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Its a form of marriage. We have friends who had an arranged marriage. They are very happy together and would not have got married if it had not suited them. They were not coerced in any way.Italian mayor under house arrest for helping migrants
A mayor in Italy has been put under house arrest for allegedly helping illegal migrants.
Domenico Lucano was placed under home confinement in the early hours of Tuesday morning, prosecutors said.
The 60-year-old is the mayor of Riace, a town in southern Italy's poor Calabria region.
A statement said Mr Lucano had organised arranged marriages with "particular ruthlessness" between locals and immigrant women, and had set up "simple yet efficient" systems aimed at bypassing rules for migrants to be granted entrance to Italy.
He would have approved of this.
The mayor was breaking the law, and forcing marriages.
And you are upset that he has been sort of arrested?
Where does it say he forced anybody ?
What the hell do you think an arranged marriage is?
It wouldnt have suited me but its not my culture.
Its a form of marriage. We have friends who had an arranged marriage. They are very happy together and would not have got married if it had not suited them. They were not coerced in any way.Italian mayor under house arrest for helping migrants
A mayor in Italy has been put under house arrest for allegedly helping illegal migrants.
Domenico Lucano was placed under home confinement in the early hours of Tuesday morning, prosecutors said.
The 60-year-old is the mayor of Riace, a town in southern Italy's poor Calabria region.
A statement said Mr Lucano had organised arranged marriages with "particular ruthlessness" between locals and immigrant women, and had set up "simple yet efficient" systems aimed at bypassing rules for migrants to be granted entrance to Italy.
He would have approved of this.
The mayor was breaking the law, and forcing marriages.
And you are upset that he has been sort of arrested?
Where does it say he forced anybody ?
What the hell do you think an arranged marriage is?
It wouldnt have suited me but its not my culture.
It probably would do if that were the case. But based on the article it sounds more like a local official who is matching up immigrants and local lonelyhearts. Godd luck to them and good luck to the Mayor who finds himself persecuted by a bunch of right wing loons.Its a form of marriage. We have friends who had an arranged marriage. They are very happy together and would not have got married if it had not suited them. They were not coerced in any way.Italian mayor under house arrest for helping migrants
A mayor in Italy has been put under house arrest for allegedly helping illegal migrants.
Domenico Lucano was placed under home confinement in the early hours of Tuesday morning, prosecutors said.
The 60-year-old is the mayor of Riace, a town in southern Italy's poor Calabria region.
A statement said Mr Lucano had organised arranged marriages with "particular ruthlessness" between locals and immigrant women, and had set up "simple yet efficient" systems aimed at bypassing rules for migrants to be granted entrance to Italy.
He would have approved of this.
The mayor was breaking the law, and forcing marriages.
And you are upset that he has been sort of arrested?
Where does it say he forced anybody ?
What the hell do you think an arranged marriage is?
It wouldnt have suited me but its not my culture.
Arranged marriages by families do have a greater chance of success than marriages based on romantic attraction.
However, marriages arranged by the state ... that doesn't smack you as the slightest bit Orwellian?
Tammy is special.We have friends who had an arranged marriage. They are very happy together and would not have got married if it had not suited them.
Tammy once opined that he had his ingrown toenail successfully treated by the NHS - ergo the NHS is perfect and no one else ever experienced any negatives in the NHS.
Tammy ‘knows’ a happy couple in an arranged marriage, ergo all arranged marriages are fabulous and none of the women (girls) experience any horror whatsoever.
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You do understand, don't you, that Tammy mistook 1984 for an instruction manual rather than a cautionary tale?Its a form of marriage. We have friends who had an arranged marriage. They are very happy together and would not have got married if it had not suited them. They were not coerced in any way.Italian mayor under house arrest for helping migrants
A mayor in Italy has been put under house arrest for allegedly helping illegal migrants.
Domenico Lucano was placed under home confinement in the early hours of Tuesday morning, prosecutors said.
The 60-year-old is the mayor of Riace, a town in southern Italy's poor Calabria region.
A statement said Mr Lucano had organised arranged marriages with "particular ruthlessness" between locals and immigrant women, and had set up "simple yet efficient" systems aimed at bypassing rules for migrants to be granted entrance to Italy.
He would have approved of this.
The mayor was breaking the law, and forcing marriages.
And you are upset that he has been sort of arrested?
Where does it say he forced anybody ?
What the hell do you think an arranged marriage is?
It wouldnt have suited me but its not my culture.
Arranged marriages by families do have a greater chance of success than marriages based on romantic attraction.
However, marriages arranged by the state ... that doesn't smack you as the slightest bit Orwellian?
it sounds more like a local official who is matching up immigrants and local lonelyhearts.
No,you are reading too much into it. When the movie is made Nick Cage will play the lonely mayor and Thandie Newton will play a progressive Doctor who was forced to flee government forces who disapproved of her looking after wounded freedom fighters.it sounds more like a local official who is matching up immigrants and local lonelyhearts.
That is the textbook definition of a state-arranged marriage.
No,you are reading too much into it. When the movie is made Nick Cage will play the lonely mayor and Thandie Newton will play a progressive Doctor who was forced to flee government forces who disapproved of her looking after wounded freedom fighters.it sounds more like a local official who is matching up immigrants and local lonelyhearts.
That is the textbook definition of a state-arranged marriage.
After a certain amount of antipathy they eventually find love and are about to get married before the state jackboots intervene and lock him up.
I wont tell you how it ends because I dont want to spoil it.
You are being melodramatic. He has no power to compel anybody to do anything. He is just the mayor.No,you are reading too much into it. When the movie is made Nick Cage will play the lonely mayor and Thandie Newton will play a progressive Doctor who was forced to flee government forces who disapproved of her looking after wounded freedom fighters.it sounds more like a local official who is matching up immigrants and local lonelyhearts.
That is the textbook definition of a state-arranged marriage.
After a certain amount of antipathy they eventually find love and are about to get married before the state jackboots intervene and lock him up.
I wont tell you how it ends because I dont want to spoil it.
But, we're not talking about a lonely mayor played by an actor with limited drawing power who marries a refugee. We're talking about a mayor who, using the authority of the state, is telling people with whom they should be having intimate relations. He might be doing it for benevolent reasons (all despots believe themselves to be benevolent). He might be doing it help immigrants assimilate. Or, he might be doing it to breed a new race of super soldiers. It doesn't matter.
Regardless of the intentions, it's evil.
You are being melodramatic. He has no power to compel anybody to do anything. He is just the mayor.No,you are reading too much into it. When the movie is made Nick Cage will play the lonely mayor and Thandie Newton will play a progressive Doctor who was forced to flee government forces who disapproved of her looking after wounded freedom fighters.it sounds more like a local official who is matching up immigrants and local lonelyhearts.
That is the textbook definition of a state-arranged marriage.
After a certain amount of antipathy they eventually find love and are about to get married before the state jackboots intervene and lock him up.
I wont tell you how it ends because I dont want to spoil it.
But, we're not talking about a lonely mayor played by an actor with limited drawing power who marries a refugee. We're talking about a mayor who, using the authority of the state, is telling people with whom they should be having intimate relations. He might be doing it for benevolent reasons (all despots believe themselves to be benevolent). He might be doing it help immigrants assimilate. Or, he might be doing it to breed a new race of super soldiers. It doesn't matter.
Regardless of the intentions, it's evil.
Please tell me which of those powers this mayor has.
You are being ridiculous.
He isnt the state,he is a victim of the state.
Please tell me which of those powers this mayor has.
You are being ridiculous.
He isnt the state,he is a victim of the state.
Italian mayor under house arrest for helping migrants
A mayor in Italy has been put under house arrest for allegedly helping illegal migrants.
Domenico Lucano was placed under home confinement in the early hours of Tuesday morning, prosecutors said.
The 60-year-old is the mayor of Riace, a town in southern Italy's poor Calabria region.
A statement said Mr Lucano had organised arranged marriages with "particular ruthlessness" between locals and immigrant women, and had set up "simple yet efficient" systems aimed at bypassing rules for migrants to be granted entrance to Italy.
He would have approved of this.
The mayor was breaking the law, and forcing marriages.
And you are upset that he has been sort of arrested?
Tammy hates women so it’s all good with him.
Please tell me which of those powers this mayor has.
You are being ridiculous.
He isnt the state,he is a victim of the state.[/QUOTE
One of the great, perhaps the greatest, aspect of modern democracy is that state officials who exceed the authority granted to them by the state can be removed from office or even punished for exceeding that authority.
In this case, the mayor abused the powers of his office and will face punishment. The system worked.
Yes, the authority of a mayor is limited, in some cases even ceremonial. But, any authority figure, regardless of their powers, can use that badge of authority to coerce. Imagine if a CEO (I know how much you guys hate them) set a company policy dictating with whom you must be intimate. Obviously any person has the right to quit. But, they're being forced to make a decision, an economic one. 'Will I marry who the company says, or will I give up my livelihood?" How would you feel about that CEO? Would you say he was being persecuted if he were sacked, or worse, because of that policy?
If you accept the concept that the state has a legitimate right to coerce the intimate decisions of your life, then you can't use the argument , "It was just one mayor". You're legitimizing the concept of state-mandated intimacy.
But you have no proof of coercion. You don't have a single complainant.
I wholeheartedly agree with you about being alert to the dangers of state control though.
For example I heard of a country where they arrest parents and take their babies away from them. They then put the infant's in concentration camps and then 'lose' them. That is a great example of abuse of power but it is such an extreme story I doubt that it is true. At least not in a civilised country.
