CDZ Mr. Trump, resign

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Every congressman and senator who thinks Trump is bad for the country whether they are Republican or Democrat should make a three word speech on the floor, "Mr. Trump, resign" for part of the day until he's gone,

Need to be careful they don't overdo it or underdo it.
 
On behalf of President Trump .... he graciously declines to resign.

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Every congressman and senator who thinks Trump is bad for the country whether they are Republican or Democrat should make a three word speech on the floor, "Mr. Trump, resign" for part of the day until he's gone,

Need to be careful they don't overdo it or underdo it.

Why? And what in your mind constitutes "overdoing it?"
 
Trump isn’t the problem; Pence would be as bad, if not worse.

The problem is failed, wrongheaded conservative dogma and a Republican agenda predicated on that failed, wrongheaded dogma.

Getting rid of Trump won’t solve the problem.
 
Every congressman and senator who thinks Trump is bad for the country whether they are Republican or Democrat should make a three word speech on the floor, "Mr. Trump, resign" for part of the day until he's gone,

Need to be careful they don't overdo it or underdo it.


Yeah.....he has had just about the most successful year of any Republican President despite their attempt to sabotage him......now they are all on board after the tax cuts...and are leaning into the actual investigations of the real Russian scandal...hilary...

You don't know what you are talking about.
 
Trump isn’t the problem; Pence would be as bad, if not worse.

The problem is failed, wrongheaded conservative dogma and a Republican agenda predicated on that failed, wrongheaded dogma.

Getting rid of Trump won’t solve the problem.
Getting rid of regressive lying liberals will solve the problem.
 
Trump actually is a Political Superman....defeating the League of Doom, the bushes, the clinton's and the obama's and taking on and defeating the weak, and cowardly Republican alliance......

Nolte: Schizophrenic Media Flails as Trump's Focus and Success Torpedo 'Crazy' Claims

The above is important because that is what Wolff wants to tell us, what he wants us to see; it is the existential message that wafts above all the sensationalist gossip. And by extension, the national media is using this book (written by an author who is not sure he told truth) to undermine Trump by questioning his mental health.

There is just one yuge problem with that message: it in no way corresponds with actual results, with the rubber we have already seen meet the road, to a little thing I like to call … reality.

A mentally unsound man-child overseeing an administration crippled by anarchy will not see a record number of his appellate judges confirmed, will not oversee the successful passage of the most important tax reform in 30 years, will not annihilate ISIS without adding a single boot on the ground.



In just 365 days, Trump has turned around a stagnate economy, exploded the number of manufacturing jobs; seen black and Hispanic unemployment drop to record lows; opened up two oil pipelines (and all kinds of exploration); enjoyed victory after victory in the Supreme Court in pursuit of his immigration priorities; seated a spectacular Supreme Court justice; negotiated a $250 billion trade deal with China; brought North Korea to the negotiating table from a position of strength; expertly managed the recognition of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital; untangled us from stupid deals known as TPP and the Paris climate accord, and a whole lot more.

These are not the achievements of a lunatic as portrayed by an immature and irresponsible media still bitter over losing a presidential election.

While there is no question the Trump White House had some growing pains, what White House doesn’t? Bill Clinton’s first year was by far the worst of the modern era, but the media would have us believe Trump’s was unprecedented. That is absurd. Clinton’s first year was not only chaotic, it was almost a total waste.

Meanwhile, Trump has already cemented a substantial legacy.

Forget that Trump is the man who conquered the Manhattan real estate market (the most coveted on the planet). Forget that Trump managed to remain a pop culture icon for four decades (something only a handful can claim). Forget that the very first time Trump tried politics, he effortlessly rolled over 16 other seasoned GOP candidates to win the Republican nomination; that he vanquished the Bush and Clinton dynasties; that he won the most coveted job in the world (that of the American president); that he accomplished all of this while a partisan media darkened the skies with poisoned arrows aimed at his back…

Forget all that, and look at the undeniable results of the last year — the boxes Trump has checked off, not only with respect to his own promises, but those items found on a yellowed-with-age conservative wish-list (ANWR, repealing the Obamacare mandate, school choice).

Moreover, Trump has turned an entire battleship around to point in his direction, one manned by both Democrats and Republicans, on the issue of immigration.

By far, though, Trump’s greatest accomplishment last year was keeping his eye on the ball. Nixon, Clinton, and Bush 43, all lost their way while dealing with scandal, media frenzies, and investigations. Not Trump. Despite unprecedented distractions, there is no greater testament to his mental stability than his laser-like focus on his political priorities, which is a superhuman feat — quite the opposite of a mentally unstable moron.
 
I sure hope these years end up representing the country's low moment.

Both sides of this equation are ugly and embarrassing.

If a is greater than (>) b and b is greater than (>) c, then a is said to be much greater than (>>) c.
-- Euclid​

I do not agree with that at all. I don't, first of all, because when it comes to the two major parties' devoir and delegated authority for soundly, sagely governing, what we have in the U.S. is not an equation but rather an inequality. Also, whereas prior to January 2017 the ">" or "<" symbols aptly described the inequality of onus and obligation attendant to the two major parties and their adherents, the results of the 2016 produced a situation whereby only ">>" or "<<." The reason that is so is indisputable among rational observers. (There's no telling what irrational observers consider debatable.)

Let a be the delegated authority to legislate (control of Congress).
Let aD and aR be the respective share of that authority held by Democrats and Republicans.​
Let b be the delegated authority to administer the government (control of Presidency).
Let bD and bR be the respective share of that authority held by Democrats and Republicans. (Obviously, the relative shares for this dimension of delegated authority are, at any given moment, 100% and 0%.)​
Let c be the delegated authority to interpret legislation (control of the SCOTUS).
Let cC and cL be the respective share of that authority held by Conservative and Liberal Justices.
Currently,
  • aR >> aD because Republicans control both houses of Congress, and
  • bR >> bD because a Republican is POTUS, and
  • cC > cL because Conservatives have the majority on the Court.
  • aR + bR + cC >> aD + bD + cL.
Because Liberals at the moment have no formal delegated authority in the halls of formal/official power, they have no title to, nor can one credibly impute to them, any measure of the ugliness or chagrin accruing from any policies broached or enacted at this juncture in American politics and governance.
 
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Trump isn’t the problem; Pence would be as bad, if not worse.

The problem is failed, wrongheaded conservative dogma and a Republican agenda predicated on that failed, wrongheaded dogma.

Getting rid of Trump won’t solve the problem.

I agree, the swamp the establishment whatever one wants to call them are using Trump as the vehicle. When they are done then there is no use for him. Let's hope it's time for the next Pres by then because Pence is no good.
 
Every congressman and senator who thinks Trump is bad for the country whether they are Republican or Democrat should make a three word speech on the floor, "Mr. Trump, resign" for part of the day until he's gone,

Need to be careful they don't overdo it or underdo it.
The science is settled.

There's no need for further debate.

It has been a year and the drumbeat continues.
 

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