Mubarak unleashes thugs on peaceful protesters.

[Douger]

You think whoever takes over from Mubarak will leave that American money on the table? I highly doubt it.

No.

But I'd rather see a much more democratic Egypt.

No one should be in power for 30 years. That's nuts.

Take a look at your senate.

 

[Sallow]

You think whoever takes over from Mubarak will leave that American money on the table? I highly doubt it.

No.

But I'd rather see a much more democratic Egypt.

No one should be in power for 30 years. That's nuts.

Take a look at your senate.

I was basically referring to heads of state..not grunts.

But hookay..

 

[georgephillip]

I agree with you there but thats how it is in the region, look how long the leaders of Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Oman etc were in power? Syrias President Bashar Assad took over in 2000 but his dad was President until he died.

Is it coincidental that all the leaders you mentioned as well as the "Jewish Democracy" in Israel were all created by Western powers within the last century?

What the hell? the whole Middle East was carved up by Western powers when coloniasm ended, what are you on about?

When did colonialism end?

 

[High_Gravity]

Is it coincidental that all the leaders you mentioned as well as the "Jewish Democracy" in Israel were all created by Western powers within the last century?

What the hell? the whole Middle East was carved up by Western powers when coloniasm ended, what are you on about?

When did colonialism end?

Uh when they got their independence.

 

[georgephillip]

What the hell? the whole Middle East was carved up by Western powers when coloniasm ended, what are you on about?

When did colonialism end?

Uh when they got their independence.

Do you consider today's Iraqis independent?

Is Mubarak independent of Washington?

 

[High_Gravity]

When did colonialism end?

Uh when they got their independence.

Do you consider today's Iraqis independent?

Is Mubarak independent of Washington?

Iraqis will be truly independent when the US troops leave at the end of the year, Mubarak took a billion a year to help his Military and keep the peace with Israel, whats wrong with that?

 

[P F Tinmore]

"The US government has long corrupted Arab governments by paying rulers installed by the US to represent US/Israeli interests rather than the interest of Arab peoples.

"Arabs put up with American-financed oppression for many years, but now are showing signs of rebellion.

"The murderous American-installed dictator in Tunis was overthrown by people taking to the streets. Rebellion has spread to Egypt and there are also street protests against the US-supported rulers in Yemen and Jordan.

"These uprisings might succeed in ousting puppet rulers, but will the result be anything more than the exchange of a new American puppet ruler for the old?

"Mubarak might go, but whoever takes his place is likely to find himself wearing the same American harness."

The author of this article makes a pretty convincing argument it will be the demise of the US dollar that ultimately decides who goes and who stays in the Middle East.

Mubarak already passed the baton to one of his cronies, intelligence director Omar Suleiman. Mubarak will stay in office until they have the next fake election, and the cronies will stay in power.

Unless the people keep up the heat there will be no change in Egyptian politics.

 

[Sallow]

"The US government has long corrupted Arab governments by paying rulers installed by the US to represent US/Israeli interests rather than the interest of Arab peoples.

"Arabs put up with American-financed oppression for many years, but now are showing signs of rebellion.

"The murderous American-installed dictator in Tunis was overthrown by people taking to the streets. Rebellion has spread to Egypt and there are also street protests against the US-supported rulers in Yemen and Jordan.

"These uprisings might succeed in ousting puppet rulers, but will the result be anything more than the exchange of a new American puppet ruler for the old?

"Mubarak might go, but whoever takes his place is likely to find himself wearing the same American harness."

The author of this article makes a pretty convincing argument it will be the demise of the US dollar that ultimately decides who goes and who stays in the Middle East.

Mubarak already passed the baton to one of his cronies, intelligence director Omar Suleiman. Mubarak will stay in office until they have the next fake election, and the cronies will stay in power.

Unless the people keep up the heat there will be no change in Egyptian politics.

He's probably hoping for the Iranian outcome.

 

[High_Gravity]

"The US government has long corrupted Arab governments by paying rulers installed by the US to represent US/Israeli interests rather than the interest of Arab peoples.

"Arabs put up with American-financed oppression for many years, but now are showing signs of rebellion.

"The murderous American-installed dictator in Tunis was overthrown by people taking to the streets. Rebellion has spread to Egypt and there are also street protests against the US-supported rulers in Yemen and Jordan.

"These uprisings might succeed in ousting puppet rulers, but will the result be anything more than the exchange of a new American puppet ruler for the old?

"Mubarak might go, but whoever takes his place is likely to find himself wearing the same American harness."

The author of this article makes a pretty convincing argument it will be the demise of the US dollar that ultimately decides who goes and who stays in the Middle East.

Mubarak already passed the baton to one of his cronies, intelligence director Omar Suleiman. Mubarak will stay in office until they have the next fake election, and the cronies will stay in power.

Unless the people keep up the heat there will be no change in Egyptian politics.

Who do you have in mind to lead Egypt?

 

[High_Gravity]

LOL Tinmore its easy for you to say the people in Egypt need to stay out in the streets, its not you out there getting your head cracked open with a baton and whipped by a man on horseback!

 

[P F Tinmore]

"The US government has long corrupted Arab governments by paying rulers installed by the US to represent US/Israeli interests rather than the interest of Arab peoples.

"Arabs put up with American-financed oppression for many years, but now are showing signs of rebellion.

"The murderous American-installed dictator in Tunis was overthrown by people taking to the streets. Rebellion has spread to Egypt and there are also street protests against the US-supported rulers in Yemen and Jordan.

"These uprisings might succeed in ousting puppet rulers, but will the result be anything more than the exchange of a new American puppet ruler for the old?

"Mubarak might go, but whoever takes his place is likely to find himself wearing the same American harness."

The author of this article makes a pretty convincing argument it will be the demise of the US dollar that ultimately decides who goes and who stays in the Middle East.

Mubarak already passed the baton to one of his cronies, intelligence director Omar Suleiman. Mubarak will stay in office until they have the next fake election, and the cronies will stay in power.

Unless the people keep up the heat there will be no change in Egyptian politics.

Who do you have in mind to lead Egypt?

Good question. Anyone worth while is in prison, exiled, or dead.

There is an honest, secular democracy movement in Egypt but they do not have the money and influence of the regime or the Islamists.

 

[High_Gravity]

Mubarak already passed the baton to one of his cronies, intelligence director Omar Suleiman. Mubarak will stay in office until they have the next fake election, and the cronies will stay in power.

Unless the people keep up the heat there will be no change in Egyptian politics.

Who do you have in mind to lead Egypt?

Good question. Anyone worth while is in prison, exiled, or dead.

There is an honest, secular democracy movement in Egypt but they do not have the money and influence of the regime or the Islamists.

So until someone is ready is it the best thing to just throw Mubarak out now, and risk the whole thing descending into chaos?

 

[Jackson]

The people have just been told to evacuate the square. Don't know what's going to happen next.

State TV said to "Get out immediately"

 

[P F Tinmore]

Who do you have in mind to lead Egypt?

Good question. Anyone worth while is in prison, exiled, or dead.

There is an honest, secular democracy movement in Egypt but they do not have the money and influence of the regime or the Islamists.

So until someone is ready is it the best thing to just throw Mubarak out now, and risk the whole thing descending into chaos?

That is a problem. The options are a power vacuum or same-o same-o with the current regime.

Maybe someone like ElBaradei can hold things together until the dust settles.

 

[High_Gravity]

Good question. Anyone worth while is in prison, exiled, or dead.

There is an honest, secular democracy movement in Egypt but they do not have the money and influence of the regime or the Islamists.

So until someone is ready is it the best thing to just throw Mubarak out now, and risk the whole thing descending into chaos?

That is a problem. The options are a power vacuum or same-o same-o with the current regime.

Maybe someone like ElBaradei can hold things together until the dust settles.

So Mubarak is just supposed to hand over to the reigns to his rival? how do you know Elbaradei is going to do any better than Mubarak? will Egypt turn into Sweden overnight under his leadership?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Well this is the Middle East, are you really that surprised? Mubarak isn't going to go quietly into the night regardless of what he says.

Is St. Louis in the Middle East?

Kenneth Gladney, 38, a conservative activist from St. Louis, said he was attacked by some of those arrested as he handed out yellow flags with "Don’t tread on me" printed on them. He spoke to the Post-Dispatch from the emergency room at St. John’s Mercy Medical Center, where he said he was awaiting treatment for injuries to his knee, back, elbow, shoulder and face. Gladney, who is black, said one of his attackers, also a black man, used a racial slur against him before the attack.
"It just seems there’s no freedom of speech without being attacked," he said. SEIU Thugs Beat Up Town Hall Protester | Sweetness & Light


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Is it true that the SEIU is employed by Mubarak????

 

[P F Tinmore]

So until someone is ready is it the best thing to just throw Mubarak out now, and risk the whole thing descending into chaos?

That is a problem. The options are a power vacuum or same-o same-o with the current regime.

Maybe someone like ElBaradei can hold things together until the dust settles.

So Mubarak is just supposed to hand over to the reigns to his rival? how do you know Elbaradei is going to do any better than Mubarak? will Egypt turn into Sweden overnight under his leadership?

That would be hard to say. Elbaradei does not seem to be owned by anyone. That is a good start.

 

[High_Gravity]

That is a problem. The options are a power vacuum or same-o same-o with the current regime.

Maybe someone like ElBaradei can hold things together until the dust settles.

So Mubarak is just supposed to hand over to the reigns to his rival? how do you know Elbaradei is going to do any better than Mubarak? will Egypt turn into Sweden overnight under his leadership?

That would be hard to say. Elbaradei does not seem to be owned by anyone. That is a good start.

Doesn't he have ties to Hamas and the Brotherhood?

 

[P F Tinmore]

So Mubarak is just supposed to hand over to the reigns to his rival? how do you know Elbaradei is going to do any better than Mubarak? will Egypt turn into Sweden overnight under his leadership?

That would be hard to say. Elbaradei does not seem to be owned by anyone. That is a good start.

Doesn't he have ties to Hamas and the Brotherhood?

I have heard that rumor. They are not the Taleban, you know.

 

[High_Gravity]

That would be hard to say. Elbaradei does not seem to be owned by anyone. That is a good start.

Doesn't he have ties to Hamas and the Brotherhood?

I have heard that rumor. They are not the Taleban, you know.

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