Mukasey won't weigh in on waterboarding

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    There you have it. Not even in the inventory. So just what the Hell has all the whining been about?
     
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    C'mon, Gunny, if it isn't "in the inventory", why did the CIA destroy tapes of it doing exactly that?

    What do we have, memories that last for like 30 seconds?
     
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    You mean tapes from 2002? Last I checked that was 2 elections ago. And back then was NOT an issue or asked to be determined to be torture.

    Further while the TAPES were destroyed, detailed written logs of exactly what went on, what techniques were used, who was involved and what was done asked and answered WERE kept.

    Further the implication that the CIA would do anything for this President flys in the face of the facts present since at least 2004. The Agency tried to influence, illegally, a national Presidential election. They have continued since then, rank and file, openly fighting with this President and his administration. Now as I recall the tapes were destroyed in 2005? WITHOUT approval or even a request sent to the White House.
     
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    however it speaks to creditability



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    OK I'm pretty sure your not really this stupid...so this is now willful ignorance


    bush is a TV character a puppet it wasnt done for him


    do you have links for this !!??.. so what your saying is the CIA is involved in a conspiracy rankandfile that operates covertly and illegally outside the control of the president...iinteresting... and to what end..who do they really work for ? on who's behalf do they do this ?..can we trust any of them ?
     
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    It depends. One side of the coin apparaently has elephant memories when it comes to Republican administrations and 30 second memories when it comes to Democrat ones.

    When Bill gets brought up as a comparison to the current administration since he IS the last Dem to hold office the response is ALWAYS "What's he got to do with this? He's not in office now."

    It is not Mukasey's place to define torture. That would be SCOTUS unless otherwise specifically defined by the legislature.

    As far as to why the tapes were destroyed, since no one has stated specifically "why," you only assume the reason. The fact is, they were destroyed against orders and the person or persons destroying them should be held accountable.
     
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    He still can't say if Waterboarding is torture unless it was done to him.

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    He tried to say that he couldn't see any way his boss would break the law until Specter (A Republican) reminded him of Bush admitting breaking the FISA law.

    He tried to weasel out of that and suprisingly Specter told him in so many words to piss off.

    As the new AG, I think he is finding out how deeply Bush and Cheney are into violating so many laws of our country. His only out is to stall until Bush leaves office.

    John Dean, on Countdown this evening, stated that compared to what happened in the Nixon Whitehouse, what has happened under Bush's rule is a totally different level.
     
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    Sure thing. Remind us of the Impeachment process and why it is NO ONE in charge will even consider it. Or have you once again forgotten HOW our Government works and that since Jan 2007 the Democrats have been in control of said process?

    I suggest you go reread the oath you took as a commissioned officer.
     
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    Mukasey's job is law enforcement, not interpretting law.
     
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    Mukasey's job should also include honesty and transparency.
     
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    If he doesn't know what the law is, how can he inforce it. Sounds like a little semantics here.

     

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