MPAA places Christianity in same category as sex, violence, profanity

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The Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA) is now warning parents of movies which contain a reference to the Christian faith, equating Christianity as being on the same level of sex, violence and profanity when it comes to objectionable material.

The MPAA is controlled by Hollywood moguls known for their bitter opposition to Christianity.

A new family film featuring miracles and a pro-God theme has earned the PG rating because it would offend non-believers. The MPAA refuses to give movies which promote the homosexual lifestyle a similar warning. In other words, MPAA warns parents if a movie has Christianity presented in a positive manner but refuses to warn them if homosexuality is presented in a positive manner.

Facing the Giants is the story of a Christian high school football coach who uses his undying faith to battle the giants of fear and failure. Due to the Christian content, the MPAA rated it PG, placing it in the same offensive category as sex, violence and profanity.

Click Here to read a good Scripps Howard News Service article about this issue.
http://www.shns.com/shns/g_index2.cfm?action=detail&pk=RELIGION-FAITH-06-07-06

The plot includes several prayers being answered, a medical miracle, and a mystic who delivers a message from God. The scene which MPAA found most offensive was a discussion between the football coach and a boy named Matt. The coach says the boy needs to stop bad-mouthing his father and get right with God.

The boy replies: "You really believe in all that honoring God and following Jesus stuff? Well, I ain't trying to be disrespectful, but not everybody believes in that."

The coach responds: "Matt, nobody's forcing anything on you. Following Jesus Christ is the decision that you're going to have to make for yourself. You may not want to accept it, because it will change your life. You will never be the same."

That, says the MPAA, is very objectionable and parents need to be warned.

Go here to tell them this is a BUNCH OF BULL!
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Obviously this is the next step of the radical Left in their overall plan to stomp out Christianity and religion from our society in order to make it ready for the STATE to replace God and family. The Secularist forces will not stop with just "separation of church and state". They will attack Christianity and moral forces in any way they possibly can.

What's next? Banning Christian rock groups while simultaneouly promoting filthy gangsta rap groups?
 
I tend not to be shocked anymore by Hollywood/the left's constant attmepts to marginalize Chritianity, but this one did it to me. This may be the boldest and sickest anti-Christian move yet. When is overwhlemingly Christian America going to say we have had enough?
 
ScreamingEagle said:
Obviously this is the next step of the radical Left in their overall plan to stomp out Christianity and religion from our society in order to make it ready for the STATE to replace God and family. The Secularist forces will not stop with just "separation of church and state". They will attack Christianity and moral forces in any way they possibly can.

What's next? Banning Christian rock groups while simultaneouly promoting filthy gangsta rap groups?

Before making my comment, I must preface by telling you that I think the MPAA decision is stupid. Art should be able to express whatever it wants without feeling pressure to conform.

Now, my comment. I feel that a secular America is exremely important to the success of this democracy. You may or may not know that I am a Christian. As a Catholic, every once in a while I whip out the old rosary and pray. That is my personal choice.

Denouncing secularism is a little strange because if Christianity is allowed, where do you draw the line. Every morning should school start with Christians praying, Santeria's followers burning dead sheep, and a muslim kid kneeling on the floor, all while a few atheists sleep at their desks? It may seem like an absurd scenario, but that is what happens when you start allowing Christianity in public places like school. You can not allow one and forbid the others. Laws and public bodies should be run free of any religion.

If you want your children to live wholesome Christian lives, that is your responsibility. The public world should teach them to be responsible and respectful, but religion and prayer is reserved for private life. School and government are bodies of this world, not the next.

My own 2 cents on the subject. I would be interested in knowing where you think the divide between the secular world and christianity should be.
 
1549 said:
Before making my comment, I must preface by telling you that I think the MPAA decision is stupid. Art should be able to express whatever it wants without feeling pressure to conform.

Now, my comment. I feel that a secular America is exremely important to the success of this democracy. You may or may not know that I am a Christian. As a Catholic, every once in a while I whip out the old rosary and pray. That is my personal choice.

Denouncing secularism is a little strange because if Christianity is allowed, where do you draw the line. Every morning should school start with Christians praying, Santeria's followers burning dead sheep, and a muslim kid kneeling on the floor, all while a few atheists sleep at their desks? It may seem like an absurd scenario, but that is what happens when you start allowing Christianity in public places like school. You can not allow one and forbid the others. Laws and public bodies should be run free of any religion.

If you want your children to live wholesome Christian lives, that is your responsibility. The public world should teach them to be responsible and respectful, but religion and prayer is reserved for private life. School and government are bodies of this world, not the next.

My own 2 cents on the subject. I would be interested in knowing where you think the divide between the secular world and christianity should be.

Do you think people should be warned that a movie has Christian themes?
 
A movie with any remotely gay theme gets an automatic R rating usually. All a PG rating is a flag to parents so that they can screen the movie first. If you are Jewish, you may not want your very young children to see a movie that directly promotes a different religion. But then, it's usually evangelical Christians who whine about movies that promote other religions. If the coach had said, "follow Allah" these same folks would be crying for an "R" rating.

acludem
 
acludem said:
A movie with any remotely gay theme gets an automatic R rating usually. All a PG rating is a flag to parents so that they can screen the movie first. If you are Jewish, you may not want your very young children to see a movie that directly promotes a different religion. But then, it's usually evangelical Christians who whine about movies that promote other religions. If the coach had said, "follow Allah" these same folks would be crying for an "R" rating.

acludem

BS. If gay movies get an R, it's because in order to portray them as Gay, there would be sexual themes. And Christians do not cry for an R rating for other religious themes. You pulled that one out of your hat to try to make an argument.

No surprise that libs would actually argue that this rating idea is a good, one, though. Christianphobia is apparent.
 
Abbey Normal said:
BS. If gay movies get an R, it's because in order to portray them as Gay, there would be sexual themes. And Christians do not cry for an R rating for other religious themes. You pulled that one out of your hat to try to make an argument.

No surprise that libs would actually argue that this rating idea is a good, one, though. Christianphobia is apparent.

Do you or do you not believe that a parent's guidance should be involved when presenting a subject as potentially important as religion to a child?
 
MissileMan said:
Do you or do you not believe that a parent's guidance should be involved when presenting a subject as potentially important as religion to a child?

I understand where you're going with that. Would you then consider all religious commentary in a movie worthy of noting/warning parents, or just Christian commentary?
 
5stringJeff said:
I understand where you're going with that. Would you then consider all religious commentary in a movie worthy of noting/warning parents, or just Christian commentary?

You notice I didn't mention any particular religion right? But to clarify my question, would you or anyone else on this board for that matter, be comfortable with letting your 8-year-old watch Michael Moore's "Introduction to Islam" without :

a) Your permission?
b) Your knowledge?
c) Your assistance in seeing through the BS?
 
I never ceases to amaze me. Do non-religious people have any idea how much religious people in America tolerate what they consider to be immoral?
 
Abbey Normal said:
BS. If gay movies get an R, it's because in order to portray them as Gay, there would be sexual themes. And Christians do not cry for an R rating for other religious themes. You pulled that one out of your hat to try to make an argument.

No surprise that libs would actually argue that this rating idea is a good, one, though. Christianphobia is apparent.

BS...Ellen always had sexual themes? Don't think so.

As for the decision, I think it a stupid one....
 
Dr Grump said:
Actually the radical Christian right do not tolerate....

Actually they do when you compare them to muslims but that's not who I was talking about. I think Christians have done and extremely good job over the years considering the majority they have had.
 
dilloduck said:
Actually they do when you compare them to muslims but that's not who I was talking about. I think Christians have done and extremely good job over the years considering the majority they have had.

Well that depends. There are many types of Christian - the radical right, Catholics, evangelicals, democrats and republicans etc. I don't think you can lump them all together.
 
1549 said:
Before making my comment, I must preface by telling you that I think the MPAA decision is stupid. Art should be able to express whatever it wants without feeling pressure to conform.

Now, my comment. I feel that a secular America is exremely important to the success of this democracy. You may or may not know that I am a Christian. As a Catholic, every once in a while I whip out the old rosary and pray. That is my personal choice.

Denouncing secularism is a little strange because if Christianity is allowed, where do you draw the line. Every morning should school start with Christians praying, Santeria's followers burning dead sheep, and a muslim kid kneeling on the floor, all while a few atheists sleep at their desks? It may seem like an absurd scenario, but that is what happens when you start allowing Christianity in public places like school. You can not allow one and forbid the others. Laws and public bodies should be run free of any religion.

If you want your children to live wholesome Christian lives, that is your responsibility. The public world should teach them to be responsible and respectful, but religion and prayer is reserved for private life. School and government are bodies of this world, not the next.

My own 2 cents on the subject. I would be interested in knowing where you think the divide between the secular world and christianity should be.

The divide only needs to exist in your own self, your own beliefs. As long as the government is not establishing religion you should be just fine even if someone else is expressing his religion next to you in the public square. Their free expression is not going to harm you and your whipping out your rosary is not going to harm anybody either unless you hit them with it. :D

Personally I think the "secular world" should be exposed for the communist and anti-American movement it truly is. I'd like to then watch it fall from popularity and disappear as people finally catch on to the truth. It is the movement that is behind the moral destruction of America through its promotion of pornographic movies and music, all in the name of free expression. Secularism has no morality...except when it comes to Christianity...which it despises. You need to ask why.
 
Dr Grump said:
Well that depends. There are many types of Christian - the radical right, Catholics, evangelicals, democrats and republicans etc. I don't think you can lump them all together.

I agree----but non-religious people have no problem sterotyping them all into one big ogre. Are we gonig to be warned about other religious references made in movies?
 
ScreamingEagle said:
The divide only needs to exist in your own self, your own beliefs. As long as the government is not establishing religion you should be just fine even if someone else is expressing his religion next to you in the public square. Their free expression is not going to harm you and your whipping out your rosary is not going to harm anybody either unless you hit them with it. :D

Personally I think the "secular world" should be exposed for the communist and anti-American movement it truly is. I'd like to then watch it fall from popularity and disappear as people finally catch on to the truth. It is the movement that is behind the moral destruction of America through its promotion of pornographic movies and music, all in the name of free expression. Secularism has no morality...except when it comes to Christianity...which it despises. You need to ask why.

I agree with your first paragraph as long as tax money isn't used.

As for the second part. I am secular and neither communist nor anti-American. Most secularists I know hate pornography, but like music. I guess you meant a particular brand of music. The vast majority of secular people I know do not despise Christianity. All they want is Christianity to leave them alone - much like Christians want seculars to leave them alone (well, the ones they ain't trying to convert..:O)
 
dilloduck said:
I agree----but non-religious people have no problem sterotyping them all into one big ogre. Are we gonig to be warned about other religious references made in movies?

I hear ya. It really is a dumb thing to do...they need a good kick up their butt IMO...
 
Dr Grump said:
I hear ya. It really is a dumb thing to do...they need a good kick up their butt IMO...

I guess we all deserve one now and then. America and Christianity have enjoyed a nice couple of centuries of coexistence. I guess the honeymoons' over.
 

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