MR OBAMA...you are the President of the United States - ACT LIKE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[LordBrownTrout]

I never, in my wildest dreams, thought I'd be longing for the Carter days.

 

[Jackson]

It takes a long time for Obama to react to a crisis. He, after all,. has to meet with his advisors, Farrakhan, Rev. Wright and his bombing friend, Billy Ayers. Then they all have to agree and talk with Hillary.

This gives the reaction of him being indecisive when there is arguing between the four. None of them are good compromisers.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

The sooner we stop pretending to be a superpower and stop pretending we give a shit what happens in a shithole like Libya the better off this country will be.

You just can't take it can you.
America doesn't pretend to be a superpower, it should stop pretending it isn't.

 

[The T]

I never, in my wildest dreams, thought I'd be longing for the Carter days.

And that in of itself is scary as Hell, isn't it?

 

[kaz]

I never, in my wildest dreams, thought I'd be longing for the Carter days.

What about Carter was better then Obama? I'm not seeing it.

 

[The T]

I never, in my wildest dreams, thought I'd be longing for the Carter days.

What about Carter was better then Obama? I'm not seeing it.

Actually? I think the comment was offered 'Tongue-In-Cheek'

 

[mnbasketball]

You know what is really sad? Stupid people who think they are smart!

The sad part of all of this is 90% of people who come to these boards are incapable or unwilling to find the truth. They actually think that if they find a stat or an article that puts fourth what they choose to believe, everything else is, falsehoods and unreliable because it doesn't draw the same conclusion that they want to believe.

Very often this can happen to anyone, but most people on this board it's a given that it will happen. Even a square box has four sides and a top and a bottom that are not one in the same even if they look like it.


So what I am saying is search out the answers from the facts and figure out what is the most true, and stop depending on people who have an agenda to give you the information they want you to have. Go out and search places other than those you agree with if you want a more true temperature of what the truth really is.

 

[Yurt]

Jesus Christ!!!
Jimmy Carter was tougher than this!!
While our embarrassingly mighty mouse President consults the U.N. - Libya continues to pound its citizens.
This President simply cannot or will not understand that the entire free world looks to America for leadership.
Mr. Obama - you are not just another leader in the global community...you ARE the leader of the global community. Until America acts - no one does. The U.N. will negotiate and bloviate for months on end - you are the most powerful man on earth - ACT LIKE IT!!
Either get involved or say you are not going to get involved!!! For God's sake you don't say you will back the rebels...and then not do anything to help them!!
You don't tell a dictator that he needs to step down immediately - and then do nothing when he bombs his own people.
You are IT...there is NO ONE ELSE...if you do nothing no one else will either.

For f*cks sake - FRANCE - stepped up to the plate before we did !!!!

We are broke, remember? We can't afford to help the Libyan people, asshole.

really? thats it? quote anyone who said that, asshole

 

[NYcarbineer]

The sooner we stop pretending to be a superpower and stop pretending we give a shit what happens in a shithole like Libya the better off this country will be.

You just can't take it can you.
America doesn't pretend to be a superpower, it should stop pretending it isn't.

We are broke. We have no business policing the world. We have no business meddling in the internal affairs of nations that are of NO interest to us. Our only attachment to superpower status is our ability to blow up the world, which, in reality, makes us about the equivalent of Russia.

Is Russia a superpower?

 

[The T]

He can't...

"Apollobama"

 

[iamwhatiseem]

The sooner we stop pretending to be a superpower and stop pretending we give a shit what happens in a shithole like Libya the better off this country will be.

You just can't take it can you.
America doesn't pretend to be a superpower, it should stop pretending it isn't.

We are broke. We have no business policing the world. We have no business meddling in the internal affairs of nations that are of NO interest to us. Our only attachment to superpower status is our ability to blow up the world, which, in reality, makes us about the equivalent of Russia.

Is Russia a superpower?

Geez people...and this thinking is the product of our education system.
Lord.

 

[NYcarbineer]

That is exactly where, in his mind, the USA belongs. UNDER the UN, without being able to take action on anything without their permission.

Understand Obama's core ideals first, then everything makes perfect sense after. Until then, it makes no sense. It looks like he's just winging it.

But once we understand Obama's core values, then every single thing he does makes sense. He wants United States superpower to be a thing of the past. He wants us on equal footing with France, Norway, China, India, etc, etc, etc, just 1 of the many, not the 1 to lead the many.

What's the vital national interest that the U.S. has in Libya that justifies unilateral pre-emptive military action?

One is oil. Stability in the ME ensures our primary energy source is flowing.
Another is simply a moral one. A murderous dictator should be gotten rid of.

Unfortunately, Rev. Wright and Farrakhan are great friends of Ghaddafi. And you know what they say about apples falling from trees.

So blood for oil is a legitimate action?

btw, everyone seems to forget that Khaffadi was our pal now, since Bush squared things away with him a few years ago.

Remember that? Remember he got out of the nuke business? the terror business? Remember how Bush and his supporters cheered that?

Wha' hoppen!!!!????? LOL you people are comical.

 

[The T]

What's the vital national interest that the U.S. has in Libya that justifies unilateral pre-emptive military action?

One is oil. Stability in the ME ensures our primary energy source is flowing.
Another is simply a moral one. A murderous dictator should be gotten rid of.

Unfortunately, Rev. Wright and Farrakhan are great friends of Ghaddafi. And you know what they say about apples falling from trees.

So blood for oil is a legitimate action?

btw, everyone seems to forget that Khaffadi was our pal now, since Bush squared things away with him a few years ago.

Remember that? Remember he got out of the nuke business? the terror business? Remember how Bush and his supporters cheered that?

Wha' hoppen!!!!????? LOL you people are comical.

Really Carbonated? Where's the OIL from IRAQ?

 

[NYcarbineer]

You just can't take it can you.
America doesn't pretend to be a superpower, it should stop pretending it isn't.

We are broke. We have no business policing the world. We have no business meddling in the internal affairs of nations that are of NO interest to us. Our only attachment to superpower status is our ability to blow up the world, which, in reality, makes us about the equivalent of Russia.

Is Russia a superpower?

Geez people...and this thinking is the product of our education system.
Lord.

So it IS our business to police the world?

yes or no

 

[The T]

We are broke. We have no business policing the world. We have no business meddling in the internal affairs of nations that are of NO interest to us. Our only attachment to superpower status is our ability to blow up the world, which, in reality, makes us about the equivalent of Russia.

Is Russia a superpower?

Geez people...and this thinking is the product of our education system.
Lord.

So it IS our business to police the world?

yes or no

Is it our place to opt for free trade for resources, and OPT for Liberty of opressed peoples?

*Yes-or-No*?

 

[NYcarbineer]

One is oil. Stability in the ME ensures our primary energy source is flowing.
Another is simply a moral one. A murderous dictator should be gotten rid of.

Unfortunately, Rev. Wright and Farrakhan are great friends of Ghaddafi. And you know what they say about apples falling from trees.

So blood for oil is a legitimate action?

btw, everyone seems to forget that Khaffadi was our pal now, since Bush squared things away with him a few years ago.

Remember that? Remember he got out of the nuke business? the terror business? Remember how Bush and his supporters cheered that?

Wha' hoppen!!!!????? LOL you people are comical.

Really Carbonated? Where's the OIL from IRAQ?

Why are you asking me instead of asking the guy who just claimed that's the reason for going to war with Libya?

 

[Sallow]

Well basically today President Obama announced that Libya would be under a no-fly zone and America would aid in the enforcement of that. The United States will be working as part of a coalition to stop the Libyan government from slaughtering it's citizens, much like Clinton did during the Balkan Conflict, an action which infuriated Conservatives.

I find this thread interesting. What exactly is meant by lead? President Bush "led" the United States into an illegal use of force against Iraq which was extremely costly. He led when he mapped an "Axis of Evil" with North Korea, Iraq and Iran...three countries which have little or no dealings with each other and in the case of Iran/Iraq..were in conflict. Should President Obama "lead" by wearing 10 gallon hats and cowboy boots to meetings with heads of state..like President Bush did? Should he lead by climbing into the cockpit of a military plane..stopping an aircraft carrier and stand in front of a "Mission Accomplished" sign?

I like President Obama's pragmatic stewardship of the country. It's adult, measured and commands respect from the world...and disdain from the rednecks.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

I never, in my wildest dreams, thought I'd be longing for the Carter days.

And that in of itself is scary as Hell, isn't it?

Vey scary.

 

[The T]

I never, in my wildest dreams, thought I'd be longing for the Carter days.

And that in of itself is scary as Hell, isn't it?

Vey scary.

*Indeed* my friend.

 

[The T]

So blood for oil is a legitimate action?

btw, everyone seems to forget that Khaffadi was our pal now, since Bush squared things away with him a few years ago.

Remember that? Remember he got out of the nuke business? the terror business? Remember how Bush and his supporters cheered that?

Wha' hoppen!!!!????? LOL you people are comical.

Really Carbonated? Where's the OIL from IRAQ?

Why are you asking me instead of asking the guy who just claimed that's the reason for going to war with Libya?

You mentioned IRAQ and the cries from the left at the time of "blood for oil"...did you not.

Blame, Denial, Minimization, Obfuscation...

Guess where *YOU* fall?