich are socialists and poor are Capitalists

[pvsi.]

In todays world, in America (as I'm sure in other axis of good nations, but nevermind them) I see most rich as socialist and most poor as capitalists. the media (CNN, FOX, MSNBC etc.) will not explain to you why, but I will:

Rich: in most cases they hijacked national resources: Pharmaceutical industry giants, oil industry giants, communication giants such as verizon who usurped control of tax payer funded, military invented internet and telephone services via satelites paid by tax money (eg. socialism) and so on, and so on.

Poor: in most cases those employed by a socialist system/government are not poor, and therefor have to resort to capitalism for survival. and in a system where more and more money is being squeazed out of economy (which is like blood to an animal) the body of capitalism is freezing up.

I firmly believe in capitalism, as I always have, but to all of you liberals I am not sure how I should get thru to you or if I should even try, you need to snap out of your delusions planted to you by the media, it is poison. your mind is poisoned. let me try to explain one more time:

If the rich would drain American capitalistic system with taxation, there would be a lot more money around, and a lot easier to survive. of course many do not realise this, but our monthly phone bills and energy bills are no different then taxes, and that is what the idiot right does not understand. also, for the same exact reason - because media poisons their minds.

 

[merrill]

Other perfect examples:


Here’s how it happens...

"Free Lunch: How the Wealthiest Americans Enrich Themselves at Government Expense (And Stick You with the Bill)"

UUA: A Voice of Economic Populism

 

[thereisnospoon]

This thread is another in a long line of ridiculous class envy nonsense.
It should be moved to the romper room or closed entirely.

 

[Lakhota]

Socialism for the rich and capitalism for the poor

Socialism for the rich and capitalism for the poor is a classical political-economic argument, stating that in the advanced capitalist societies state policies assure that more resources flow to the rich than to the poor, for example in form of transfer payments. The term corporate welfare is widely used to describe the bestowal of favorable treatment to particular corporations by the government. One of the most commonly raised forms of criticism are statements that the capitalist political economy toward large corporations allows them to "privatize profits and socialize losses."[1] The argument has been raised and cited on many occasions.

The notion that banks privatize profits and socialize losses dates at least to the 19th century, as in this 1834 quote of Andrew Jackson:

I too have been a close observer of the doings of the Bank of the United States. I have had men watching you for a long time and I am convinced that you have used the funds of the bank to speculate in the breadstuffs of the country. When you won, you divided the profits amongst you, and when you lost, you charged it to the Bank. ... You are a den of vipers and thieves.
—Andrew Jackson in 1834 on closing the Second Bank of the United States.[2]​

Socialism for the rich and capitalism for the poor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[whitehall]

How could corporations possibly hijack "national resources"? Only the federal government has jurisdiction over federal resources. The federal government gives permission (or in today's case denies permission) for oil production. The federal government enacts legislation that encompases enormous tracts of land under federal control. The rich (corporations) are governed by buildings full of often contradictory regulations. OSHA regulations would circle the world if placed end to end.. Fannie Mae is an example of the close federal oversight and look what happened. Frank Raines walked away with 90 Million dollars for three years work by cooking the books under the noses of the federal regulators. Barney Frank told Americans that Fannie was fine while it was on the brink of collapse under his watch. Reagan was right when he said that the federal government isn't the solution, it's the problem.

 

[occupied]

Capitalism sees stability as a loss, it withers and becomes corrupt in the absence of new markets or resources to exploit, it must manufacture bubbles in order to buy low and sell high. It is rarely visionary and never altruistic. Any benefits bestowed on society by capitalism are purely secondary to the primary aim of wealth accumulation. In any case it is not a faith or a system of government or anything more than just an activity, a verb.

 

[whitehall]

Capitalism sees stability as a loss, it withers and becomes corrupt in the absence of new markets or resources to exploit, it must manufacture bubbles in order to buy low and sell high. It is rarely visionary and never altruistic. Any benefits bestowed on society by capitalism are purely secondary to the primary aim of wealth accumulation. In any case it is not a faith or a system of government or anything more than just an activity, a verb.

You got it bas-ackward occupado. Democrats see stability as a loss. Every pension system both public and private is invested in Wall Street. How is Social Security doing? The last thing the "rich" (corporations) want is instability. Look at the DOW when an international incident happens. The DOW goes down. Why do you think democrats have consistantly voted against American oil production while kissing the asses of every two-bit dictators like Hugo Chavez? Democrats thrive on instability and chaos and suffering.

 

[occupied]

Capitalism sees stability as a loss, it withers and becomes corrupt in the absence of new markets or resources to exploit, it must manufacture bubbles in order to buy low and sell high. It is rarely visionary and never altruistic. Any benefits bestowed on society by capitalism are purely secondary to the primary aim of wealth accumulation. In any case it is not a faith or a system of government or anything more than just an activity, a verb.

You got it bas-ackward occupado. Democrats see stability as a loss. Every pension system both public and private is invested in Wall Street. How is Social Security doing? The last thing the "rich" (corporations) want is instability. Look at the DOW when an international incident happens. The DOW goes down. Why do you think democrats have consistantly voted against American oil production while kissing the asses of every two-bit dictators like Hugo Chavez? Democrats thrive on instability and chaos and suffering.

Now that you are done beating up on democrats maybe you can tell me how anything I said was inaccurate remembering that nothing I said touches on partisan politics in any way.

 

[hortysir]

Pharmaceuticals and communications are "natural resources"?

Who knew?

 

[Lakhota]

How could corporations possibly hijack "national resources"?

Best chuckle of the day. Thank you.

 

[whitehall]

The short answer is that the definition of socialism is government control of the production of goods and services. The absolute last thing the "rich" (corporations) want is government control of the production of goods and services with the possible exception of phony greenie corporations like Solyndra that can't make a profit on their own.

 

[Charles_Main]

In todays world, in America (as I'm sure in other axis of good nations, but nevermind them) I see most rich as socialist and most poor as capitalists. the media (CNN, FOX, MSNBC etc.) will not explain to you why, but I will:

Rich: in most cases they hijacked national resources: Pharmaceutical industry giants, oil industry giants, communication giants such as verizon who usurped control of tax payer funded, military invented internet and telephone services via satelites paid by tax money (eg. socialism) and so on, and so on.

Poor: in most cases those employed by a socialist system/government are not poor, and therefor have to resort to capitalism for survival. and in a system where more and more money is being squeazed out of economy (which is like blood to an animal) the body of capitalism is freezing up.

I firmly believe in capitalism, as I always have, but to all of you liberals I am not sure how I should get thru to you or if I should even try, you need to snap out of your delusions planted to you by the media, it is poison. your mind is poisoned. let me try to explain one more time:

If the rich would drain American capitalistic system with taxation, there would be a lot more money around, and a lot easier to survive. of course many do not realise this, but our monthly phone bills and energy bills are no different then taxes, and that is what the idiot right does not understand. also, for the same exact reason - because media poisons their minds.

My explanation as to why so many people are as fucking Stupid as the OP of this thread.


Public Education.

 

[jillian]

In todays world, in America (as I'm sure in other axis of good nations, but nevermind them) I see most rich as socialist and most poor as capitalists. the media (CNN, FOX, MSNBC etc.) will not explain to you why, but I will:

Rich: in most cases they hijacked national resources: Pharmaceutical industry giants, oil industry giants, communication giants such as verizon who usurped control of tax payer funded, military invented internet and telephone services via satelites paid by tax money (eg. socialism) and so on, and so on.

Poor: in most cases those employed by a socialist system/government are not poor, and therefor have to resort to capitalism for survival. and in a system where more and more money is being squeazed out of economy (which is like blood to an animal) the body of capitalism is freezing up.

I firmly believe in capitalism, as I always have, but to all of you liberals I am not sure how I should get thru to you or if I should even try, you need to snap out of your delusions planted to you by the media, it is poison. your mind is poisoned. let me try to explain one more time:

If the rich would drain American capitalistic system with taxation, there would be a lot more money around, and a lot easier to survive. of course many do not realise this, but our monthly phone bills and energy bills are no different then taxes, and that is what the idiot right does not understand. also, for the same exact reason - because media poisons their minds.

what are you babbling about?

 

[occupied]

The short answer is that the definition of socialism is government control of the production of goods and services. The absolute last thing the "rich" (corporations) want is government control of the production of goods and services with the possible exception of phony greenie corporations like Solyndra that can't make a profit on their own.

By that definition every single defense contractor is a phony, Maybe they could sell stealth fighters to individuals and corporations?

 

[thereisnospoon]

The short answer is that the definition of socialism is government control of the production of goods and services. The absolute last thing the "rich" (corporations) want is government control of the production of goods and services with the possible exception of phony greenie corporations like Solyndra that can't make a profit on their own.

By that definition every single defense contractor is a phony, Maybe they could sell stealth fighters to individuals and corporations?

Incorrect...Defense contractors sell more product to other countries than the US.
The perception that US Based arms and aircraft manufacturers sell only to the US Government is false.
Once again, your reach for the "government is everything and my savior" is an air ball.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Pharmaceuticals and communications are "natural resources"?

Who knew?

I bet half the libs on this board think the Mt Rushmore Monument is one of America's greatest natural wonders. Maybe more than half.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Capitalism sees stability as a loss, it withers and becomes corrupt in the absence of new markets or resources to exploit, it must manufacture bubbles in order to buy low and sell high. It is rarely visionary and never altruistic. Any benefits bestowed on society by capitalism are purely secondary to the primary aim of wealth accumulation. In any case it is not a faith or a system of government or anything more than just an activity, a verb.

You got it bas-ackward occupado. Democrats see stability as a loss. Every pension system both public and private is invested in Wall Street. How is Social Security doing? The last thing the "rich" (corporations) want is instability. Look at the DOW when an international incident happens. The DOW goes down. Why do you think democrats have consistantly voted against American oil production while kissing the asses of every two-bit dictators like Hugo Chavez? Democrats thrive on instability and chaos and suffering.

Now that you are done beating up on democrats maybe you can tell me how anything I said was inaccurate remembering that nothing I said touches on partisan politics in any way.

So instead of getting in the battle you retreat to a neutral corner. Typical lib bullshit.

 

[hortysir]

Pharmaceuticals and communications are "natural resources"?

Who knew?

I bet half the libs on this board think the Mt Rushmore Monument is one of America's greatest natural wonders. Maybe more than half.

S. Dakota interstates have been backed up for weeks with dump trucks hauling coal to add Obama to the Mount