Most college graduates cannot pass this eighth grade final exam.

[RWNJ]

Oh. Did I mention that the test was from 1859? This is a sad comment on our education system. How far we have fallen.

Here is the test.

Grammar (Time, one hour)
1. Give nine rules for the use of Capital Letters.
2. Name the Parts of Speech and define those that have no modifications.
3. Define Verse, Stanza and Paragraph.
4. What are the Principal Parts of a verb? Give Principal Parts of do, lie, lay and run.
5. Define Case, Illustrate each Case.
6. What is Punctuation? Give rules for principal marks of Punctuation.
7-10. Write a composition of about 150 words and show therein that you understand the practical use of the rules of grammar.

Arithmetic (Time, 1.25 hours)
1. Name and define the Fundamental Rules of Arithmetic.
2. A wagon box is 2 ft. deep, 10 feet long, and 3 ft. wide. How many bushels of wheat will it hold?
3. If a load of wheat weighs 3942 lbs., what is it worth at 50cts. per bu, deducting 1050 lbs. for tare?
4. District No. 33 has a valuation of $35,000. What is the necessary levy to carry on a school seven months at $50 per month, and have $104 for incidentals?
5. Find cost of 6720 lbs. coal at $6.00 per ton.
6. Find the interest of $512.60 for 8 months and 18 days at 7 percent.
7. What is the cost of 40 boards 12 inches wide and 16 ft. long at $.20 per inch?
8. Find bank discount on $300 for 90 days (no grace) at 10 percent.
9. What is the cost of a square farm at $15 per acre, the distance around which is 640 rods?
10.Write a Bank Check, a Promissory Note, and a Receipt.
U.S. History (Time, 45 minutes)
1. Give the epochs into which U.S. History is divided.
2. Give an account of the discovery of America by Columbus.
3. Relate the causes and results of the Revolutionary War.
4. Show the territorial growth of the United States.
5. Tell what you can of the history of Kansas.
6. Describe three of the most prominent battles of the Rebellion.
7. Who were the following: Morse, Whitney, Fulton, Bell, Lincoln, Penn, and Howe?
8. Name events connected with the following dates: 1607, 1620, 1800, 1849, and 1865?

Orthography (Time, one hour)
1. What is meant by the following: Alphabet, phonetic orthography, etymology, syllabication?
2. What are elementary sounds? How classified?
3. What are the following, and give examples of each: Trigraph, subvocals, diphthong, cognate letters, linguals?
4. Give four substitutes for caret 'u'.
5. Give two rules for spelling words with final 'e'. Name two exceptions under each rule.
6. Give two uses of silent letters in spelling. Illustrate each.
7. Define the following prefixes and use in connection with a word: Bi, dis, mis, pre, semi, post, non, inter, mono, super.
8. Mark diacritically and divide into syllables the following, and name the sign that indicates the sound: Card, ball, mercy, sir, odd, cell, rise, blood, fare, last.
9. Use the following correctly in sentences, Cite, site, sight, fane, fain, feign, vane, vain, vein, raze, raise, rays.
10.Write 10 words frequently mispronounced and indicate pronunciation by use of diacritical marks and by syllabication.
Geography (Time, one hour)
1. What is climate? Upon what does climate depend?
2. How do you account for the extremes of climate in Kansas?
3. Of what use are rivers? Of what use is the ocean?
4. Describe the mountains of N.A.
5. Name and describe the following: Monrovia, Odessa, Denver, Manitoba, Hecla, Yukon, St. Helena, Juan Fermandez, Aspinwall and Orinoco.
6. Name and locate the principal trade centers of the U.S.
7. Name all the republics of Europe and give capital of each.
8. Why is the Atlantic Coast colder than the Pacific in the same latitude?
9. Describe the process by which the water of the ocean returns to the sources of rivers.
10.Describe the movements of the earth. Give inclination of the earth.
The top of the test states > "EXAMINATION GRADUATION QUESTIONS OF SALINE COUNTY, KANSAS
April 13, 1895 J.W. Armstrong, County Superintendent.Examinations at Salina, New Cambria, Gypsum City, Assaria, Falun, Bavaria, and District No. 74 (in Glendale Twp.)"
According to the Smoky Valley Genealogy Society, Salina, Kansas "this test is the original eighth-grade final exam for 1895 from Salina, KS. An interesting note is the fact that county students taking this test were allowed to take the test in the 7th grade, and if they did not pass the test at that time, they were allowed to re-take it again in the 8th grade.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Most college graduates cannot pass this eighth grade final exam.

Only someone who has never attended college would fall for such nonsense.

Loser.

 

[Tank]

That's the way liberals like things

 

[RWNJ]

Most college graduates cannot pass this eighth grade final exam.

Only someone who has never attended college would fall for such nonsense.

Loser.

I guess that means you failed the test. LOL!

 

[HappyJoy]

Oh. Did I mention that the test was from 1859? This is a sad comment on our education system. How far we have fallen.

Here is the test.

Grammar (Time, one hour)
1. Give nine rules for the use of Capital Letters.
2. Name the Parts of Speech and define those that have no modifications.
3. Define Verse, Stanza and Paragraph.
4. What are the Principal Parts of a verb? Give Principal Parts of do, lie, lay and run.
5. Define Case, Illustrate each Case.
6. What is Punctuation? Give rules for principal marks of Punctuation.
7-10. Write a composition of about 150 words and show therein that you understand the practical use of the rules of grammar.

Arithmetic (Time, 1.25 hours)
1. Name and define the Fundamental Rules of Arithmetic.
2. A wagon box is 2 ft. deep, 10 feet long, and 3 ft. wide. How many bushels of wheat will it hold?
3. If a load of wheat weighs 3942 lbs., what is it worth at 50cts. per bu, deducting 1050 lbs. for tare?
4. District No. 33 has a valuation of $35,000. What is the necessary levy to carry on a school seven months at $50 per month, and have $104 for incidentals?
5. Find cost of 6720 lbs. coal at $6.00 per ton.
6. Find the interest of $512.60 for 8 months and 18 days at 7 percent.
7. What is the cost of 40 boards 12 inches wide and 16 ft. long at $.20 per inch?
8. Find bank discount on $300 for 90 days (no grace) at 10 percent.
9. What is the cost of a square farm at $15 per acre, the distance around which is 640 rods?
10.Write a Bank Check, a Promissory Note, and a Receipt.
U.S. History (Time, 45 minutes)
1. Give the epochs into which U.S. History is divided.
2. Give an account of the discovery of America by Columbus.
3. Relate the causes and results of the Revolutionary War.
4. Show the territorial growth of the United States.
5. Tell what you can of the history of Kansas.
6. Describe three of the most prominent battles of the Rebellion.
7. Who were the following: Morse, Whitney, Fulton, Bell, Lincoln, Penn, and Howe?
8. Name events connected with the following dates: 1607, 1620, 1800, 1849, and 1865?

Orthography (Time, one hour)
1. What is meant by the following: Alphabet, phonetic orthography, etymology, syllabication?
2. What are elementary sounds? How classified?
3. What are the following, and give examples of each: Trigraph, subvocals, diphthong, cognate letters, linguals?
4. Give four substitutes for caret 'u'.
5. Give two rules for spelling words with final 'e'. Name two exceptions under each rule.
6. Give two uses of silent letters in spelling. Illustrate each.
7. Define the following prefixes and use in connection with a word: Bi, dis, mis, pre, semi, post, non, inter, mono, super.
8. Mark diacritically and divide into syllables the following, and name the sign that indicates the sound: Card, ball, mercy, sir, odd, cell, rise, blood, fare, last.
9. Use the following correctly in sentences, Cite, site, sight, fane, fain, feign, vane, vain, vein, raze, raise, rays.
10.Write 10 words frequently mispronounced and indicate pronunciation by use of diacritical marks and by syllabication.
Geography (Time, one hour)
1. What is climate? Upon what does climate depend?
2. How do you account for the extremes of climate in Kansas?
3. Of what use are rivers? Of what use is the ocean?
4. Describe the mountains of N.A.
5. Name and describe the following: Monrovia, Odessa, Denver, Manitoba, Hecla, Yukon, St. Helena, Juan Fermandez, Aspinwall and Orinoco.
6. Name and locate the principal trade centers of the U.S.
7. Name all the republics of Europe and give capital of each.
8. Why is the Atlantic Coast colder than the Pacific in the same latitude?
9. Describe the process by which the water of the ocean returns to the sources of rivers.
10.Describe the movements of the earth. Give inclination of the earth.
The top of the test states > "EXAMINATION GRADUATION QUESTIONS OF SALINE COUNTY, KANSAS
April 13, 1895 J.W. Armstrong, County Superintendent.Examinations at Salina, New Cambria, Gypsum City, Assaria, Falun, Bavaria, and District No. 74 (in Glendale Twp.)"
According to the Smoky Valley Genealogy Society, Salina, Kansas "this test is the original eighth-grade final exam for 1895 from Salina, KS. An interesting note is the fact that county students taking this test were allowed to take the test in the 7th grade, and if they did not pass the test at that time, they were allowed to re-take it again in the 8th grade.

Let me guess, high school graduates totally aced the test.

 

[saveliberty]

Oh. Did I mention that the test was from 1859? This is a sad comment on our education system. How far we have fallen.

Here is the test.

Grammar (Time, one hour)
1. Give nine rules for the use of Capital Letters.
2. Name the Parts of Speech and define those that have no modifications.
3. Define Verse, Stanza and Paragraph.
4. What are the Principal Parts of a verb? Give Principal Parts of do, lie, lay and run.
5. Define Case, Illustrate each Case.
6. What is Punctuation? Give rules for principal marks of Punctuation.
7-10. Write a composition of about 150 words and show therein that you understand the practical use of the rules of grammar.

Arithmetic (Time, 1.25 hours)
1. Name and define the Fundamental Rules of Arithmetic.
2. A wagon box is 2 ft. deep, 10 feet long, and 3 ft. wide. How many bushels of wheat will it hold?
3. If a load of wheat weighs 3942 lbs., what is it worth at 50cts. per bu, deducting 1050 lbs. for tare?
4. District No. 33 has a valuation of $35,000. What is the necessary levy to carry on a school seven months at $50 per month, and have $104 for incidentals?
5. Find cost of 6720 lbs. coal at $6.00 per ton.
6. Find the interest of $512.60 for 8 months and 18 days at 7 percent.
7. What is the cost of 40 boards 12 inches wide and 16 ft. long at $.20 per inch?
8. Find bank discount on $300 for 90 days (no grace) at 10 percent.
9. What is the cost of a square farm at $15 per acre, the distance around which is 640 rods?
10.Write a Bank Check, a Promissory Note, and a Receipt.
U.S. History (Time, 45 minutes)
1. Give the epochs into which U.S. History is divided.
2. Give an account of the discovery of America by Columbus.
3. Relate the causes and results of the Revolutionary War.
4. Show the territorial growth of the United States.
5. Tell what you can of the history of Kansas.
6. Describe three of the most prominent battles of the Rebellion.
7. Who were the following: Morse, Whitney, Fulton, Bell, Lincoln, Penn, and Howe?
8. Name events connected with the following dates: 1607, 1620, 1800, 1849, and 1865?

Orthography (Time, one hour)
1. What is meant by the following: Alphabet, phonetic orthography, etymology, syllabication?
2. What are elementary sounds? How classified?
3. What are the following, and give examples of each: Trigraph, subvocals, diphthong, cognate letters, linguals?
4. Give four substitutes for caret 'u'.
5. Give two rules for spelling words with final 'e'. Name two exceptions under each rule.
6. Give two uses of silent letters in spelling. Illustrate each.
7. Define the following prefixes and use in connection with a word: Bi, dis, mis, pre, semi, post, non, inter, mono, super.
8. Mark diacritically and divide into syllables the following, and name the sign that indicates the sound: Card, ball, mercy, sir, odd, cell, rise, blood, fare, last.
9. Use the following correctly in sentences, Cite, site, sight, fane, fain, feign, vane, vain, vein, raze, raise, rays.
10.Write 10 words frequently mispronounced and indicate pronunciation by use of diacritical marks and by syllabication.
Geography (Time, one hour)
1. What is climate? Upon what does climate depend?
2. How do you account for the extremes of climate in Kansas?
3. Of what use are rivers? Of what use is the ocean?
4. Describe the mountains of N.A.
5. Name and describe the following: Monrovia, Odessa, Denver, Manitoba, Hecla, Yukon, St. Helena, Juan Fermandez, Aspinwall and Orinoco.
6. Name and locate the principal trade centers of the U.S.
7. Name all the republics of Europe and give capital of each.
8. Why is the Atlantic Coast colder than the Pacific in the same latitude?
9. Describe the process by which the water of the ocean returns to the sources of rivers.
10.Describe the movements of the earth. Give inclination of the earth.
The top of the test states > "EXAMINATION GRADUATION QUESTIONS OF SALINE COUNTY, KANSAS
April 13, 1895 J.W. Armstrong, County Superintendent.Examinations at Salina, New Cambria, Gypsum City, Assaria, Falun, Bavaria, and District No. 74 (in Glendale Twp.)"
According to the Smoky Valley Genealogy Society, Salina, Kansas "this test is the original eighth-grade final exam for 1895 from Salina, KS. An interesting note is the fact that county students taking this test were allowed to take the test in the 7th grade, and if they did not pass the test at that time, they were allowed to re-take it again in the 8th grade.

Early form of teaching to the test?

 

[Montrovant]

Most college graduates cannot pass this eighth grade final exam.

Only someone who has never attended college would fall for such nonsense.

Loser.

I guess that means you failed the test. LOL!

Did you pass the test? I wonder, did you know what distance a rod is without looking it up, or what tare is? What are the 9 rules of capitalization? How about 4 substitutes for carat 'u'?

Here's a test where a number of the questions are outdated or use terminology uncommon in modern times, a test where the students would likely be expected to have been studying for the exam in the weeks leading up to it, yet somehow it is supposed to be a condemnation of modern education? Where are the higher math questions? World history? Science?

This is a silly thread.

 

[saveliberty]

Wonder how they would have done on describe the difference between byte and bite?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Oh. Did I mention that the test was from 1859? This is a sad comment on our education system. How far we have fallen.

Here is the test.

Grammar (Time, one hour)
1. Give nine rules for the use of Capital Letters.
2. Name the Parts of Speech and define those that have no modifications.
3. Define Verse, Stanza and Paragraph.
4. What are the Principal Parts of a verb? Give Principal Parts of do, lie, lay and run.
5. Define Case, Illustrate each Case.
6. What is Punctuation? Give rules for principal marks of Punctuation.
7-10. Write a composition of about 150 words and show therein that you understand the practical use of the rules of grammar.

Arithmetic (Time, 1.25 hours)
1. Name and define the Fundamental Rules of Arithmetic.
2. A wagon box is 2 ft. deep, 10 feet long, and 3 ft. wide. How many bushels of wheat will it hold?
3. If a load of wheat weighs 3942 lbs., what is it worth at 50cts. per bu, deducting 1050 lbs. for tare?
4. District No. 33 has a valuation of $35,000. What is the necessary levy to carry on a school seven months at $50 per month, and have $104 for incidentals?
5. Find cost of 6720 lbs. coal at $6.00 per ton.
6. Find the interest of $512.60 for 8 months and 18 days at 7 percent.
7. What is the cost of 40 boards 12 inches wide and 16 ft. long at $.20 per inch?
8. Find bank discount on $300 for 90 days (no grace) at 10 percent.
9. What is the cost of a square farm at $15 per acre, the distance around which is 640 rods?
10.Write a Bank Check, a Promissory Note, and a Receipt.
U.S. History (Time, 45 minutes)
1. Give the epochs into which U.S. History is divided.
2. Give an account of the discovery of America by Columbus.
3. Relate the causes and results of the Revolutionary War.
4. Show the territorial growth of the United States.
5. Tell what you can of the history of Kansas.
6. Describe three of the most prominent battles of the Rebellion.
7. Who were the following: Morse, Whitney, Fulton, Bell, Lincoln, Penn, and Howe?
8. Name events connected with the following dates: 1607, 1620, 1800, 1849, and 1865?

Orthography (Time, one hour)
1. What is meant by the following: Alphabet, phonetic orthography, etymology, syllabication?
2. What are elementary sounds? How classified?
3. What are the following, and give examples of each: Trigraph, subvocals, diphthong, cognate letters, linguals?
4. Give four substitutes for caret 'u'.
5. Give two rules for spelling words with final 'e'. Name two exceptions under each rule.
6. Give two uses of silent letters in spelling. Illustrate each.
7. Define the following prefixes and use in connection with a word: Bi, dis, mis, pre, semi, post, non, inter, mono, super.
8. Mark diacritically and divide into syllables the following, and name the sign that indicates the sound: Card, ball, mercy, sir, odd, cell, rise, blood, fare, last.
9. Use the following correctly in sentences, Cite, site, sight, fane, fain, feign, vane, vain, vein, raze, raise, rays.
10.Write 10 words frequently mispronounced and indicate pronunciation by use of diacritical marks and by syllabication.
Geography (Time, one hour)
1. What is climate? Upon what does climate depend?
2. How do you account for the extremes of climate in Kansas?
3. Of what use are rivers? Of what use is the ocean?
4. Describe the mountains of N.A.
5. Name and describe the following: Monrovia, Odessa, Denver, Manitoba, Hecla, Yukon, St. Helena, Juan Fermandez, Aspinwall and Orinoco.
6. Name and locate the principal trade centers of the U.S.
7. Name all the republics of Europe and give capital of each.
8. Why is the Atlantic Coast colder than the Pacific in the same latitude?
9. Describe the process by which the water of the ocean returns to the sources of rivers.
10.Describe the movements of the earth. Give inclination of the earth.
The top of the test states > "EXAMINATION GRADUATION QUESTIONS OF SALINE COUNTY, KANSAS
April 13, 1895 J.W. Armstrong, County Superintendent.Examinations at Salina, New Cambria, Gypsum City, Assaria, Falun, Bavaria, and District No. 74 (in Glendale Twp.)"
According to the Smoky Valley Genealogy Society, Salina, Kansas "this test is the original eighth-grade final exam for 1895 from Salina, KS. An interesting note is the fact that county students taking this test were allowed to take the test in the 7th grade, and if they did not pass the test at that time, they were allowed to re-take it again in the 8th grade.

If you took Algebra in high school and have no exposure to it since then, I can devise a test that every one of my students would pass, but you would likely score a zero. You were probably educated just as well as they were, but you didn't retain the information.

This means exactly nothing.

 

[radical right]

Early form of teaching to the test?

And of giving the same exact test twice.

 

[RWNJ]

Does anyone even know how many parts of speech there are? Can you name the ones that have no modifiers?

 

[usmbguest5318]

That they cannot is somewhat silly. By the time one gets to college, rote and "unaided recall" recitation of, well, anything, is no longer required; consistent application of the "rules," definitions and whatnot that one learned prior to getting to college is what matters.

Some of the questions on that test are appropriate to a high school graduate's body of knowledge that can be called upon for rote recitation, and I suspect most or all high school grads can correctly answer them. Others are absurd to ask anyone who's graduated from high school to answer. For instance:

• Examples of what one expects of a high school graduate:
  • "Write a composition of about 150 words and show therein that you understand the practical use of the rules of grammar."
  • "Of what use are rivers? Of what use is the ocean?"
  • "If a load of wheat weighs 3942 lbs., what is it worth at 50cts. per bu, deducting 1050 lbs. for tare?"
    
  • "What are the Principal Parts of a verb? Give Principal Parts of do, lie, lay and run."
• A question that is silly to expect someone beyond the eight grade to regurgitate:
  • "Give four substitutes for caret 'u'."
    
  • "Name events connected with the following dates: 1607, 1620, 1800, 1849, and 1865?
    
  • "Tell what you can of the history of Kansas."
    
    [Who that doesn't live and go to school in Kansas would much about the history of Kansas? The prehistoric inland ocean depositing all sorts of dead creatures and plants combined with glaciation pushing earth so that in Kansas, as far as the eye can see, the eye can see, exploring conquistadors, the Santa Fe Trail, John Brown, and Dodge City and its cast of characters...beyond that, what do most folks know about Kansas' history?]

 

[RWNJ]

That they cannot is somewhat silly. By the time one gets to college, rote and "unaided recall" recitation of, well, anything, is no longer required; consistent application of the "rules," definitions and whatnot that one learned prior to getting to college is what matters.

Some of the questions on that test are appropriate to a high school graduate's body of knowledge that can be called upon for rote recitation, and I suspect most or all high school grads can correctly answer them. Others are absurd to ask anyone who's graduated from high school to answer. For instance:

• Examples of what one expects of a high school graduate:
  • "Write a composition of about 150 words and show therein that you understand the practical use of the rules of grammar."
  • "Of what use are rivers? Of what use is the ocean?"
  • "If a load of wheat weighs 3942 lbs., what is it worth at 50cts. per bu, deducting 1050 lbs. for tare?"
    
  • "What are the Principal Parts of a verb? Give Principal Parts of do, lie, lay and run."
• A question that is silly to expect someone beyond the eight grade to regurgitate:
  • "Give four substitutes for caret 'u'."
    
  • "Name events connected with the following dates: 1607, 1620, 1800, 1849, and 1865?
    
  • "Tell what you can of the history of Kansas."
    
    [Who that doesn't live and go to school in Kansas would much about the history of Kansas? The prehistoric inland ocean depositing all sorts of dead creatures and plants combined with glaciation pushing earth so that in Kansas, as far as the eye can see, the eye can see, exploring conquistadors, the Santa Fe Trail, John Brown, and Dodge City and its cast of characters...beyond that, what do most folks know about Kansas' history?]

That's nice. But I asked about the parts of speech, and which ones have no modifiers. Can you answer it without looking it up?

 

[usmbguest5318]

That they cannot is somewhat silly. By the time one gets to college, rote and "unaided recall" recitation of, well, anything, is no longer required; consistent application of the "rules," definitions and whatnot that one learned prior to getting to college is what matters.

Some of the questions on that test are appropriate to a high school graduate's body of knowledge that can be called upon for rote recitation, and I suspect most or all high school grads can correctly answer them. Others are absurd to ask anyone who's graduated from high school to answer. For instance:

• Examples of what one expects of a high school graduate:
  • "Write a composition of about 150 words and show therein that you understand the practical use of the rules of grammar."
  • "Of what use are rivers? Of what use is the ocean?"
  • "If a load of wheat weighs 3942 lbs., what is it worth at 50cts. per bu, deducting 1050 lbs. for tare?"
    
  • "What are the Principal Parts of a verb? Give Principal Parts of do, lie, lay and run."
• A question that is silly to expect someone beyond the eight grade to regurgitate:
  • "Give four substitutes for caret 'u'."
    
  • "Name events connected with the following dates: 1607, 1620, 1800, 1849, and 1865?
    
  • "Tell what you can of the history of Kansas."
    
    [Who that doesn't live and go to school in Kansas would much about the history of Kansas? The prehistoric inland ocean depositing all sorts of dead creatures and plants combined with glaciation pushing earth so that in Kansas, as far as the eye can see, the eye can see, exploring conquistadors, the Santa Fe Trail, John Brown, and Dodge City and its cast of characters...beyond that, what do most folks know about Kansas' history?]

That's nice. But I asked about the parts of speech, and which ones have no modifiers. Can you answer it without looking it up?

OT:
What I don't know without looking it up is how old eight graders generally are. I do, however, know that it's surely younger than you, yet the maturity you've shown in deigning to ask of me or any other 21st century adult the questions on that test is well below that of a great many late 19th century or 21st century adults.I didn't inquire whether you knew the answers to any of the questions. I didn't ask because pass the that test or not, damn near everything you write passess only for yet more insipidity.

And, yes, imbecile, I can answer the question you asked without looking it up. Articles, pronouns, conjunctions, interjections and prepositions have no modifiers. (Edit: Or at least they didn't in 1895. I suppose these days some people might attempt to append modifiers to them, perhaps to be funny or emphatic.) Nouns, verbs, adjectives and adverbs do. I dare say that most readers have by now recognized that I never succumb to using personal pronouns, namely "you," as an alternative to the impersonal pronoun "one." There's a reason I don't. Maybe you should look it up.

Alas, what you have and continue to miss, in spite of my having tried to make it no longer be so, at least with regard to the matter of 1985 Salinas, KS test questions and answers, is that by even asking people to answer the question, you prove once again that you are an irredeemably boring unfortunate occurrence of unprotected intercourse. Be that as it may, carry on....

 

[RWNJ]

That they cannot is somewhat silly. By the time one gets to college, rote and "unaided recall" recitation of, well, anything, is no longer required; consistent application of the "rules," definitions and whatnot that one learned prior to getting to college is what matters.

Some of the questions on that test are appropriate to a high school graduate's body of knowledge that can be called upon for rote recitation, and I suspect most or all high school grads can correctly answer them. Others are absurd to ask anyone who's graduated from high school to answer. For instance:

• Examples of what one expects of a high school graduate:
  • "Write a composition of about 150 words and show therein that you understand the practical use of the rules of grammar."
  • "Of what use are rivers? Of what use is the ocean?"
  • "If a load of wheat weighs 3942 lbs., what is it worth at 50cts. per bu, deducting 1050 lbs. for tare?"
    
  • "What are the Principal Parts of a verb? Give Principal Parts of do, lie, lay and run."
• A question that is silly to expect someone beyond the eight grade to regurgitate:
  • "Give four substitutes for caret 'u'."
    
  • "Name events connected with the following dates: 1607, 1620, 1800, 1849, and 1865?
    
  • "Tell what you can of the history of Kansas."
    
    [Who that doesn't live and go to school in Kansas would much about the history of Kansas? The prehistoric inland ocean depositing all sorts of dead creatures and plants combined with glaciation pushing earth so that in Kansas, as far as the eye can see, the eye can see, exploring conquistadors, the Santa Fe Trail, John Brown, and Dodge City and its cast of characters...beyond that, what do most folks know about Kansas' history?]

That's nice. But I asked about the parts of speech, and which ones have no modifiers. Can you answer it without looking it up?

OT:
What I don't know without looking it up is how old eight graders generally are. I do, however, know that it's surely younger than you, yet the maturity you've shown in deigning to ask of me or any other 21st century adult the questions on that test is well below that of a great many late 19th century or 21st century adults.I didn't inquire whether you knew the answers to any of the questions. I didn't ask because pass the that test or not, damn near everything you write passess only for yet more insipidity.

And, yes, imbecile, I can answer the question you asked without looking it up. Articles, pronouns, conjunctions, interjections and prepositions have no modifiers. (Edit: Or at least they didn't in 1895. I suppose these days some people might attempt to append modifiers to them, perhaps to be funny or emphatic.) Nouns, verbs, adjectives and adverbs do. I dare say that most readers have by now recognized that I never succumb to using personal pronouns, namely "you," as an alternative to the impersonal pronoun "one." There's a reason I don't. Maybe you should look it up.

Alas, what you have and continue to miss, in spite of my having tried to make it no longer be so, at least with regard to the matter of 1985 Salinas, KS test questions and answers, is that by even asking people to answer the question, you prove once again that you are an irredeemably boring unfortunate occurrence of unprotected intercourse. Be that as it may, carry on....

At least you know that there are nine parts of speech. Many textbooks, and college students, only list eight. And why did you feel the need to insult me? Can't you discuss something without using insults? Especially when I never insulted you.

 

[usmbguest5318]

That they cannot is somewhat silly. By the time one gets to college, rote and "unaided recall" recitation of, well, anything, is no longer required; consistent application of the "rules," definitions and whatnot that one learned prior to getting to college is what matters.

Some of the questions on that test are appropriate to a high school graduate's body of knowledge that can be called upon for rote recitation, and I suspect most or all high school grads can correctly answer them. Others are absurd to ask anyone who's graduated from high school to answer. For instance:

• Examples of what one expects of a high school graduate:
  • "Write a composition of about 150 words and show therein that you understand the practical use of the rules of grammar."
  • "Of what use are rivers? Of what use is the ocean?"
  • "If a load of wheat weighs 3942 lbs., what is it worth at 50cts. per bu, deducting 1050 lbs. for tare?"
    
  • "What are the Principal Parts of a verb? Give Principal Parts of do, lie, lay and run."
• A question that is silly to expect someone beyond the eight grade to regurgitate:
  • "Give four substitutes for caret 'u'."
    
  • "Name events connected with the following dates: 1607, 1620, 1800, 1849, and 1865?
    
  • "Tell what you can of the history of Kansas."
    
    [Who that doesn't live and go to school in Kansas would much about the history of Kansas? The prehistoric inland ocean depositing all sorts of dead creatures and plants combined with glaciation pushing earth so that in Kansas, as far as the eye can see, the eye can see, exploring conquistadors, the Santa Fe Trail, John Brown, and Dodge City and its cast of characters...beyond that, what do most folks know about Kansas' history?]

That's nice. But I asked about the parts of speech, and which ones have no modifiers. Can you answer it without looking it up?

OT:
What I don't know without looking it up is how old eight graders generally are. I do, however, know that it's surely younger than you, yet the maturity you've shown in deigning to ask of me or any other 21st century adult the questions on that test is well below that of a great many late 19th century or 21st century adults.I didn't inquire whether you knew the answers to any of the questions. I didn't ask because pass the that test or not, damn near everything you write passess only for yet more insipidity.

And, yes, imbecile, I can answer the question you asked without looking it up. Articles, pronouns, conjunctions, interjections and prepositions have no modifiers. (Edit: Or at least they didn't in 1895. I suppose these days some people might attempt to append modifiers to them, perhaps to be funny or emphatic.) Nouns, verbs, adjectives and adverbs do. I dare say that most readers have by now recognized that I never succumb to using personal pronouns, namely "you," as an alternative to the impersonal pronoun "one." There's a reason I don't. Maybe you should look it up.

Alas, what you have and continue to miss, in spite of my having tried to make it no longer be so, at least with regard to the matter of 1985 Salinas, KS test questions and answers, is that by even asking people to answer the question, you prove once again that you are an irredeemably boring unfortunate occurrence of unprotected intercourse. Be that as it may, carry on....

At least you know that there are nine parts of speech. Many textbooks, and college students, only list eight. And why did you feel the need to insult me? Can't you discuss something without using insults? Especially when I never insulted you.

why did you feel the need to insult me?

Because you earned it.

 

[RWNJ]

That they cannot is somewhat silly. By the time one gets to college, rote and "unaided recall" recitation of, well, anything, is no longer required; consistent application of the "rules," definitions and whatnot that one learned prior to getting to college is what matters.

Some of the questions on that test are appropriate to a high school graduate's body of knowledge that can be called upon for rote recitation, and I suspect most or all high school grads can correctly answer them. Others are absurd to ask anyone who's graduated from high school to answer. For instance:

• Examples of what one expects of a high school graduate:
  • "Write a composition of about 150 words and show therein that you understand the practical use of the rules of grammar."
  • "Of what use are rivers? Of what use is the ocean?"
  • "If a load of wheat weighs 3942 lbs., what is it worth at 50cts. per bu, deducting 1050 lbs. for tare?"
    
  • "What are the Principal Parts of a verb? Give Principal Parts of do, lie, lay and run."
• A question that is silly to expect someone beyond the eight grade to regurgitate:
  • "Give four substitutes for caret 'u'."
    
  • "Name events connected with the following dates: 1607, 1620, 1800, 1849, and 1865?
    
  • "Tell what you can of the history of Kansas."
    
    [Who that doesn't live and go to school in Kansas would much about the history of Kansas? The prehistoric inland ocean depositing all sorts of dead creatures and plants combined with glaciation pushing earth so that in Kansas, as far as the eye can see, the eye can see, exploring conquistadors, the Santa Fe Trail, John Brown, and Dodge City and its cast of characters...beyond that, what do most folks know about Kansas' history?]

That's nice. But I asked about the parts of speech, and which ones have no modifiers. Can you answer it without looking it up?

OT:
What I don't know without looking it up is how old eight graders generally are. I do, however, know that it's surely younger than you, yet the maturity you've shown in deigning to ask of me or any other 21st century adult the questions on that test is well below that of a great many late 19th century or 21st century adults.I didn't inquire whether you knew the answers to any of the questions. I didn't ask because pass the that test or not, damn near everything you write passess only for yet more insipidity.

And, yes, imbecile, I can answer the question you asked without looking it up. Articles, pronouns, conjunctions, interjections and prepositions have no modifiers. (Edit: Or at least they didn't in 1895. I suppose these days some people might attempt to append modifiers to them, perhaps to be funny or emphatic.) Nouns, verbs, adjectives and adverbs do. I dare say that most readers have by now recognized that I never succumb to using personal pronouns, namely "you," as an alternative to the impersonal pronoun "one." There's a reason I don't. Maybe you should look it up.

Alas, what you have and continue to miss, in spite of my having tried to make it no longer be so, at least with regard to the matter of 1985 Salinas, KS test questions and answers, is that by even asking people to answer the question, you prove once again that you are an irredeemably boring unfortunate occurrence of unprotected intercourse. Be that as it may, carry on....

At least you know that there are nine parts of speech. Many textbooks, and college students, only list eight. And why did you feel the need to insult me? Can't you discuss something without using insults? Especially when I never insulted you.

why did you feel the need to insult me?

Because you earned it.

Oh. I get it. I had the nerve to disagree with you, so I deserve to be insulted. Welcome to my ignore list, punk!

 

[usmbguest5318]

That they cannot is somewhat silly. By the time one gets to college, rote and "unaided recall" recitation of, well, anything, is no longer required; consistent application of the "rules," definitions and whatnot that one learned prior to getting to college is what matters.

Some of the questions on that test are appropriate to a high school graduate's body of knowledge that can be called upon for rote recitation, and I suspect most or all high school grads can correctly answer them. Others are absurd to ask anyone who's graduated from high school to answer. For instance:

• Examples of what one expects of a high school graduate:
  • "Write a composition of about 150 words and show therein that you understand the practical use of the rules of grammar."
  • "Of what use are rivers? Of what use is the ocean?"
  • "If a load of wheat weighs 3942 lbs., what is it worth at 50cts. per bu, deducting 1050 lbs. for tare?"
    
  • "What are the Principal Parts of a verb? Give Principal Parts of do, lie, lay and run."
• A question that is silly to expect someone beyond the eight grade to regurgitate:
  • "Give four substitutes for caret 'u'."
    
  • "Name events connected with the following dates: 1607, 1620, 1800, 1849, and 1865?
    
  • "Tell what you can of the history of Kansas."
    
    [Who that doesn't live and go to school in Kansas would much about the history of Kansas? The prehistoric inland ocean depositing all sorts of dead creatures and plants combined with glaciation pushing earth so that in Kansas, as far as the eye can see, the eye can see, exploring conquistadors, the Santa Fe Trail, John Brown, and Dodge City and its cast of characters...beyond that, what do most folks know about Kansas' history?]

That's nice. But I asked about the parts of speech, and which ones have no modifiers. Can you answer it without looking it up?

OT:
What I don't know without looking it up is how old eight graders generally are. I do, however, know that it's surely younger than you, yet the maturity you've shown in deigning to ask of me or any other 21st century adult the questions on that test is well below that of a great many late 19th century or 21st century adults.I didn't inquire whether you knew the answers to any of the questions. I didn't ask because pass the that test or not, damn near everything you write passess only for yet more insipidity.

And, yes, imbecile, I can answer the question you asked without looking it up. Articles, pronouns, conjunctions, interjections and prepositions have no modifiers. (Edit: Or at least they didn't in 1895. I suppose these days some people might attempt to append modifiers to them, perhaps to be funny or emphatic.) Nouns, verbs, adjectives and adverbs do. I dare say that most readers have by now recognized that I never succumb to using personal pronouns, namely "you," as an alternative to the impersonal pronoun "one." There's a reason I don't. Maybe you should look it up.

Alas, what you have and continue to miss, in spite of my having tried to make it no longer be so, at least with regard to the matter of 1985 Salinas, KS test questions and answers, is that by even asking people to answer the question, you prove once again that you are an irredeemably boring unfortunate occurrence of unprotected intercourse. Be that as it may, carry on....

At least you know that there are nine parts of speech. Many textbooks, and college students, only list eight. And why did you feel the need to insult me? Can't you discuss something without using insults? Especially when I never insulted you.

why did you feel the need to insult me?

Because you earned it.

Oh. I get it. I had the nerve to disagree with you, so I deserve to be insulted. Welcome to my ignore list, punk!

I had the nerve to disagree with you, so I deserve to be insulted.

Well, you just keep thinking that...