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    The eco-left are not smart enough to be Decepticons.. THey expect me to be able to save enough grid juice to charge 2 cars by pulling the phone chargers out of the wall when not in use.. CLEARLY -- Decepticons would have a better story..

    Another California tax-payer lefty crusade bites the dust.. Good riddance....
     
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    LOL. Ah well, there were those that cried about the automobile replacing the horse.
     
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    The automobile was a rational and effective replacement for the horse. The EV is neither a rational nor an effective replacement for internal combustion vehicles.

    Here is a report by the EPRI, the research arm of the electric power industry who are wetting their panties in anticipation of this boondogle.

    http://junksciencecom.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/eprievs.pdf

    These guys put the best possible spin on electric vehicles and only managed to debunk the entire line of thinking. What they found:

    If and that is a very large IF 65 million idiots buy electric cars by 2030 the total gasoline savings would be about 7 billion gallons. Last year, however, Americans alone burned about 378 million gallons of gas per day. That means that if they managed to put 65 million of those vehicles on the road, they would only save about 5% of the 2010 gasoline usage in the US alone.

    When you consider the growing world demand for gasoline, savings like that are absolutely meaningless.

    Then they go on to spin the CO2 reduction IF the can put 65 million of these idiot machines on the road. They claim that if they can get 65 million of them on the road by 2030, they will reduce atmospheric CO2 by 90 million tons a year. 90 million tons. Really? That amounts to about 1.2% of the US "greenhouse gas" emissions and a whopping 0.003% of the current "greenhouse" emissions worldwide. 0.003%. Another meaningless number.

    At the current rate of 7,500 dollars each in tax credits, it will only cost 48 billion dollars to achieve nothing. Good thinking greens.
     
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    I do not believe that electric cars, hydrogen fuel, or ethanol are solutions to our energy problem.

    I think they are ALL welfare for insider corporations.

    And yes, I agree that these are mostly the pet insiders of the DEMS.

    Ethanol was, however, a Republicans' pet project.

    Bobbie DOLE, former republican senator, was Ethanol's most famous and most frequently seen on TV spokeman.
     
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    You can't be a fan of electric cars and simultaneously push for Negawatt convservation on the grid as your primary "energy policy".

    Unless HUGE amounts of energy are ADDED to the grid -- making electricity plentiful and cheap --- the eco-left is being moronic and deceitful... And we know they want energy on the grid to be rare and expensive..
     

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