Murtha was a unindicted coconspirator in Abscam

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    My how the liberal media ignores facts

    I read this is a Robert Novak piece.

    John Murtha was one of the crooked Congressmen in the Abscam scandel

    You have to look deep in the piece was it is true.

    Murtha is now becoming like Cindy "crackpot" Sheenhan - a total nutcase

    http://www.suntimes.com/output/novak/cst-edt-novak22.html

    New star Murtha is worrying Dems

    June 22, 2006

    BY ROBERT NOVAK SUN-TIMES COLUMNIST

    On NBC's ''Meet the Press'' last Sunday, Rep. John Murtha repeated his call for ''redeploying'' U.S. troops from Iraq with something new -- and disturbing to fellow Democrats. Asked by moderator Tim Russert about sites for redeployment, Murtha replied: ''We can go to Okinawa. . . . We can redeploy there almost instantly.''



    When Russert expressed doubt about ''a timely response'' from Okinawa to meet a Middle East crisis, the 16-term congressman from western Pennsylvania and new national security spokesman for his party stumbled: ''Well, it -- you know, they -- when I say Okinawa, I, I'm saying troops in Okinawa. When I say a timely response, you know, our fighters can fly from Okinawa very quickly.''

    In fact, a Pentagon spokesman says it would take ''under a month'' to prepare and send a 4,500-man Marine Expeditionary Force 6,000 nautical miles from Okinawa to Bahrain and then 600 more miles to Baghdad.

    Murtha's Okinawa answer embarrassed Democratic House members who would not dream of criticizing publicly the former back-room pol who became an icon to the party's antiwar base last November by calling for an immediate troop withdrawal. His performance on ''Meet the Press'' reinforced dismay inside the party that Murtha, at age 74, has announced his candidacy for majority leader if the Democrats regain control of the House.

    Murtha proves there are second acts in American politics. I had forgotten that federal prosecutors designated him an unindicted co-conspirator in the Abscam investigation 26 years ago. I was reminded of it after Murtha became a candidate for majority leader, not by a Republican hit man but a Democratic former colleague in the House. In a long political career, Murtha has made bitter enemies inside his party who are alarmed by his new stature.

    Murtha got into politics in 1968 as a 36-year-old highly decorated Marine and in 1974 became the first Vietnam War veteran elected to Congress. In 1980, the FBI named him as one of eight members of Congress videotaped being offered bribes by a phony Arab sheik.

    The other seven targets took cash and were convicted in federal court. The videotape showed Murtha declining to take cash but expressing interest in further negotiations, while bragging about his political influence. Murtha testified against the popular Rep. Frank Thompson, which created lifelong enemies in the Democratic cloakroom. The House Ethics Committee exonerated Murtha of misconduct charges by a largely party-line vote, after which the committee's special counsel resigned in protest.

    That salvaged Murtha's political career but limited his public exposure. The current Almanac of American Politics says: ''He speaks for attribution to few national or local reporters, hardly ever appears on television and rarely speaks in the House chamber.'' That reticence has disappeared the last seven months.

    Murtha now wears his heroic combat record like a suit of armor. In recent House debate over the Iraq war resolution, Murtha dominated the Democratic side -- compensating for a lack of articulation with vehemence. Rep. Louie Gohmert, a freshman Republican from Texas, had the temerity to suggest that had Murtha ''prevailed after the bloodbaths in Normandy and in the Pacific . . . we would be here speaking Japanese or German.'' Murtha pounced on Gohmert, asking whether he had been a combat soldier. The Republican had not, and he meekly thanked Murtha for ''all that he has done with the wounded.''

    Murtha disqualifies adversaries who have not tasted combat, which includes the vast majority in the Congress. He repeats the comparison between civilian officials in ''air-conditioned chambers'' and soldiers carrying ''70 pounds every day facing IEDs.'' On ''Meet the Press,'' Murtha referred to presidential adviser Karl Rove ''sitting in his air conditioned office with his big, fat backside, saying, 'Stay the course!'''

    The transfer of Murtha's tough-guy rhetoric from the back row of the hall of the House of Representatives to national television may not be what Democrats want communicating their side of the Iraq debate. It is why Murtha's candidacy for majority leader is cause for concern among serious Democrats.


    Plus Rush did this on his radio show. Very telling about Motor Mouth Murtha


    RUSH: All right, thanks to the archives at the Cybercast News Service, we have -- and this just runs 13 seconds -- audio of Jack Murtha being offered cash, bribes, during the Abscam sting. He turned this down at first but then says later, "I'm not interested -- at this point." He was an unindicted coconspirator! The only reason I bring this up is because anybody could have gone back and found this. Robert Novak did. Murtha is held up in the Drive-By Media as an angel. He's a god. He's a paragon of virtue. He's infallible! He says, "We should get out of Iraq. We're losing. We can't win!"

    Meanwhile, people like Hookstra and Santorum and others are considered kooks. "They still believe this weapons of mass destruction stuff!" So we're just trying to establish for you here that the Drive-By Media and the Democrats will overlook their own conspirators, their own unindicted coconspirators, overlook their own corruption in order to fulfill the notion of their own template. Here is the Abscam-related meeting involving John Murtha showing the rejection of the offered bribe was less than definite.

    UNDERCOVER FBI AGENT: I went out and I got this the fifty thousand, okay? From what you're telling me, okay? You're telling me that that's not what you -- you know, that that's not --

    MURTHA: I'm not interested. I'm sorry.

    UNDERCOVER FBI AGENT: Okay.

    MURTHA: At this point.

    RUSH: "At this point."

    "I'm not interested -- at this point."

    So he was "unindicted," but nevertheless a "co-conspirator." That is Jack Murtha, who is being held up, as I say, as a paragon of virtue by the Drive-By Media. He's starting to embarrass the Democratic Party as John Kerry has embarrassed the party.


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    Nice find, RSR. The left's hypocrisy never ceases to amaze, does it?
     
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    I am mearly reporting what Novack and Rush have reported. They did the work.

    Of course now the libs have another reason to hate Rush and Novack
     
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    Murtha has been on so many talk shows and not one "journalist" has asked him about his involvement in ABSCAM

    I wonder what the libs have to say about this?

    Am I attacking a "war hero"?
     
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    Maybe Murtha should have stuck to "war" instead of going into politics...he was apparently better at it.
     
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    Murtha has stuck to war. He has joined the rest of the libs in their war on Pres Bush
     
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    More empty rhetoric from the rabid right...
     
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    Translation: How dare we point out facts about Murtha's past!
     
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    So Grump are you suggesting there is no hypocrisy involved and that fact reporting is "rhetoric"?

    If you are than I think I have a new candidate for stupidest fucking poster going.
     
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    Remember what Ann Coulter pointed out in "Godless"

    Libs use human shields. People you cannt critize no matter how many stupid things they say

    If you do - you are a bigot, a racist, a sexist, meanspirited, a chickenhawk, ect,ect,ect

    Grump is defending one of those human shields and ignoring his corrupt past
     

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