Muslim Who Won’t Sell Pork Loses Dunkin’ Donuts Franchise

[Luddly Neddite]

As usual, this is divided right down party lines.

When it was catholic pharmacists who didn't want to fill birth control scrips, the right sided with them.

Now that its a Muslim, the right is against him even though the company changed their products AFTER he bought the franchise.

Dunkin Donuts should have to buy him out at fair market price.

 

[Big Fitz]

As usual, this is divided right down party lines.

When it was catholic pharmacists who didn't want to fill birth control scrips, the right sided with them.

Now that its a Muslim, the right is against him even though the company changed their products AFTER he bought the franchise.

Dunkin Donuts should have to buy him out at fair market price.

He should be forced to sell for what he can get if he won't keep brand quality. He's the one refusing to abide by the franchise brand. Happens to hotels all the time. They don't keep up, they 'lose their flag'. Otherwise, he can become another brand or independent.

 

[Ariux]

If his Muslim brothers didn't poke a sleeping giant on September 11, 2001 this probably wouldn't have been a problem.

No probably about it.

 

[hjmick]

Dunkin' Donuts hates Muslims...

 

[Sunni Man]

I found the answer as to why the muslim man lost his franchise.

And the Jewish store doing the exact same thing was allowed to remain open.


"William Rosenberg was born to a Jewish family in Boston. Because of the Great Depression, Rosenberg dropped out of school in eighth grade to work. After World War II, he invented the now-famous stainless steel “canteen trucks” seen on construction sites, and started a food delivery business with just $2500. Realizing that most of his sales were in coffee and donuts, Rosenberg opened Dunkin’ Donuts in 1950. At the time, only 4 flavours of donuts were available. Rosenberg created 52! He became one of the pioneers of franchising, founding the International Franchise Association in 1960. Today, Dunkin’ Donuts has over 9,700 franchises in 37 countries.

» Dunkin Donuts Jew of the Week

 

[Ariux]

When it was catholic pharmacists who didn't want to fill birth control scrips, the right sided with them.

Your shit-filled skull can't distinguish between the rights of the people vs. the power of the government. The Right has been consistent in objecting to the GOVERNMENT dictating to others what they must do.

Dunkin Donuts should have to buy him out at fair market price.

He's had 30 years, or at least 10, to plan for a non-DD business. It's not like the rug was pulled out form under him without notice.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

When it was catholic pharmacists who didn't want to fill birth control scrips, the right sided with them.

Your shit-filled skull can't distinguish between the rights of the people vs. the power of the government. The Right has been consistent in objecting to the GOVERNMENT dictating to others what they must do.

Dunkin Donuts should have to buy him out at fair market price.

He's had 30 years, or at least 10, to plan for a non-DD business. It's not like the rug was pulled out form under him without notice.

So, THIS American has no rights?

What about the catholic pharmacist? You're saying he has rights the Muslim does not.

Thanks for clearing that up.

Like I said, party lines.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

I found the answer as to why the muslim man lost his franchise.

And the Jewish store doing the exact same thing was allowed to remain open.


"William Rosenberg was born to a Jewish family in Boston. Because of the Great Depression, Rosenberg dropped out of school in eighth grade to work. After World War II, he invented the now-famous stainless steel “canteen trucks” seen on construction sites, and started a food delivery business with just $2500. Realizing that most of his sales were in coffee and donuts, Rosenberg opened Dunkin’ Donuts in 1950. At the time, only 4 flavours of donuts were available. Rosenberg created 52! He became one of the pioneers of franchising, founding the International Franchise Association in 1960. Today, Dunkin’ Donuts has over 9,700 franchises in 37 countries.

» Dunkin Donuts Jew of the Week

BINGO!

Stayed tuned for the rw version of Twist and Shout.

 

[Ariux]

What about the catholic pharmacist? You're saying he has rights the Muslim does not.

They both have the same right not to have the government dictating to them what they can and cannot do. You're such a shit-for-brains liberal that the concept of non-of-the-government's-business is meaningless to you.

 

[WorldWatcher]

As usual, this is divided right down party lines.

When it was catholic pharmacists who didn't want to fill birth control scrips, the right sided with them.

Now that its a Muslim, the right is against him even though the company changed their products AFTER he bought the franchise.

Dunkin Donuts should have to buy him out at fair market price.

As a Republican since 1978 let me say...


1. The pharmacist issue is an employee/employer relationship issue and shouldn't be any issue of the government. If the employer (owner of the Pharmacy) says they will stock and dispense birth control prescriptions and the pharmacist doesn't want to dispense them, the owners should be able to discharge the pharmacist for failure to fulfill their essential duties (filling scripts). If on the other hand the employer says they don't have to or if the pharmacist owns the pharmacy, then that is up to them.

2. Secondly, the individual in the story hadn't "bought" the franchise, it was leased under contract. The contract came up for renewal. The individual was free to accept or reject the terms of the contract.



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[manifold]

Once again, fuck this diaper head and the camel he rode in on.

 

[Dr Grump]

Isn't it amazing that the same people who rant about eminent domain blah, blah, and personal rights and freedoms etc etc, suddenly turn the other cheek when the word "muslim" is attached to the name.

Don't get me wrong, I ain't no friend of Islam - it is one of the most distructive, mysoginistic religions in the world - but the hypocrisy here knows no bounds...

 

[bobcollum]

I found the answer as to why the muslim man lost his franchise.

And the Jewish store doing the exact same thing was allowed to remain open.

» Dunkin Donuts Jew of the Week

The Jewish store by all accounts was accommodating most of their customers.

I can see why D&D wouldn't have a problem with that.

Was this the case with the Muslim store owner?

 

[Sallow]

An Arab-American owner of a Chicago-area Dunkin’ Donuts store has to give up his franchise after he lost his long-running legal battle with the restaurant chain over his religious objections to selling pork products.

The company’s lawsuit came two weeks after a federal jury found that the chain did not discriminate against Elkhatib for refusing to renew his franchise agreement because he declined to sell breakfast sandwiches with bacon, ham or sausage.

The dietary restrictions of Elkhatib’s Muslim faith forbid him from eating or handling pork. When he decided to go into the restaurant business, his faith one of the reasons why he invested in Dunkin’ Donuts in 1979. The chain did not introduce breakfast sandwiches until 1984.

For nearly 20 years, Dunkin’ Donuts accommodated his religious beliefs, even providing him signs for his store that said, “No meat products available,” Elkhatib asserted in court documents. But in 2002, the company reversed course and told him it would not renew his franchise agreement if he did not sell its full line of products.

Elkhatib sued the company but because he is not an employee of Dunkin’ Donuts, he could not sue under federal laws banning religious discrimination in the work place. Instead, he invoked a law that bars racial and certain forms of ancestry discrimination in the making of contracts.

A Chicago federal judge rejected Elkhatib’s claim, finding that it was a religious rather than a racial claim. But in 2007 an appellate court allowed the case to go to trial, finding that Dunkin’ Donuts did not consistently apply its rules on franchise holders. In fact, Elkhatib’s lawyer found a Chicago location that did not sell breakfast sandwiches with pork because many of the customers followed Jewish dietary laws that ban the consumption of pork products.

Elkhatib’s franchise agreement expired in April 2008, but Dunkin’ Donuts allowed him to keep operating the store until the end of the trial.

Muslim Who Won’t Sell Pork Loses Dunkin’ Donuts Franchise | Chill Yo Islam Yo

Gotta love it dude.

The right brays on and on about religious "freedom" right up until it's a religion they don't like.

Then it's "Follow the rules, buddy".

 

[Ariux]

"William Rosenberg was born to a Jewish family in Boston. Because of the Great Depression, Rosenberg dropped out of school in eighth grade to work. After World War II, he invented the now-famous stainless steel “canteen trucks” seen on construction sites, and started a food delivery business with just $2500. Realizing that most of his sales were in coffee and donuts, Rosenberg opened Dunkin’ Donuts in 1950. At the time, only 4 flavours of donuts were available. Rosenberg created 52! He became one of the pioneers of franchising, founding the International Franchise Association in 1960. Today, Dunkin’ Donuts has over 9,700 franchises in 37 countries.

» Dunkin Donuts Jew of the Week

And, after these shitheads were going on and on about Christian and Muslim hypocrisy. It's a G-d Damned Jew forcing non-Jews to sell pork, even when it violates the beliefs of a given non-Jew.

 

[NeoTemplar]

When he bought the franchise DD didn't sell pork products.

And for 20 years he has been operating his business without offering bacon or pork sausage products with the blessings of DD corporate office.

Then all at once DD comes along and changes the rules and says that he has to offer pork products.

Doesn't matter what they did or didn't sell then, what matters is what they sell now and whether or not they are losing money because one of their investors refuses to sell a certain product. Doesn't matter who you are, what your religious faith is or your position in the company if your making them lose money their going to give you an ultimatum and then drop you like a rock if they have to in order to get profits back to where they should be.

 

[Zander]

Tough shit. Nobody is forcing this man to eat the pork. He just needs to sell it! It is part of the Franchise agreement that he signed....

The lesson? Read the small print!!

 

[midcan5]

Devils' advocate

In any business the proprietor has the right to decide what sells and doesn't sell. This owner based on his history is entitled to that right.

Where is it written that Dunkin donuts has the right to tell any franchise what they are to sell? Did the contract read sell what we say or out.

As an individual the proprietor runs the store based on precedent and not some new ruling. If rules can change easily any business could come under fire for not strictly adhering to some new arcane rule.

A good faith relationship over this much time should be respected if the owner's decisions do not in any sense reflect badly on the company. This would not.

Two areas intersect in this decision, religious respect and individual freedom, dunkin donuts is saying no Muslim (or other religion with similar traditions) can own a DD thus isolating and discriminating based only on religion. If I am in charge of a business why would I not be free to decide what products I wish to sell provided this decision is visible to all potential customers. Who are his customers. They should be decisive fact.

Even the business name implies one thing, and as a business the goal is sales and not enforcement of new and recent changes. Franchise decisions should be based on issues that critically reflect on DD company and in this case there is no clear reason why an owners decision could not be recognized as correct, in a tolerant society that recognizes differences of fundamental belief.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

As usual, this is divided right down party lines.

When it was catholic pharmacists who didn't want to fill birth control scrips, the right sided with them.

Now that its a Muslim, the right is against him even though the company changed their products AFTER he bought the franchise.

Dunkin Donuts should have to buy him out at fair market price.

He doesn't own Dunkin Donuts. They RENT him their name. With that comes responsibilities. I realize to the left no such word has meaning but to adults it does. he had his day in Court and lost.

 

[Intense]

An Arab-American owner of a Chicago-area Dunkin’ Donuts store has to give up his franchise after he lost his long-running legal battle with the restaurant chain over his religious objections to selling pork products.

The company’s lawsuit came two weeks after a federal jury found that the chain did not discriminate against Elkhatib for refusing to renew his franchise agreement because he declined to sell breakfast sandwiches with bacon, ham or sausage.

The dietary restrictions of Elkhatib’s Muslim faith forbid him from eating or handling pork. When he decided to go into the restaurant business, his faith one of the reasons why he invested in Dunkin’ Donuts in 1979. The chain did not introduce breakfast sandwiches until 1984.

For nearly 20 years, Dunkin’ Donuts accommodated his religious beliefs, even providing him signs for his store that said, “No meat products available,” Elkhatib asserted in court documents. But in 2002, the company reversed course and told him it would not renew his franchise agreement if he did not sell its full line of products.

Elkhatib sued the company but because he is not an employee of Dunkin’ Donuts, he could not sue under federal laws banning religious discrimination in the work place. Instead, he invoked a law that bars racial and certain forms of ancestry discrimination in the making of contracts.

A Chicago federal judge rejected Elkhatib’s claim, finding that it was a religious rather than a racial claim. But in 2007 an appellate court allowed the case to go to trial, finding that Dunkin’ Donuts did not consistently apply its rules on franchise holders. In fact, Elkhatib’s lawyer found a Chicago location that did not sell breakfast sandwiches with pork because many of the customers followed Jewish dietary laws that ban the consumption of pork products.

Elkhatib’s franchise agreement expired in April 2008, but Dunkin’ Donuts allowed him to keep operating the store until the end of the trial.

Muslim Who Won’t Sell Pork Loses Dunkin’ Donuts Franchise | Chill Yo Islam Yo

He will probably do better as an Independent. Baby steps. There are allot of Independents in NYC that do just fine.