Most people don't even know what a "Public Option" is.

Most people don't even know what a "Public Option" is.
It's a mere semantic ruse, since "socialized medicine" won't fly and people have already decoded "single payer" and "universal insurance" to also mean socialized medicine.

If you can'r dazzle them with your brilliance, baffle them with your bullshit.


Really? So, a "public option" just does away with all private health care and Nationalizes all health care in the US?

That's an interesting interpretation. It's also a bunch of horsehockey.

But hey, Hyperbole from the Anarchists, that's nothing new.
 
I don't put much stock in any polls anymore, they are all useless. They all have an agenda, one way or the other, whether they admit it or not, and anyone with even half a brain knows how easy it is to manipulate a poll and it's results to achieve a desired result.
 
The politicians arent even sure ....

President Obama has promised Americans clarity in his speech tonight on health care. I hope he does better than he did on Good Morning America today. What did he say? No one knows for sure. Even the journalists can't agree on what he said. Check out the different versions in the Washington Post and LA Times. (Clue: It all depends on the meaning of "it.")

Deciphering Obama's Latest on the Public Option - TalkLeft: The Politics Of Crime
 
Most people don't even know what a "Public Option" is.
It's a mere semantic ruse, since "socialized medicine" won't fly and people have already decoded "single payer" and "universal insurance" to also mean socialized medicine.

If you can'r dazzle them with your brilliance, baffle them with your bullshit.


Really? So, a "public option" just does away with all private health care and Nationalizes all health care in the US?
That's the end game, and anyone who can dispassionately look at the facts and deny that is a mere political hack.....Like you.
 
That's the end game, and anyone who can dispassionately look at the facts and deny that is a mere political hack.....Like you.


So speaks the great Oracle of the Internet! Obviously everyone who suggests that the government takes a hand in anything is a Socialist looking to lead our nation into Communism and Totalitarianism! Right?

Just like Americorps is a front for a special SS force that will be used to turn the nation into a dictatorship!

Again, hyperbole is the Anarchist's favorite weapon.
 
Hey Dude, what exactly would our country look like if we took it to the Libertarian ideological conclusion?
 
The politicians arent even sure ....

President Obama has promised Americans clarity in his speech tonight on health care. I hope he does better than he did on Good Morning America today. What did he say? No one knows for sure. Even the journalists can't agree on what he said. Check out the different versions in the Washington Post and LA Times. (Clue: It all depends on the meaning of "it.")

Deciphering Obama's Latest on the Public Option - TalkLeft: The Politics Of Crime


And then he gave an excellent speech, the next day, which everyone seemed to understand.

I think Obama's mistake is that he thinks people will do their homework and actually find out what the hell they're arguing about...
 
It's a mere semantic ruse, since "socialized medicine" won't fly and people have already decoded "single payer" and "universal insurance" to also mean socialized medicine.

If you can'r dazzle them with your brilliance, baffle them with your bullshit.


Really? So, a "public option" just does away with all private health care and Nationalizes all health care in the US?
That's the end game, and anyone who can dispassionately look at the facts and deny that is a mere political hack.....Like you.

It doesn't make sense they don't see that when Obama himself says that's his long term goal, and admits it could take 15-20 yrs.:cuckoo:
 
That's the end game, and anyone who can dispassionately look at the facts and deny that is a mere political hack.....Like you.


So speaks the great Oracle of the Internet! Obviously everyone who suggests that the government takes a hand in anything is a Socialist looking to lead our nation into Communism and Totalitarianism! Right?

Just like Americorps is a front for a special SS force that will be used to turn the nation into a dictatorship!

Again, hyperbole is the Anarchist's favorite weapon.
Hyperbole nothing....I know exactly how political hacks manipulate language.

Given their track record, those pushing the cynically dubbed "public option" are sporting for that to be the only "option" when all is said and done.

You're as naive as a 4-year old child.
 
The politicians arent even sure ....

President Obama has promised Americans clarity in his speech tonight on health care. I hope he does better than he did on Good Morning America today. What did he say? No one knows for sure. Even the journalists can't agree on what he said. Check out the different versions in the Washington Post and LA Times. (Clue: It all depends on the meaning of "it.")

Deciphering Obama's Latest on the Public Option - TalkLeft: The Politics Of Crime


And then he gave an excellent speech, the next day, which everyone seemed to understand.

I think Obama's mistake is that he thinks people will do their homework and actually find out what the hell they're arguing about...
I erred....You're as naive as a 2-year old child.
 
The politicians arent even sure ....

President Obama has promised Americans clarity in his speech tonight on health care. I hope he does better than he did on Good Morning America today. What did he say? No one knows for sure. Even the journalists can't agree on what he said. Check out the different versions in the Washington Post and LA Times. (Clue: It all depends on the meaning of "it.")

Deciphering Obama's Latest on the Public Option - TalkLeft: The Politics Of Crime


And then he gave an excellent speech, the next day, which everyone seemed to understand.

I think Obama's mistake is that he thinks people will do their homework and actually find out what the hell they're arguing about...

Was it this one ?

Obama Inadvertently Explains Why Any Public Option Health Insurance Is Doomed

Then he invoked the Postal Service:

"I mean, if you think about it, UPS and FedEx are doing just fine, right? No, they are. It's the post office that's always having problems."

That comment provoked laughter from the audience.

Obama Inadvertently Explains Why Any Public Option Health Insurance Is Doomed | Corrente
 
It would look much more prosperous than today.

For a socialistic idealogy that can lay claim to burned out hell holes like Oakland, Detroit, and Camden, NJ, I'd say that the left has precious little to brag about.

Yeaaaaah, except that Socialism worked quite well during the 40's, 50's and 60's, the largest period of productivity growth in the history of our country.

And there was MUCH more Socialism in place during that period than in the 50 years since.

Besides, the closest thing to an historical example of your Libertarian paradise is the late 1800's when Monopolies owned everything and the worth of a human life amounted next to nil.
 
The politicians arent even sure ....

President Obama has promised Americans clarity in his speech tonight on health care. I hope he does better than he did on Good Morning America today. What did he say? No one knows for sure. Even the journalists can't agree on what he said. Check out the different versions in the Washington Post and LA Times. (Clue: It all depends on the meaning of "it.")

Deciphering Obama's Latest on the Public Option - TalkLeft: The Politics Of Crime


And then he gave an excellent speech, the next day, which everyone seemed to understand.

I think Obama's mistake is that he thinks people will do their homework and actually find out what the hell they're arguing about...

Was it this one ?

Obama Inadvertently Explains Why Any Public Option Health Insurance Is Doomed

Then he invoked the Postal Service:

"I mean, if you think about it, UPS and FedEx are doing just fine, right? No, they are. It's the post office that's always having problems."

That comment provoked laughter from the audience.

Obama Inadvertently Explains Why Any Public Option Health Insurance Is Doomed | Corrente

The postal service has been a model of efficiency for the past century. There is no way Fedex or UPS could deliver the amount of mail the postal service does for 44 cents.

The only reason why the Postal Service is currently having difficulties is that E-Mail came into existence. Sometimes technology happens.
 
Really? So, a "public option" just does away with all private health care and Nationalizes all health care in the US?
That's the end game, and anyone who can dispassionately look at the facts and deny that is a mere political hack.....Like you.

It doesn't make sense they don't see that when Obama himself says that's his long term goal, and admits it could take 15-20 yrs.:cuckoo:

No, see... you don't seem to understand the concept of a "Compromise".

Mr Obama and the folks on the left wanted Universal Healthcare. That was their goal.

The folks on the right don't want any governmental Health Care program at all. That was their goal.

A "Public Option" is a COMPROMISE. I know that's a strange concept to some people, but it exists.

It's not a means to the end of some Nationalized Healthcare system, it is the end goal.
 
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It would look much more prosperous than today.

For a socialistic idealogy that can lay claim to burned out hell holes like Oakland, Detroit, and Camden, NJ, I'd say that the left has precious little to brag about.

Yeaaaaah, except that Socialism worked quite well during the 40's, 50's and 60's, the largest period of productivity growth in the history of our country.

And there was MUCH more Socialism in place during that period than in the 50 years since.

Besides, the closest thing to an historical example of your Libertarian paradise is the late 1800's when Monopolies owned everything and the worth of a human life amounted next to nil.
That capitalism has weathered the all out assault upon it by a mob of small minded authoritarians pleases me to no end. But every system has its breaking point, insofar as how many parasites it can withstand.

And those eeeeeviiilll monopolies couldn't have existed without the aid of those who have the monopoly on the use of force, to keep them going.

But hey....Seems you swallowed all of the all-that-is-great-in-America-came-from-gubmint propaganda they fed you in the gubmint schools, so your childlike naivete is understandable.
 
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It would look much more prosperous than today.

For a socialistic idealogy that can lay claim to burned out hell holes like Oakland, Detroit, and Camden, NJ, I'd say that the left has precious little to brag about.

Yeaaaaah, except that Socialism worked quite well during the 40's, 50's and 60's, the largest period of productivity growth in the history of our country.

And there was MUCH more Socialism in place during that period than in the 50 years since.

Besides, the closest thing to an historical example of your Libertarian paradise is the late 1800's when Monopolies owned everything and the worth of a human life amounted next to nil.
That capitalism has weathered the all out assault upon it by a mob of small minded authoritarians pleases me to no end. But every system has its breaking point ,insofar as how many parasites it can withstand.

And those eeeeeviiilll monopolies couldn't have existed without the aid of those who have the monopoly on the use of force, to keep them going.

But hey....Seems you swallowed all of the all-that-is-great-in-America-came-from-gubmint propaganda they fed you in the gubmint schools, so your childlike naivete is understandable.

There is a difference between Capitalism and Corporatism.

One implies an equal playing field where anyone can thrive and create businesses from the ground up. The other is a world ruled by giant Conglomerates that stifle competition and will do anything to make a buck. Where government is a paid tool of the all-encompassing Corporation.

This is a battle between the ideals of Socialist Democracy and Corporate Oligarchy. Not between Socialism and Capitalism.

And Political Anarchist/Corporate Oligarchs like yourself have no idea what the world would become if we let your ideology rule.
 
Wow, perhaps this is part of the problem:

In a poll done by the AARP, only 37% of respondents actually knew what a "public option" was:

pubopt2.PNG

well, even the AARP worded it WRONGLY...

it is NOT a government funded
insurance plan?????

it is funded by those who buy the policies themselves, like any insurance policy.
 
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Wow, perhaps this is part of the problem:

In a poll done by the AARP, only 37% of respondents actually knew what a "public option" was:

pubopt2.PNG

well, even the AARP worded it WRONGLY...

it is NOT a government funded
public plan?????

it is funded by those who buy the policies themselves, like any insurance policy.
At gunpoint, if necessary.
 
Wow, perhaps this is part of the problem:

In a poll done by the AARP, only 37% of respondents actually knew what a "public option" was:

pubopt2.PNG

well, even the AARP worded it WRONGLY...

it is NOT a government funded
public plan?????

it is funded by those who buy the policies themselves, like any insurance policy.
At gunpoint, if necessary.

please not you too dude....enough of the drama queenism.... :razz:
 

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