Murder rate drops as Gun sales soar.

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    Table 1--Preliminary Annual UCR

    Since the end of the So called assault weapon ban murder rates have dropped steadily each year. Since 2008 as gun sales soared the murder rate dropped almost 10 percent.

    According to the gun grabbers more guns equals more crime. Seems they need to explain that to the FBI as it compiles factual data on what is and is not happening in this Country crime wise.
     
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    Good Post

    It does not take a rocket scientist to figure out that if Honest Citizens are well Armed, criminals will think twice about attacking, robbing, etc.
     
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    Nice attempt at a correlation

    Can you prove any connection between the two?

    Can you show statistics of guns being used to prevent murders?
    Can you show that improved police strategies, crackdowns on gangs and socioeconomic factors have not had more impact?
    Can you explain why we still have five times the murder rate of countries that don't have open gun ownership?
     
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    Can you prove that guns cause any of that?
     
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    +1 Yep.. Shoot To Kill Every Time!:cool:
     
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    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzFWRPiNXOI]YouTube - Archie Bunker: Guns vs Pushed out of Windows[/ame]
     
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    Quote Archie Bunker. Yeah, that makes sense.
     
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    It does.. as a matter of fact...

    Murder is murder, and murder rate is murder rate... whether guns or cars or knives or wood chippers or poison or toothpicks are used is of no consequence

    It is not the purchase of guns by law abiding people in a legal manner that has our murder rate high.... it is the criminal, who will obtain the weaponry anyway... An armed citizenry obeying the law with their weaponry is not going to make crime or murder increase
     
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    Another case of conservative cherry picking. Crime rates of all kinds have been declining since 1991

    "The year 2005 was overall the safest year in the past thirty years. The recent overall decrease has reflected upon all significant types of crime, with all violent and property crimes having decreased and reached an all-time low. The homicide rate in particular has decreased over 42% between its record high point in 1991 and 2005.

    Recently, however, the homicide rate has stagnated.[7] While the homicide rate decreased continuously between 1991 and 2000 from 9.8 homicides per 100,000 persons to 5.5 per 100,000, it has remained level through 2005.

    Despite the recent stagnation of the homicide rate, however, property and violent crimes overall have continued to decrease, though at a considerably slower pace than in the 1990s.[7] Overall, the crime rate in the U.S. was the same in 2004 as in 1969, with the homicide rate being roughly the same as in 1966. Violent crime overall, however, is still at the same level as in 1974, despite having decreased steadily since 1991.[8]"


    Basically, you've got it bass ackwards. Crime didn't fall after people bought guns. Crime fell (steadily since 1991) and *then* people bought guns. The explosion in gun sales came AFTER the decrease in crime, not before.
     
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    You are the one making the assertion that putting more assault rifles on the street has caused a drop in the murder rate........burden of proof is on you.

    Now if you want me to hijack your thread and start posting data comparing the US murder rate to that of countries without open gun ownership, I will be happy to do so
     

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