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I ran across an interesting factoid (I dont' remember where, sorry) while I was rubbing Army Cowboy's nose in the dirt....
Southern States, which are the poorest, and most Christian, give a much higher percentage of their incomes to charity.
I just thought it was interesting. Everybody calls them backwards and stupid, as if income determines one's character...but when it comes to giving till it hurts, those communities are the ones who do it.
I ran across an interesting factoid (I dont' remember where, sorry) while I was rubbing Army Cowboy's nose in the dirt....
Southern States, which are the poorest, and most Christian, give a much higher percentage of their incomes to charity.
I just thought it was interesting. Everybody calls them backwards and stupid, as if income determines one's character...but when it comes to giving till it hurts, those communities are the ones who do it.
Not sure that's a valid conclusion -- perhaps the other way round? Also it's not universal that the South is the poorest -- true for Mississippi but not for, say, Georgia:
It might be a point worth looking up, though it would also be hard to pin down what constitutes "giving to charity", which, like religiousness, takes other forms aside from the formal-institutional.
I ran across an interesting factoid (I dont' remember where, sorry) while I was rubbing Army Cowboy's nose in the dirt....
Southern States, which are the poorest, and most Christian, give a much higher percentage of their incomes to charity.
I just thought it was interesting. Everybody calls them backwards and stupid, as if income determines one's character...but when it comes to giving till it hurts, those communities are the ones who do it.
Not sure that's a valid conclusion -- perhaps the other way round? Also it's not universal that the South is the poorest -- true for Mississippi but not for, say, Georgia:
It might be a point worth looking up, though it would also be hard to pin down what constitutes "giving to charity", which, like religiousness, takes other forms aside from the formal-institutional.
Exactly. I donate to NPR. Does that make me a better person than someone who donates to their mosque or church? Or someone who does neither?
Not sure that's a valid conclusion -- perhaps the other way round? Also it's not universal that the South is the poorest -- true for Mississippi but not for, say, Georgia:
It might be a point worth looking up, though it would also be hard to pin down what constitutes "giving to charity", which, like religiousness, takes other forms aside from the formal-institutional.
Exactly. I donate to NPR. Does that make me a better person than someone who donates to their mosque or church? Or someone who does neither?
-- and to further muddy those waters, one's giving to the church, mosque or synagogue may not count as "charity" depending on what that institution does with the donation, e.g. if it's nothing more than perpetuating itself you get a net zero.
Being religious, especially Christian, means you do not have to ever tell anyone.
They will know it by your actions.
Not some silly "study" done by a lame brain media "expert" looking for a way to get exposure.
Many religious people would refuse to offer any opinions so they would be put down as non religious and not attending church.
That really makes no sense. By definition in order to be a good Christian you are required to open your mouth and share the Gospel.
Im all for being a good example. But that doesn't excuse us from our duty to share the Gospel. We shouldn't be afraid to do so.
What a load of garbage.
Have you heard of the Great Commission?
Matthew 28:16-20
New International Version (NIV)
The Great Commission
16 Then the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had told them to go. 17 When they saw him, they worshiped him; but some doubted. 18 Then Jesus came to them and said, All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.
Cross references:
Matthew 28:16-20 NIV - The Great Commission - Then the eleven - Bible Gateway
- Matthew 28:16 : ver 7, 10; Mt 26:32
- Matthew 28:18 : Da 7:13, 14; Lk 10:22; Jn 3:35; S 13:13; 17:2; 1Co 15:27; Eph 1:20-22; Php 2:9, 10
- Matthew 28:19 : Isa 49:6; Mk 16:15, 16; Lk 24:47; Ac 1:8; 14:21
- Matthew 28:19 : Ac 1:8; 2:38; 8:16; Ro 6:3, 4; Gal 3:27; Col 2:12
- Matthew 28:20 : Jn 14:26; Ac 2:42
- Matthew 28:20 : Dt 31:6; 1Ki 8:57; Hag 1:13; Mt 18:20; Ac 18:10
- Matthew 28:20 : Mt 13:39; 24:3
What a load of garbage.
Have you heard of the Great Commission?
Matthew 28:16-20
New International Version (NIV)
The Great Commission
16 Then the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had told them to go. 17 When they saw him, they worshiped him; but some doubted. 18 Then Jesus came to them and said, All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.
Cross references:
Matthew 28:16-20 NIV - The Great Commission - Then the eleven - Bible Gateway
- Matthew 28:16 : ver 7, 10; Mt 26:32
- Matthew 28:18 : Da 7:13, 14; Lk 10:22; Jn 3:35; S 13:13; 17:2; 1Co 15:27; Eph 1:20-22; Php 2:9, 10
- Matthew 28:19 : Isa 49:6; Mk 16:15, 16; Lk 24:47; Ac 1:8; 14:21
- Matthew 28:19 : Ac 1:8; 2:38; 8:16; Ro 6:3, 4; Gal 3:27; Col 2:12
- Matthew 28:20 : Jn 14:26; Ac 2:42
- Matthew 28:20 : Dt 31:6; 1Ki 8:57; Hag 1:13; Mt 18:20; Ac 18:10
- Matthew 28:20 : Mt 13:39; 24:3
Get thee behind me, Satan.
Jesus said to pray in private and he never preached in a church.
Being a Christian means you never have to tell anyone.
I remember when my kids were little and our church had an annual trip to Mexico to help the poor there and spread the gospel.
It was around $2200 a kid for 10 days and they did a lot of good down there.
I offered this: why not go down the road 1/2 mile from the church where there is a good sized Hispanic community and help those folks there.
The response I got from the church members was similar to if I would have stood up during the preacher's sermon on Sunday, bent over and farted in open church.
How dare we not go and spread the gospel in Mexico as they need that and that is what good Christians do. And many of the "Christians" there said that those Hispanics were most likely illegal and we should not be doing anything to help them.
Yes, deport them so then we can all go to Mexico at $2200 a piece to preach them the gospel and save them.
I am sure Jesus would want it that way.
I believe we are to be CHRISTLIKE FIRST, keep our pie holes shut and the model we will gather more of the flock is to ALSO BE Christlike as that will be set with the examples of our actions.
Talk is cheap and this generation knows it and one wonders why membership is way down.
Keep in mind the family that organized this Mexico mission trip for decades owned the local travel agency.
Being a Christian means you never have to tell anyone.
BEWARE of those that go around telling everyone and anyone how much of a Christian they are.
Real Christians are known by how Christlike they are, not how much they open their mouth.
9 And when he was departed thence, he went into their synagogue:
10 ¶And, behold, there was a man which had his hand withered. And they asked him, saying, Is it lawful to heal on the sabbath days? that they might accuse him.
11 And he said unto them, What man shall there be among you, that shall have one sheep, and if it fall into a pit on the sabbath day, will he not lay hold on it, and lift it out?
12 How much then is a man better than a sheep? Wherefore it is lawful to do well on the sabbath days.
13 Then saith he to the man, Stretch forth thine hand. And he stretched it forth; and it was restored whole, like as the other (Matthew 12:9-13).
35 And Jesus went about all the cities and villages, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing every sickness and every disease among the people. (Matthew 9:35)
54 And when he was come into his own country, he taught them in their synagogue, insomuch that they were astonished, and said, Whence hath this man this wisdom, and these mighty works? (Matthew 13:54)
The sad part is you are right.
If you believe the bible is true, then it's hard to get around the whole proselytizing thing...
We're all going to hell and you better try your damnedest to save us.
Jesus said to pray in private and he never preached in a church.
Being a Christian means you never have to tell anyone.
I remember when my kids were little and our church had an annual trip to Mexico to help the poor there and spread the gospel.
It was around $2200 a kid for 10 days and they did a lot of good down there.
I offered this: why not go down the road 1/2 mile from the church where there is a good sized Hispanic community and help those folks there.
The response I got from the church members was similar to if I would have stood up during the preacher's sermon on Sunday, bent over and farted in open church.
How dare we not go and spread the gospel in Mexico as they need that and that is what good Christians do. And many of the "Christians" there said that those Hispanics were most likely illegal and we should not be doing anything to help them.
Yes, deport them so then we can all go to Mexico at $2200 a piece to preach them the gospel and save them.
I am sure Jesus would want it that way.
I believe we are to be CHRISTLIKE FIRST, keep our pie holes shut and the model we will gather more of the flock is to ALSO BE Christlike as that will be set with the examples of our actions.
Talk is cheap and this generation knows it and one wonders why membership is way down.
Keep in mind the family that organized this Mexico mission trip for decades owned the local travel agency.
Being a Christian means you never have to tell anyone.
BEWARE of those that go around telling everyone and anyone how much of a Christian they are.
Real Christians are known by how Christlike they are, not how much they open their mouth.
Jesus never preached in a Church? He preached in Synagogues all the time:
9 And when he was departed thence, he went into their synagogue:
10 ¶And, behold, there was a man which had his hand withered. And they asked him, saying, Is it lawful to heal on the sabbath days? that they might accuse him.
11 And he said unto them, What man shall there be among you, that shall have one sheep, and if it fall into a pit on the sabbath day, will he not lay hold on it, and lift it out?
12 How much then is a man better than a sheep? Wherefore it is lawful to do well on the sabbath days.
13 Then saith he to the man, Stretch forth thine hand. And he stretched it forth; and it was restored whole, like as the other (Matthew 12:9-13).
35 And Jesus went about all the cities and villages, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing every sickness and every disease among the people. (Matthew 9:35)
54 And when he was come into his own country, he taught them in their synagogue, insomuch that they were astonished, and said, Whence hath this man this wisdom, and these mighty works? (Matthew 13:54)
That's just in the Gospel of Matthew, but the other Gospels confirm that Christ taught the people in their Synagogues. How can you say He never did? The Twelve did the same.
Your story, while sad, doesn't provide a reason we shouldn't open our mouth. God has commanded us to preach the Gospel and to live it. He wants us to do both.
The san hedrin didn't keep him in check; they attempted, failed, and then had him killed. And Christ was a rabbi.
Teaching, and preaching, when it comes to religion, are the same thing.
preach
/pritʃ/ Show Spelled [preech] Show IPA
verb (used with object) 1. to proclaim or make known by sermon (the gospel, good tidings, etc.).
2. to deliver (a sermon).
3. to advocate or inculcate (religious or moral truth, right conduct, etc.) in speech or writing.
Preach | Define Preach at Dictionary.com
No, Jesus did not preach in the synagogues. He TAUGHT in the synagogues. Big difference in that era of history. He was basically handcuffed as his message that he did preach away from the synagogues was of love, do not judge and love thy neighbor, ideas FOREIGN to the Jewish doctrine.
Jesus preached in the cities to the poor, the sick, the oppressed and those that the Jewish religion looked down upon.
Jesus was a radical of his day. The leaders of the Jewish rabbis kept him in check.
No offense to you and respectfully I find it amazing you do not know this.
17 And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,
18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,
19 To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.
20 And he closed the book, and he gave it again to the minister, and sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him.
21 And he began to say unto them, This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears.(Luke 4:17-21)
