Must invade Iran NOW!

[Annie]

It is---thank God no one has.

It's a matter of days now, perhaps hours.

 

[dilloduck]

It's a matter of days now, perhaps hours.

 

[dilloduck]

Btw--has anyone notified the liberals that diplomacy regarding Iran has been ongoing for sometime now and has included countries in Europe and Asia? What allies we have left are being consulted and ALL of the world powers are aware of our feelings regarding this matter. I'd just hate for them to miss it.

 

[Annie]

Opinion only or the link would have been there.

 

[manu1959]

Do you guys really think that we are capable of waging another war in the Middle East? Are we really capable of dealing with another country that we'd have to take over after an invasion? Where is this money coming from? On top of us having our resources drained, we will be igniting more hatred from the Islamic fundamentalist community, which will leave us even more vulnerable to attack on our home soil. The war on terror is not just against Iran and Iraq-- it's against an ideology. There is no one face to it; taking out Iran is not the solution.

Also, why is it okay for us to have nuclear weapons? That's kind of hyppocritical and weakens our credibility in the global community.

I'm not saying that we should let him blow anyone off the planet, but a little bit of talking can't hurt...

yes, no, future taxes. how do you be more hated? is there a scale? what is the solution? have we promised to wipe a country off the face of the earth once we have nucular weapons? why do we need credibility with the global comunity? how long would you like to talk with them? what would you say? what would be acceptable actions on thier part to assure you that when the complete their nuke rocket program they won't nuke israel?

 

[manu1959]

No--we are the ONLY country who had them and has used them--so far.

i forget....were we not at war then? i seem to recall being attcked first?

 

[dilloduck]

i forget....were we not at war then? i seem to recall being attcked first?

Ya we were--they attacked us at Pearl Harbor etc. remember? They wanted to become a world power and we embargoed the hell out their oil supply so they pre-emptively tried to take us out. They lost because we pulled together a bunch of people to make nukes and we used em.
So in fact--yes--we are the only country that has used them so far and anyone who thinks nuclear war is survivable needs to read more.

 

[liberalogic]

The gun control comparison is interesting and I think that's a shrewd observation-- and yes, I do support gun control; I support it on the grounds that if you are an American citizen, you can only have a gun if you demonstrate that you will use it appropriately.

In my comparison to Iran, though, I was just trying to show that having the bomb and then telling others not to have it hinders our message...it's like someone eating sweets right in front of you, but then saying you can't have any because they are bad for you. It makes us come across as if we are above the law, which we are not.

And I do think that he is "crazy," but we even with that said, going to war is simply too risky...I know you guys are conservatives and I'll assume Hawks, but to me this is a common sense issue-- we need to exercise EVERY option before military intervention and we cannot go at this alone...we need allies. There's a reason why George H. W. Bush (41) built up a strong coalition for Desert Storm-- because he knew it was too risky to do it alone...obviously, his son didn't inherit the common sense gene.

 

[Annie]

Ya we were--they attacked us at Pearl Harbor etc. remember? They wanted to become a world power and we embargoed the hell out their oil supply so they pre-emptively tried to take us out. They lost because we pulled together a bunch of people to make nukes and we used em.
So in fact--yes--we are the only country that has used them so far and anyone who thinks nuclear war is survivable needs to read more.

Why did we commit this conspiracy? Why did we choose to make them bomb us?

 

[dilloduck]

Why did we commit this conspiracy? Why did we choose to make them bomb us?

We didn't--we hoped they would just cave in to our desires.

 

[Annie]

We didn't--we hoped they would just cave in to our desires.

Must have been bad intel.

 

[manu1959]

The gun control comparison is interesting and I think that's a shrewd observation-- and yes, I do support gun control; I support it on the grounds that if you are an American citizen, you can only have a gun if you demonstrate that you will use it appropriately.

In my comparison to Iran, though, I was just trying to show that having the bomb and then telling others not to have it hinders our message...it's like someone eating sweets right in front of you, but then saying you can't have any because they are bad for you. It makes us come across as if we are above the law, which we are not.

And I do think that he is "crazy," but we even with that said, going to war is simply too risky...I know you guys are conservatives and I'll assume Hawks, but to me this is a common sense issue-- we need to exercise EVERY option before military intervention and we cannot go at this alone...we need allies. There's a reason why George H. W. Bush (41) built up a strong coalition for Desert Storm-- because he knew it was too risky to do it alone...obviously, his son didn't inherit the common sense gene.

everyone should be allowed to own a gun......you will never be able to decide a test for appropriatness......iran has promissed to wipe israel off the map when the develope nukes....maybe you should apply your appropriateness test to nukes and not let iran have them......the kuwait war was a different animal than the iraq invasion....virtually the same coalition each time....US and Brits did all the fighting both times......your non-sequiter attack on common sense is droll

 

[dilloduck]

Must have been bad intel.

You very well could be right---I guess in the 1930's and 1940's things were tough too and we just followed our best hunch. Good thing we eventually won!

 

[Annie]

You very well could be right---I guess in the 1930's and 1940's things were tough too and we just followed our best hunch. Good thing we eventually won!

Yeah, we got lucky.

 

[dilloduck]

Yeah, we got lucky.

Maybe we'll get lucky with Iran too. Wouldn't that be neat?

 

[manu1959]

Maybe we'll get lucky with Iran too. Wouldn't that be neat?

let iran build their bomb......

someone tell W to give france and germany and china and russia a call and let them know we are sitting this one out.

 

[Annie]

let iran build their bomb......

someone tell W to give france and germany and china and russia a call and let them know we are sitting this one out.

Yep, if only they would hit them first...

 

[dilloduck]

Yep, if only they would hit them first...

Europe can't do anything to stop them and Russia and China don't want to stop them.

 

[manu1959]

Europe can't do anything to stop them and Russia and China don't want to stop them.

agreed.....which is why i said what i said.....israel will take care of it

 

[dilloduck]

agreed.....which is why i said what i said.....israel will take care of it

What do you think the "fallout" will be like for Israel and their US allies ?