Mutant Seafood in the Gulf

[rdean]

Oh, it's just more scientists lying. Ask the Republicans. They'll tell you.

 

[dilloduck]

Will BP pull a Monsanto on us and get a patent on all the mutant food ?

 

[Big Black Dog]

17 pound shrimp?

 

[dilloduck]

This could end up better than we thought !

 

[Ernie S.]

So the come on back the water and everything is fine tourism commericals I have seen are not propaganda?

Gulf Shores was a mad house for spring break! Hotels were full, the beaches clean, employment in southern Alabama is up, real estate prices are up a bit.
No. It's not propaganda. The Gulf is BACK!

 

[whitehall]

Any reasonable person who is not filled with hatred for America probably realizes that volcanoes pump noxious deadly stuff into the sea every day. Ships lost in WW2 dumped billions of gallons of oil and toxic waste into the ocean and the city of Boston among other large coastal cities pumped billions of tons of human waste into the ocean. It seams the sea recovered just fine. Too bad hate filled liberals don't recover as well.

 

[saveliberty]

I would think more deformities were parasite based than chemical.

 

[Old Rocks]

Environmental Health Perspectives: Seafood Contamination after the BP Gulf Oil Spill and Risks to Vulnerable Populations: A Critique of the FDA Risk Assessment

Seafood Contamination after the BP Gulf Oil Spill and Risks to Vulnerable Populations: A Critique of the FDA Risk Assessment

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Abstract
Objectives
Discussion
Conclusions
Supplemental Material
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Miriam Rotkin-Ellman1, Karen K. Wong2, Gina M. Solomon1,2

1 Natural Resources Defense Council, San Francisco, California, USA, 2 Department of Medicine, University of California San Francisco, San Francisco, California, USA


Abstract Top
Background: The BP oil spill of 2010 resulted in contamination of one of the most productive fisheries in the United States by polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs). PAHs, which can accumulate in seafood, are known carcinogens and developmental toxicants. In response to the oil spill, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) developed risk criteria and established thresholds for allowable levels [levels of concern (LOCs)] of PAH contaminants in Gulf Coast seafood.

Objectives: We evaluated the degree to which the FDA’s risk criteria adequately protect vulnerable Gulf Coast populations from cancer risk associated with PAHs in seafood.

Discussion: The FDA LOCs significantly underestimate risk from seafood contaminants among sensitive Gulf Coast populations by failing to a) account for the increased vulnerability of the developing fetus and child; b) use appropriate seafood consumption rates; c) include all relevant health end points; and d) incorporate health-protective estimates of exposure duration and acceptable risk. For benzo[a]pyrene and naphthalene, revised LOCs are between two and four orders of magnitude below the level set by the FDA. Comparison of measured levels of PAHs in Gulf seafood with the revised LOCs revealed that up to 53% of Gulf shrimp samples were above LOCs for pregnant women who are high-end seafood consumers.

Conclusions: FDA risk assessment methods should be updated to better reflect current risk assessment practices and to protect vulnerable populations such as pregnant women and children.

 

[Old Rocks]

Any reasonable person who is not filled with hatred for America probably realizes that volcanoes pump noxious deadly stuff into the sea every day. Ships lost in WW2 dumped billions of gallons of oil and toxic waste into the ocean and the city of Boston among other large coastal cities pumped billions of tons of human waste into the ocean. It seams the sea recovered just fine. Too bad hate filled liberals don't recover as well.

You are about a dumbass, Whitey. Volcanos the life in this world has dealt with for billions of years. The contamints we put into the gulf in the dispersants are new to life. And it is not reacting in a good manner to them.

 

[Uncensored2008]

The National Enquirer had the story right under the one about Brittany Spears and her alien love child.

Uh, the National Enquirer has a better over all accuracy rating than the NY Times. They broke the Blue Dress and Edwards stories when the DNC Press was denying them.

I'm just saying....

 

[Old Rocks]

The National Enquirer had the story right under the one about Brittany Spears and her alien love child.

Uh, the National Enquirer has a better over all accuracy rating than the NY Times. They broke the Blue Dress and Edwards stories when the DNC Press was denying them.

I'm just saying....

Just sayin' that I posted a link to a peer reviewed article on this problem.

 

[Uncensored2008]

I think Al Jazeera has dusted off and dragged out of retirement a few 1960's Russian propagandists.

Hey, RDean has to work too....

 

[Uncensored2008]

Gulf Shores was a mad house for spring break! Hotels were full, the beaches clean, employment in southern Alabama is up, real estate prices are up a bit.
No. It's not propaganda. The Gulf is BACK!

Not if Obama and RDean can stop it!

 

[Uncensored2008]

Just sayin' that I posted a link to a peer reviewed article on this problem.

From 2010, right after the spill....

BTW sparky, you claimed that oceans can recover from volcanoes because "they are natural." So crude oil, is that from Venus, or Pluto?

Is it possible that if oil were from Earth, there might be natural seepage into the ocean?

{For example, using satellite remote sensing to map oil slicks, MacDonald et al. (1993) estimated the total seepage in a region of about 23,000 km2 in the Gulf to be about 17,000 tonnes per year.}

Oil in the Sea III: Inputs, Fates, and Effects

Hey sparky, I think they're peer reviewed...

 

[Old Rocks]

Just sayin' that I posted a link to a peer reviewed article on this problem.

From 2010, right after the spill....

BTW sparky, you claimed that oceans can recover from volcanoes because "they are natural." So crude oil, is that from Venus, or Pluto?

Is it possible that if oil were from Earth, there might be natural seepage into the ocean?

{For example, using satellite remote sensing to map oil slicks, MacDonald et al. (1993) estimated the total seepage in a region of about 23,000 km2 in the Gulf to be about 17,000 tonnes per year.}

Oil in the Sea III: Inputs, Fates, and Effects

Hey sparky, I think they're peer reviewed...

Yes, that is peer reviewed. Thank you. However, the dispersants are not natural. And I believe the volume of the blowout, when added to the volume of the natural seepage, has changed the equation as to how much is affected by the oil.


Oil in the Sea III: Inputs, Fates, and Effects

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Natural Seepage of Crude Oil into the Marine Environment
Crude oil spills in the marine environment, if sufficiently large, often lead to serious environmental pollution, but environmental pollution can also be caused by natural seepage of crude oil. This latter case results in environmental contamination. Estimating the amount of natural seepage of crude oil into the marine environment involves broad extrapolations from minimal data. The National Research Council (1975, 1985) has made these kinds of estimates previously, and what follows in an update of this information. Because of the nature of these estimates, they are normally reported to one significant figure (best estimate and range of estimates), except when quoted from cited references. The units used are metric tons (tonnes).

RECENT ESTIMATES OF SEEPS IN THE NORTHERN GULF OF MEXICO
Recent studies have suggested that seepage rates in the Gulf of Mexico are much higher than reported in previous NRC studies (1975, 1985). MacDonald et al., (1996) using submarines and remote sensing have identified at least 63 individual seeps (Fig. 2-11). For example, using satellite remote sensing to map oil slicks, MacDonald et al. (1993) estimated the total seepage in a region of about 23,000 km2 in the Gulf to be about 17,000 tonnes per year. Later, however, MacDonald (1998) conservatively estimated a much lower rate of about 4,000 tonnes per year as a minimum. The difference in these estimates results from the various underlying assumptions that have been used and emphasizes the difficulty in establishing seepage rates. These estimates have now been revised based on SAR and other remote sensing data, compiled by commercial enterprises (Earth Satellite Corporation and Unocal Corporation). With the Earth Satellite data set, Mitchell et al. (1999) estimated oil seepage rates ranging from about 40,000 to 100,000 tonnes per year, with an average rate of 70,000 tonnes per year. This value accounts only for the northern Gulf of Mexico and excludes the Campeche Basin offshore from Mexico, one of the more prolific petroleum basins in the world. Assuming the seep scales are proportional to the surface area, a reasonable seep rate for the entire Gulf is about double the northern Gulf estimate, giving a total Gulf of Mexico seep rate of about 140,000 tonnes per year (ranging from 80,000 to 200,000 tonnes per year).

However, because of the assumptions made during interpretation of the satellite information, a number of uncertainties exist, including:

 

[catzmeow]

It isn't just about oil. It's about the solvents used to clean up the oil.

 

[Douger]

I'm calling bullshit on this

I live on the gulf and half the people I know are shrimpers and fishermen. I think they are closer to the story than Al Jazeera.

Could you elaborate a bit ? What's the consensus among those guys ?
Normal ?Fucked up ? = ?

 

[Uncensored2008]

Yes, that is peer reviewed. Thank you. However, the dispersants are not natural. And I believe the volume of the blowout, when added to the volume of the natural seepage, has changed the equation as to how much is affected by the oil.

Of course it changes it. The blowout was a disaster. But the ocean has the same mechanisms for dissipating crude oil as it does volcanic acids and carbons. The BP spill was magnitudes above normal seepage, and threw the eco system off balance for well over a year. But the major food chains are pretty much restored to normal. The more esoteric systems could take a decade or more to heal. The fact that some corals and other life will take a long time to recover doesn't have any effect on the shrimp and crab industry, which has virtually recovered already. Gulf recovery was aided by the introduction of large amounts of petroleum eating alga. Admittedly, this alga has been somewhat genetically modified, but it's based on naturally occurring alga that feeds on seeping oil. The point being, that the ocean is self-healing in regard to oil spills.

 

[daws101]

Any reasonable person who is not filled with hatred for America probably realizes that volcanoes pump noxious deadly stuff into the sea every day. Ships lost in WW2 dumped billions of gallons of oil and toxic waste into the ocean and the city of Boston among other large coastal cities pumped billions of tons of human waste into the ocean. It seams the sea recovered just fine. Too bad hate filled liberals don't recover as well.

to what level ? most fish, including shell fish come with a warning about what level of chemicals are in them.
It wouild be nice if people did not have to buy them that way.

 

[Uncensored2008]

It isn't just about oil. It's about the solvents used to clean up the oil.

They don't use solvents. They use mostly alga.

HowStuffWorks "How do you clean up an oil spill?"