More Tales Of White Supremacy And White Privilege

[Paul Essien]

I understand your anger, but that changes nothing. A natural limitation on your own intellect is indeed a bitter pill to swallow.

I'm not angry one bit.

I'm just disagreeing with you and quite frankly even you know that your not superior to black men.

 

[Meathead]

I understand your anger, but that changes nothing. A natural limitation on your own intellect is indeed a bitter pill to swallow.

I'm not angry one bit.

I'm just disagreeing with you and quite frankly even you know that your not superior to black men.

FFS, you're a stereotype as much as Al Sharpton with perhaps less intellect and even less insight.

 

[Oldstyle]

Hello, Paul. Are you disputing indisputable American presidential and music history FACTS?

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Peace.

I'm saying white people are and have been the biggest thugs ever to walk the earth.

Now do you fancy challenging me on this ?

Challenge what? Your opinion? To be quite blunt, Paul...who are you to have an opinion that even needs to be "challenged"? You cut and spam a lot of nonsense from places like Huffington Post and appear to completely ignorant about much of what's going on in the world around you!

 

[Oldstyle]

No. That's not what I'm claiming. I didn't say gangster rap happened because black rappers tried to cater to white boys. I'm saying gangster rap and hip hop in general is maintained by white people because they are most of the buyers.

Paul, I believe you are referring to a large population of white or American citizens of Euro-descent TOTALLY RESPONSIBLE for creating, funding, maintaining and then WILLFULLY IGNORING America's *CHILD CARE* PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS, aka America's potentially life scarring SYSTEMIC & GENERATIONAL Culture of Black or African American Child Abuse, Emotional Neglect, Abandonment and Maltreatment evolving from America's multi-generational, ignorant, once legal Culture of Racism!

I am referring to a Culture of Child Abuse, Emotional Neglect, Abandonment and Maltreatment responsible for popular American urban story-TRUTH-tellers and 'Childhood Trauma' (#ACEs) victims the late Tupac Shakur (born 1971) and Mr. Barack "My Brother's Keeper" Obama White House guest and friend Kendrick Lamar (born 1987) vividly describing in their American art and interviews the "T.H.U.G.L.I.F.E." and "Good Kid, m.A.A.d. City" Child Abuse Cultures prevalent in far too many American communities.

I am referring to a Culture of Systemic and Generational CHILD ABUSE that THROUGH NO FAULT OF THEIR OWN, deprived Tupac and Kendrick, their childhood friends, as well as many of their elementary and JHS classmates from experiencing a SAFE, fairly or wonderfully happy American kid childhood.

Sadly, the traumatic, potentially life-scarring Criminal Child Abuse and Emotional Abandonment each of these men speaks about experiencing during a critical period of human/childhood development, resulted with them maturing into emotionally ill adults revealing in public they’ve been experiencing acute depression as well as Suic*dal Thoughts for most of their lives.

The same Culture of African American Child Abuse, Neglect and Maltreatment that for near 40 years has been inspiring significant numbers of popular urban story-TRUTH-tellers to compose and promote American music art HATEFULLY informing our world that American girls, women and MOTHERS of African descent should be viewed as less than human *itches, *hores, 'hoes' or "THOTS" unworthy of being treated with basic human respect. (THOT = "That Hoe Over There")

Unfortunately, it's plainly evident Kendrick, Tupac as well as untold numbers of American children are being raised, nurtured and socialized by moms experiencing some type of illness preventing and impeding them from embracing and following their innate, natural maternal instinct to protect their child or children from harm.

Paul, perhaps I'm wrong but *something* is preventing significant numbers of black or American moms of African descent from recognizing that placing ABOVE ALL ELSE the emotional well being of our Nation's most precious and cherished assets, will most likely result with a fairly or wonderfully happy child maturing into a reasonably responsible teen and adult citizen caring about their own well being (*May 18, 2015 - Rise in Suic!de by Black Children Surprises Researchers - The New York Times*), as well as embracing compassion, empathy and respect for their peaceful or less fortunate neighbors.

If I have incorrectly stated facts, please PROVE ME WRONG!

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Peace.

Once again when you debate systematic white supremacy with me then the blame is not going to be shifted from white people to black people. I don't know how more clear I can make this. But you still don't seem to get it.

I say very clearly. The past and present and future of black people concern me the most and in that history white ppl and the system of white supremacy has been the main evil.

So AveryJarhman you can type away all you like and post pics up all you like, it wont be read by me that's for sure. Because your not gonna move the argument from what whites do to what you think blacks do.

So why are you even here? You're unwilling to listen to anyone else's point of view and your own point of view is nothing more than talking points you cut and paste from sites that are laughably biased. You're not very bright, Paul and it shows more and more with each subsequent post you make! You're the kind of person that black leaders who have failed miserably to address issues in the black community use to divert attention away from those failures! The kind of idiot that marches in Baltimore to protest police brutality against blacks when the Mayor is black, the Police Chief is black, the District Attorney is black and the officer in charge at the scene is black! You want to see how easily led people like you let black leaders off the hook? Look no further than the case of Freddie Gray!

 

[MizMolly]

Paul Essien replied to AveryJ, "I'm saying white people are and have been the biggest thugs ever to walk the earth.

Now do you fancy challenging me on this"

Frankly, Paul Essien, I'm not inclined to challenge or become involved in a discussion with apparent PRO BLACK minded fellow citizens I sincerely believe are experiencing mental illness.

Especially apparent emotionally troubled citizens like yourself who've created a track-record for repeatedly dodging my questions, as well as our fellow USMB member's questions.

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"Mental illness in Black Communities" Published on Nov 10, 2010 www dawsondenise com


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"How Black Community's Ignorance of Mental Illness Almost Killed Me" ~Law of Polaris -North Star-



Peace.

I'm not going to allow you to set the agenda.

You are like Oldstyle and MizMolly and captkaos in that your attention always appears to be skewed in one direction.

Black people.

Yes by all means have the discussion about why so many black people appear to be caught up in perceived negative social and economic disorders.

But if you are also not prepared to focus the same attention discussing the perceived causes, (i.e racism and it's affects) then you're either being disingenuous or not really serious.

Also you make the mistake of assuming that I am trying to persuade you.

I'm not.

Persuading whites to give up the benefits of racism is way beyond my powers.

I write about white people and racism in USMB for my own understanding.

But for some reason you and others expect the likes me and IM2 and NewsVine_Mariyam to write to their point of view

As if there are not enough people doing that already.

But then again ? Who can blame them ? Most of the things are written to their POV.

• Less than 22% of the world is white.
• Less than 11% of the world is white and male.
• Less than 2.3% of the world is white, male and speaks English.

And that 2.3% of that world has a limited racist view on things.

Yet they run the BBC, CNN, New York Times, Harvard, Oxford and Cambridge. They own Twitter, Facbook, Insta, Harper Collins and Penguin books. They write most of the Hollywood films and Wikipedia articles. They even own BET.

So it's very dangerous of being overly dependent on any one part of the world for your knowledge of the world as a whole.

If a white person posts about their experiences with black people, they are called liars

Paul Essien replied to AveryJ, "I'm saying white people are and have been the biggest thugs ever to walk the earth.

Now do you fancy challenging me on this"

Frankly, Paul Essien, I'm not inclined to challenge or become involved in a discussion with apparent PRO BLACK minded fellow citizens I sincerely believe are experiencing mental illness.

Especially apparent emotionally troubled citizens like yourself who've created a track-record for repeatedly dodging my questions, as well as our fellow USMB member's questions.

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"Mental illness in Black Communities" Published on Nov 10, 2010 www dawsondenise com


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"How Black Community's Ignorance of Mental Illness Almost Killed Me" ~Law of Polaris -North Star-



Peace.

I'm not going to allow you to set the agenda.

You are like Oldstyle and MizMolly and captkaos in that your attention always appears to be skewed in one direction.

Black people.

Yes by all means have the discussion about why so many black people appear to be caught up in perceived negative social and economic disorders.

But if you are also not prepared to focus the same attention discussing the perceived causes, (i.e racism and it's affects) then you're either being disingenuous or not really serious.

Also you make the mistake of assuming that I am trying to persuade you.

I'm not.

Persuading whites to give up the benefits of racism is way beyond my powers.

I write about white people and racism in USMB for my own understanding.

But for some reason you and others expect the likes me and IM2 and NewsVine_Mariyam to write to their point of view

As if there are not enough people doing that already.

But then again ? Who can blame them ? Most of the things are written to their POV.

• Less than 22% of the world is white.
• Less than 11% of the world is white and male.
• Less than 2.3% of the world is white, male and speaks English.

And that 2.3% of that world has a limited racist view on things.

Yet they run the BBC, CNN, New York Times, Harvard, Oxford and Cambridge. They own Twitter, Facbook, Insta, Harper Collins and Penguin books. They write most of the Hollywood films and Wikipedia articles. They even own BET.

So it's very dangerous of being overly dependent on any one part of the world for your knowledge of the world as a whole.

LOL YOU and IM2 and other black posters are the ones who are skewed in one direction. How dare anyone disagree with yall. If any white posters tell the black people on these boards about their negative experiences with black people, they are told they are lying, or delusional or they deserved it. Shame on yall.

 

[MizMolly]

Hey Paul do you live in1895! was your family even here in 1895. Mine wasn't my Great Grandfather immigrated here "legally" in 1902. I'm Sure The Police killed blacks in 1895 just like they probably killed Whites and others.

So you admit that many black people were killed by the police in 1895 ?

But guess what ?

More black people were killed by the police in 2015 than were killed by the police and lynched than in 1895

There are more people today. But are you also comparing apples to apples? How many INNOCENT blacks are killed by police today? There are whites killed by police today too, what is your point?

 

[MizMolly]

We can all agree now that you don't really have an original thought, you just spew the Garbage and poor me attitudes of so many on the left black and white alike get off your ass and go fight the fight against drugs and violence in the Black community that would get my attention.

Most of the distributes and suppliers of the drugs aren’t black. That is where the real money is. The black criminals are nothing but bullet fodder and a source of income for those who gain jobs in the prisons.

The distributors live in communities divorced from the street level dealers. They are almost never caught. If a black dealer, goes down, there is always another to take their place.

For every white drug dealer they apprehend, 99% get away. Plus they are not stopped as much. Hence it would appear to the people that it is mostly blacks who are committing these crimes.

For every black criminal who is incarcerated, there is many more white ones walking free, or in rehab, as the notion here is that they don’t want to ‘destroy’ a promising young person’s life.

Because of the socioeconomic deprivations of these black criminals, they will be hard pressed to find good legal representation. And in most cases we are not even talking about the hard stuff, like heroin, crack or cocaine, but marijuana – weed.

And even after they do their time they do not get to start over clean.

1) Almost no one will hire you.
2) Most professional licences are out of the question too.
3) For the first five years you cannot get public housing – just when you need it most.
4) You will never again get food stamps. And on and on.

Your life is messed up forever. So what becomes of them ? We already know : Within three years there is a 70% chance you will be back in prison.

And all this is explained away by guys like you that blacks are just low IQ savages who can't do no good, and then endless stats about 'black crime' is churned out to people who already have preconceived ideas about black people.

Which further encourages the police to target black men, lock up black men and even kill black men and cycle continues, year after year after year.

Real crime is pretty much always white. White people are the biggest criminals in USA

Russian mafia gangs and the Vory V Zakone brotherhood are white. Italian crime is exclusive white : napolitan camorra, sicilian cosa nostra mafia. Same goes with the US cosa nostra. European crime in general is white and forms a underworld web that beats street gangs easily in power, prestige and money.

How this effects any other white american and their safety ?

These real crime groups are responsible for the flow of drugs into USA. They are also players in the financial fraud scene. They smuggle weapons and supply the street criminals with weapons and drugs.

And of course, they are the ones who operate together with corrupt officials and politicians. This has been documented for decades by now. You know nothing.

It is the huge white middle and upper classes that consume casually the majority of the narcotics. They have the capital for it.

Then, there are the wall street jugglers who are also criminals and who are the main reason why the average white americans are in the deep sh*t, loose their homes, insurances.

They affect to the security of the white middle class many many times more than anyone.

Hope you don't get shot stabbed robbed or raped in your quest to eliminate these issues in black communities and housing projects forced on you by the Libs who want to keep you dependent on the Govt. for your survival.

I notice you running your mouth about so called black crime never mention white gang crime. Yet from the 1920’s up to not white crime was the absolutely biggest crime in the USA and one of the biggest in the world.

At its peak Mafia (Cosa Nostra) had some 3000 to 4000 members. Most of those guys had killed at least one individual. They had to. You do not enter this organisation without participating in a murder. Later it became enough to participate in murder, chop up the body, help to kill the victim by holding or setting up the actual murder.

That alone puts the number of their murder victims in thousands. Even when some members did not personally killed anybody others did by dozens. In Cosa Nostra there were dozens of guys who killed up twenty guys and many who had killed even more than that.

And that number is just their murders and just by the Italian American crime. This does not include murders committed by their associates and non-members who were and are involved in that business.

Add to this the drug trade which they have had a huge say in since the 1930’s.

How many people died during those decades from over doses and other drug related reasons?

Thousands at least.

The drug trade by white organized crime destroyed dozens of black neighbourhoods all across the USA from New York to Detroit, to Chicago to LA. And that was nothing? Nothing criminal?

Add to that the massive commercial thievery, lone sharking, gambling, numbers, prostitution, porn, labour unions, corruption of politicians, judges, judicial systems in several cities, Hollywood and forgery, robberies, transportation, fashion industry, clothing industry, waste management etc.

There has never been any rule in Sicilian mafia that bans killing of women and children.

If they have to be murdered, then they have to be. It doesn’t matter how young a child is or who the woman is, if they are the ones who have to be killed, they will be. Any method will do: acid bath, fire, shooting, strangulation, knifing, bombs.

The murder is the message.

It is very funny how you promoting the idea of black criminality somehow forget all that

You tend to leave out that most VIOLENT crime is NOT committed by whites.

 

[sealybobo]

I understand your anger, but that changes nothing. A natural limitation on your own intellect is indeed a bitter pill to swallow.

I'm not angry one bit.

I'm just disagreeing with you and quite frankly even you know that your not superior to black men.

He’s Greek. All us Greek men feel superior to the rest of humanity. We invented so much. Democracy for example. Plato, Socrates, assrapeagus.

But I assume you have the same pride about being black. Hell, we were all black once. I do find it amazing that Chinese people came from Africans but that’s what they say. You guys invented the wheel and language. You guys figured out how to be top predator. Lions tigers and bears didn’t mess with you. We owe you our start.

And really what have the Greeks done since.

We only make up maybe 2% of the American population. We are the true minority. Lol

And the Turks enslaved us longer than you were slaves in America. Did you know that?

 

[sealybobo]

We can all agree now that you don't really have an original thought, you just spew the Garbage and poor me attitudes of so many on the left black and white alike get off your ass and go fight the fight against drugs and violence in the Black community that would get my attention.

Most of the distributes and suppliers of the drugs aren’t black. That is where the real money is. The black criminals are nothing but bullet fodder and a source of income for those who gain jobs in the prisons.

The distributors live in communities divorced from the street level dealers. They are almost never caught. If a black dealer, goes down, there is always another to take their place.

For every white drug dealer they apprehend, 99% get away. Plus they are not stopped as much. Hence it would appear to the people that it is mostly blacks who are committing these crimes.

For every black criminal who is incarcerated, there is many more white ones walking free, or in rehab, as the notion here is that they don’t want to ‘destroy’ a promising young person’s life.

Because of the socioeconomic deprivations of these black criminals, they will be hard pressed to find good legal representation. And in most cases we are not even talking about the hard stuff, like heroin, crack or cocaine, but marijuana – weed.

And even after they do their time they do not get to start over clean.

1) Almost no one will hire you.
2) Most professional licences are out of the question too.
3) For the first five years you cannot get public housing – just when you need it most.
4) You will never again get food stamps. And on and on.

Your life is messed up forever. So what becomes of them ? We already know : Within three years there is a 70% chance you will be back in prison.

And all this is explained away by guys like you that blacks are just low IQ savages who can't do no good, and then endless stats about 'black crime' is churned out to people who already have preconceived ideas about black people.

Which further encourages the police to target black men, lock up black men and even kill black men and cycle continues, year after year after year.

Real crime is pretty much always white. White people are the biggest criminals in USA

Russian mafia gangs and the Vory V Zakone brotherhood are white. Italian crime is exclusive white : napolitan camorra, sicilian cosa nostra mafia. Same goes with the US cosa nostra. European crime in general is white and forms a underworld web that beats street gangs easily in power, prestige and money.

How this effects any other white american and their safety ?

These real crime groups are responsible for the flow of drugs into USA. They are also players in the financial fraud scene. They smuggle weapons and supply the street criminals with weapons and drugs.

And of course, they are the ones who operate together with corrupt officials and politicians. This has been documented for decades by now. You know nothing.

It is the huge white middle and upper classes that consume casually the majority of the narcotics. They have the capital for it.

Then, there are the wall street jugglers who are also criminals and who are the main reason why the average white americans are in the deep sh*t, loose their homes, insurances.

They affect to the security of the white middle class many many times more than anyone.

Hope you don't get shot stabbed robbed or raped in your quest to eliminate these issues in black communities and housing projects forced on you by the Libs who want to keep you dependent on the Govt. for your survival.

I notice you running your mouth about so called black crime never mention white gang crime. Yet from the 1920’s up to not white crime was the absolutely biggest crime in the USA and one of the biggest in the world.

At its peak Mafia (Cosa Nostra) had some 3000 to 4000 members. Most of those guys had killed at least one individual. They had to. You do not enter this organisation without participating in a murder. Later it became enough to participate in murder, chop up the body, help to kill the victim by holding or setting up the actual murder.

That alone puts the number of their murder victims in thousands. Even when some members did not personally killed anybody others did by dozens. In Cosa Nostra there were dozens of guys who killed up twenty guys and many who had killed even more than that.

And that number is just their murders and just by the Italian American crime. This does not include murders committed by their associates and non-members who were and are involved in that business.

Add to this the drug trade which they have had a huge say in since the 1930’s.

How many people died during those decades from over doses and other drug related reasons?

Thousands at least.

The drug trade by white organized crime destroyed dozens of black neighbourhoods all across the USA from New York to Detroit, to Chicago to LA. And that was nothing? Nothing criminal?

Add to that the massive commercial thievery, lone sharking, gambling, numbers, prostitution, porn, labour unions, corruption of politicians, judges, judicial systems in several cities, Hollywood and forgery, robberies, transportation, fashion industry, clothing industry, waste management etc.

There has never been any rule in Sicilian mafia that bans killing of women and children.

If they have to be murdered, then they have to be. It doesn’t matter how young a child is or who the woman is, if they are the ones who have to be killed, they will be. Any method will do: acid bath, fire, shooting, strangulation, knifing, bombs.

The murder is the message.

It is very funny how you promoting the idea of black criminality somehow forget all that

You tend to leave out that most VIOLENT crime is NOT committed by whites.

I wish we could come to an agreement with blacks regarding this.

There is a difference between the violent crimes we commit. We need to figure out why so many white men are mass murdering.

But a lot of our crime is personal. Maybe a guy is beating his wife. That’s a violent crime that’s happening in my neighborhood but it doesn’t make my neighborhood unsafe. Know what I mean?

In a black neighborhood you as a stranger has to worry about some criminal spotting and praying on you.

Thus white crime doesn’t make the neighborhood safe. We kill our parents for their money. We don’t break into your house and bind torture and kill you, oh wait. I forgot about BTK.

 

[captkaos]

No. That's not what I'm claiming. I didn't say gangster rap happened because black rappers tried to cater to white boys. I'm saying gangster rap and hip hop in general is maintained by white people because they are most of the buyers.

Paul, I believe you are referring to a large population of white or American citizens of Euro-descent TOTALLY RESPONSIBLE for creating, funding, maintaining and then WILLFULLY IGNORING America's *CHILD CARE* PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS, aka America's potentially life scarring SYSTEMIC & GENERATIONAL Culture of Black or African American Child Abuse, Emotional Neglect, Abandonment and Maltreatment evolving from America's multi-generational, ignorant, once legal Culture of Racism!

I am referring to a Culture of Child Abuse, Emotional Neglect, Abandonment and Maltreatment responsible for popular American urban story-TRUTH-tellers and 'Childhood Trauma' (#ACEs) victims the late Tupac Shakur (born 1971) and Mr. Barack "My Brother's Keeper" Obama White House guest and friend Kendrick Lamar (born 1987) vividly describing in their American art and interviews the "T.H.U.G.L.I.F.E." and "Good Kid, m.A.A.d. City" Child Abuse Cultures prevalent in far too many American communities.

I am referring to a Culture of Systemic and Generational CHILD ABUSE that THROUGH NO FAULT OF THEIR OWN, deprived Tupac and Kendrick, their childhood friends, as well as many of their elementary and JHS classmates from experiencing a SAFE, fairly or wonderfully happy American kid childhood.

Sadly, the traumatic, potentially life-scarring Criminal Child Abuse and Emotional Abandonment each of these men speaks about experiencing during a critical period of human/childhood development, resulted with them maturing into emotionally ill adults revealing in public they’ve been experiencing acute depression as well as Suic*dal Thoughts for most of their lives.

The same Culture of African American Child Abuse, Neglect and Maltreatment that for near 40 years has been inspiring significant numbers of popular urban story-TRUTH-tellers to compose and promote American music art HATEFULLY informing our world that American girls, women and MOTHERS of African descent should be viewed as less than human *itches, *hores, 'hoes' or "THOTS" unworthy of being treated with basic human respect. (THOT = "That Hoe Over There")

Unfortunately, it's plainly evident Kendrick, Tupac as well as untold numbers of American children are being raised, nurtured and socialized by moms experiencing some type of illness preventing and impeding them from embracing and following their innate, natural maternal instinct to protect their child or children from harm.

Paul, perhaps I'm wrong but *something* is preventing significant numbers of black or American moms of African descent from recognizing that placing ABOVE ALL ELSE the emotional well being of our Nation's most precious and cherished assets, will most likely result with a fairly or wonderfully happy child maturing into a reasonably responsible teen and adult citizen caring about their own well being (*May 18, 2015 - Rise in Suic!de by Black Children Surprises Researchers - The New York Times*), as well as embracing compassion, empathy and respect for their peaceful or less fortunate neighbors.

If I have incorrectly stated facts, please PROVE ME WRONG!

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Peace.

Once again when you debate systematic white supremacy with me then the blame is not going to be shifted from white people to black people. I don't know how more clear I can make this. But you still don't seem to get it.

I say very clearly. The past and present and future of black people concern me the most and in that history white ppl and the system of white supremacy has been the main evil.

So AveryJarhman you can type away all you like and post pics up all you like, it wont be read by me that's for sure. Because your not gonna move the argument from what whites do to what you think blacks do.

Do you even realize that Blacks are Human trafficking your own people in Africa and here in the US. FACT: people are cruel to each other more so to people of a different race some predatory types prey on their own when people of the same race are kept confined and grouped together as in projects and ghettos. The predators take over and destroy hope in the community for their own gain. Go fight the good fight and come back in a month and tell us all the good you've done for the black community then maybe we'll take you seriously otherwise

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

It is not a matter of skin color. Sin color is indeed superficial to intelligence. It is a matter of races which have adapted to survive in their environoment over millenia. People who had to survive in harsh conditions, those who went to sea and those that developed pastoral cultures which resulted in civilizations had different needs to stay alive than foragers and hunter-gatherers in tropical surroundings.

Your arguments are so predictable, I should never really respond to them, but then I forget that sometimes a response is necessary, not for you but for other people to see the counter points.

This idea I've heard plenty of times that idea that white people are born with more intelligence than blacks because they come from a long line of people who lived through thousands of unforgiving winters in the cold, cruel north.

Unlike blacks, who lived in Africa where you can sit under a tree all day and eat bananas.

But race is gradient. Right ?

And if higher latitudes and colder temperatures increase intelligence. Right ? Then Siberians, Eskimos, Inuit’s or Patagonians should be have the most highly evolved intelligence as they live in the higher latitudes and coldest places ?

But who ever says that ?

You have no idea what the climate was like in either Africa or Europe at the time that migration began. You assume that the world looked much as it does today. Yet, anyone who’s taken high-school biology knows that the fossil record shows that tropical fossils exist in places as far north as Greenland, and as far south as Antarctica.

http://www.gi.alaska.edu/ScienceForum/ASF1/188.html
http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2009/0...le-fossil.html

You don’t even know if Europe was appreciably colder than Africa at the time. You don’t know how long Europe has been colder than Africa, in fact, you have no idea what the actual primeval conditions and challenges were in either place at the time. You are not even good at playing amateur scientist.

A lot of people like you believe cold-climates enabled people who are now more closely related to Caucasians and mongoloids to develop tools. One of those tools was a bigger brain, higher cognitive ability, and better visio-spatial skill. Yet, as we see in the archaeological record that Cro-Magnon, who had just — evolutionary time-scale speaking — left Africa for northern climates basically out-adapted Neanderthals, winning against them in competition for territory, for game, and in basic warfare.

This has been shown in the archaeological record from various grave sites, and burial grounds where neanderthal bodies have had wounds in them, as well as remains of Cro-Magnon sites in territories that were previously inhabited by Neanderthals. So despite being adapted to cold climates for a longer period of time, Neanderthals were unable to compete or out-survive Cro-Magnons, who had less time to adapt to the colder climates.

Also the so called 'classical civilizations' that you learnt about in school began in tropical mediterranean and equatorial climates. The Aztecs, Mayans, Sumerians, Babylonians, Indus Valley, Egyptian, Greek, Roman, and Shang Dynasty (which is the farthest, or one of the farthest, north).

Notably, only two of these are European, and only one is really that far north relatively speaking. Even going further back in history, the most advanced civilizations (from your western perspective) haven’t really been western civilizations in far northern climates.

The only western civilizations that were very advanced comparatively/overall were the Greeks and Romans.

If you want to go up to the Renaissance-era which was when Europe regained much of the knowledge it lost in the aftermath of the Roman Empire’s collapse, the most advanced civilizations were STILL not from anywhere in the northern climates. In fact, the Ottoman empire and also the Byzantines till the Ottoman’s destroyed them) was the most advanced in mathematics, science, and medicine, as well as the largest preserver of written knowledge at the time.

(Again, I’m speaking from the Western historical perspective, since that’s where you are in this debate dealing with White people supposedly being smarter because they’re from cold-climates.

Intelligence is not the natural result of fighting cold weather (or any other change in climate or terrain).

What does one really have to do to fight the cold ?

1) Live in a big cave, all together and huddle around a fire, instead of building your own villages or small cities.

2) Rely on hunting of large animals (red meat) more than on developing large-scale agriculture, because of the long winters.

3) Rely heavily on skinning animal to provide warm clothing, rather than focusing on the intricate weaving and the dying of finer textiles.

The reality is that science by and large, over a long period of time has shown this idea connecting cold-climate or race with intelligence to be wrong.

I understand your anger, but that changes nothing. A natural limitation on your own intellect is indeed a bitter pill to swallow.

Interesting. How many of you all did it take to take on just Paul?

 

[keepitreal]

I'm saying white people are and have been the biggest thugs ever to walk the earth.

Now do you fancy challenging me on this ?

Do you fancy dealing with it any time soon?

 

[IM2]

No. That's not what I'm claiming. I didn't say gangster rap happened because black rappers tried to cater to white boys. I'm saying gangster rap and hip hop in general is maintained by white people because they are most of the buyers.

Paul, I believe you are referring to a large population of white or American citizens of Euro-descent TOTALLY RESPONSIBLE for creating, funding, maintaining and then WILLFULLY IGNORING America's *CHILD CARE* PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS, aka America's potentially life scarring SYSTEMIC & GENERATIONAL Culture of Black or African American Child Abuse, Emotional Neglect, Abandonment and Maltreatment evolving from America's multi-generational, ignorant, once legal Culture of Racism!

I am referring to a Culture of Child Abuse, Emotional Neglect, Abandonment and Maltreatment responsible for popular American urban story-TRUTH-tellers and 'Childhood Trauma' (#ACEs) victims the late Tupac Shakur (born 1971) and Mr. Barack "My Brother's Keeper" Obama White House guest and friend Kendrick Lamar (born 1987) vividly describing in their American art and interviews the "T.H.U.G.L.I.F.E." and "Good Kid, m.A.A.d. City" Child Abuse Cultures prevalent in far too many American communities.

I am referring to a Culture of Systemic and Generational CHILD ABUSE that THROUGH NO FAULT OF THEIR OWN, deprived Tupac and Kendrick, their childhood friends, as well as many of their elementary and JHS classmates from experiencing a SAFE, fairly or wonderfully happy American kid childhood.

Sadly, the traumatic, potentially life-scarring Criminal Child Abuse and Emotional Abandonment each of these men speaks about experiencing during a critical period of human/childhood development, resulted with them maturing into emotionally ill adults revealing in public they’ve been experiencing acute depression as well as Suic*dal Thoughts for most of their lives.

The same Culture of African American Child Abuse, Neglect and Maltreatment that for near 40 years has been inspiring significant numbers of popular urban story-TRUTH-tellers to compose and promote American music art HATEFULLY informing our world that American girls, women and MOTHERS of African descent should be viewed as less than human *itches, *hores, 'hoes' or "THOTS" unworthy of being treated with basic human respect. (THOT = "That Hoe Over There")

Unfortunately, it's plainly evident Kendrick, Tupac as well as untold numbers of American children are being raised, nurtured and socialized by moms experiencing some type of illness preventing and impeding them from embracing and following their innate, natural maternal instinct to protect their child or children from harm.

Paul, perhaps I'm wrong but *something* is preventing significant numbers of black or American moms of African descent from recognizing that placing ABOVE ALL ELSE the emotional well being of our Nation's most precious and cherished assets, will most likely result with a fairly or wonderfully happy child maturing into a reasonably responsible teen and adult citizen caring about their own well being (*May 18, 2015 - Rise in Suic!de by Black Children Surprises Researchers - The New York Times*), as well as embracing compassion, empathy and respect for their peaceful or less fortunate neighbors.

If I have incorrectly stated facts, please PROVE ME WRONG!

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Peace.

Once again when you debate systematic white supremacy with me then the blame is not going to be shifted from white people to black people. I don't know how more clear I can make this. But you still don't seem to get it.

I say very clearly. The past and present and future of black people concern me the most and in that history white ppl and the system of white supremacy has been the main evil.

So AveryJarhman you can type away all you like and post pics up all you like, it wont be read by me that's for sure. Because your not gonna move the argument from what whites do to what you think blacks do.

Do you even realize that Blacks are Human trafficking your own people in Africa and here in the US. FACT: people are cruel to each other more so to people of a different race some predatory types prey on their own when people of the same race are kept confined and grouped together as in projects and ghettos. The predators take over and destroy hope in the community for their own gain. Go fight the good fight and come back in a month and tell us all the good you've done for the black community then maybe we'll take you seriously otherwise

And do you even realize that whites are too? Go fight the good fight and come back in a month and tell us all how you are working stop racism in the white community then maybe we'll take you seriously otherwise,

 

[Paul Essien]

Have you noticed the way white supremacist always like to talk so and so has a "black chief of police" so and so "has a black mayor" and black this or that.

But you notice they never talk about black governors

There are black governors in the USA.

When you're a governor you have real muscle.

• You have serious muscle in controlling the allocation of resources in your state.
• You have serious muscle in controlling which places get invested in.
• You have serious muscle in controlling which places don't get invested in.
• You have serious muscle in controlling the laws
• You have serious muscle in controlling which companies build where.
• You have serious muscle in controlling which roads build were.
• You have serious muscle in controlling policing in this of that area.

There are no black governors in the USA

White supremacists hire other white supremacist to be governors like Kentucky govenors (Matt Bevin) saying black kids playing chess 'not something you necessarily would have thought of'

Really ?

These white supremacist act like Chess wasn't invented in Ancient Egypt, specifically by black people. LOL The game was called Senet.

So we are to believe that these people would be fairly evaluate black job applicants, or potential tenants, or loan applicants; that somehow the racism to which they have shown would play no role in their evaluations of blk ppl in the real world?

 

[Meathead]

Have you noticed the way white supremacist always like to talk so and so has a "black chief of police" so and so "has a black mayor" and black this or that.

But you notice they never talk about black governors

There are black governors in the USA.

When you're a governor you have real muscle.

• You have serious muscle in controlling the allocation of resources in your state.
• You have serious muscle in controlling which places get invested in.
• You have serious muscle in controlling which places don't get invested in.
• You have serious muscle in controlling the laws
• You have serious muscle in controlling which companies build where.
• You have serious muscle in controlling which roads build were.
• You have serious muscle in controlling policing in this of that area.

There are no black governors in the USA

White supremacists hire other white supremacist to be governors like Kentucky govenors (Matt Bevin) saying black kids playing chess 'not something you necessarily would have thought of'

Really ?

These white supremacist act like Chess wasn't invented in Ancient Egypt, specifically by black people. LOL The game was called Senet.

So we are to believe that these people would be fairly evaluate black job applicants, or potential tenants, or loan applicants; that somehow the racism to which they have shown would play no role in their evaluations of blk ppl in the real world?

Bizarre! It's hard to envision blacks playing chess.

 

[IM2]

Have you noticed the way white supremacist always like to talk so and so has a "black chief of police" so and so "has a black mayor" and black this or that.

But you notice they never talk about black governors

There are black governors in the USA.

When you're a governor you have real muscle.

• You have serious muscle in controlling the allocation of resources in your state.
• You have serious muscle in controlling which places get invested in.
• You have serious muscle in controlling which places don't get invested in.
• You have serious muscle in controlling the laws
• You have serious muscle in controlling which companies build where.
• You have serious muscle in controlling which roads build were.
• You have serious muscle in controlling policing in this of that area.

There are no black governors in the USA

White supremacists hire other white supremacist to be governors like Kentucky govenors (Matt Bevin) saying black kids playing chess 'not something you necessarily would have thought of'

Really ?

These white supremacist act like Chess wasn't invented in Ancient Egypt, specifically by black people. LOL The game was called Senet.

So we are to believe that these people would be fairly evaluate black job applicants, or potential tenants, or loan applicants; that somehow the racism to which they have shown would play no role in their evaluations of blk ppl in the real world?

Bizarre! It's hard to envision blacks playing chess.

It's hard to envision that whites like you still exist in the year 2019.

 

[Meathead]

Have you noticed the way white supremacist always like to talk so and so has a "black chief of police" so and so "has a black mayor" and black this or that.

But you notice they never talk about black governors

There are black governors in the USA.

When you're a governor you have real muscle.

• You have serious muscle in controlling the allocation of resources in your state.
• You have serious muscle in controlling which places get invested in.
• You have serious muscle in controlling which places don't get invested in.
• You have serious muscle in controlling the laws
• You have serious muscle in controlling which companies build where.
• You have serious muscle in controlling which roads build were.
• You have serious muscle in controlling policing in this of that area.

There are no black governors in the USA

White supremacists hire other white supremacist to be governors like Kentucky govenors (Matt Bevin) saying black kids playing chess 'not something you necessarily would have thought of'

Really ?

These white supremacist act like Chess wasn't invented in Ancient Egypt, specifically by black people. LOL The game was called Senet.

So we are to believe that these people would be fairly evaluate black job applicants, or potential tenants, or loan applicants; that somehow the racism to which they have shown would play no role in their evaluations of blk ppl in the real world?

Bizarre! It's hard to envision blacks playing chess.

It's hard to envision that whites like you still exist in the year 2019.

How can the likes of you, La Paul and Asslips expect to be taken seriously?

 

[Paul Essien]

Have you noticed the way white supremacist always like to talk so and so has a "black chief of police" so and so "has a black mayor" and black this or that.

But you notice they never talk about black governors

There are black governors in the USA.

When you're a governor you have real muscle.

• You have serious muscle in controlling the allocation of resources in your state.
• You have serious muscle in controlling which places get invested in.
• You have serious muscle in controlling which places don't get invested in.
• You have serious muscle in controlling the laws
• You have serious muscle in controlling which companies build where.
• You have serious muscle in controlling which roads build were.
• You have serious muscle in controlling policing in this of that area.

There are no black governors in the USA

White supremacists hire other white supremacist to be governors like Kentucky govenors (Matt Bevin) saying black kids playing chess 'not something you necessarily would have thought of'

Really ?

These white supremacist act like Chess wasn't invented in Ancient Egypt, specifically by black people. LOL The game was called Senet.

So we are to believe that these people would be fairly evaluate black job applicants, or potential tenants, or loan applicants; that somehow the racism to which they have shown would play no role in their evaluations of blk ppl in the real world?

Bizarre! It's hard to envision blacks playing chess.

Why is it hard to envisage black people playing when black people invented chess ?

 

[IM2]

Have you noticed the way white supremacist always like to talk so and so has a "black chief of police" so and so "has a black mayor" and black this or that.

But you notice they never talk about black governors

There are black governors in the USA.

When you're a governor you have real muscle.

• You have serious muscle in controlling the allocation of resources in your state.
• You have serious muscle in controlling which places get invested in.
• You have serious muscle in controlling which places don't get invested in.
• You have serious muscle in controlling the laws
• You have serious muscle in controlling which companies build where.
• You have serious muscle in controlling which roads build were.
• You have serious muscle in controlling policing in this of that area.

There are no black governors in the USA

White supremacists hire other white supremacist to be governors like Kentucky govenors (Matt Bevin) saying black kids playing chess 'not something you necessarily would have thought of'

Really ?

These white supremacist act like Chess wasn't invented in Ancient Egypt, specifically by black people. LOL The game was called Senet.

So we are to believe that these people would be fairly evaluate black job applicants, or potential tenants, or loan applicants; that somehow the racism to which they have shown would play no role in their evaluations of blk ppl in the real world?

Bizarre! It's hard to envision blacks playing chess.

It's hard to envision that whites like you still exist in the year 2019.

How can the likes of you, La Paul and Asslips expect to be taken seriously?

Easily. Because you are scared to discuss the real facts. So until you can:

Prove when racism ended and its effects were allayed. Show, with data and peer-reviewed studies supporting your argument, when the effects of the hundreds of years of anti-Black racism from chattel slavery through Old Jim Crow leveled off. Show when the wealth expropriated during that oppression was repaid to those it was expropriated from and through. And remember, after you’ve addressed the end of anti-Black racism you’ll still have to explain when anti-Latinx, anti-Asian, anti-Arab, and anti-Native racism came to an end as well.

You're wasting bandwidth by posting racist bullshit because you are a coward.

 

[Meathead]

Have you noticed the way white supremacist always like to talk so and so has a "black chief of police" so and so "has a black mayor" and black this or that.

But you notice they never talk about black governors

There are black governors in the USA.

When you're a governor you have real muscle.

• You have serious muscle in controlling the allocation of resources in your state.
• You have serious muscle in controlling which places get invested in.
• You have serious muscle in controlling which places don't get invested in.
• You have serious muscle in controlling the laws
• You have serious muscle in controlling which companies build where.
• You have serious muscle in controlling which roads build were.
• You have serious muscle in controlling policing in this of that area.

There are no black governors in the USA

White supremacists hire other white supremacist to be governors like Kentucky govenors (Matt Bevin) saying black kids playing chess 'not something you necessarily would have thought of'

Really ?

These white supremacist act like Chess wasn't invented in Ancient Egypt, specifically by black people. LOL The game was called Senet.

So we are to believe that these people would be fairly evaluate black job applicants, or potential tenants, or loan applicants; that somehow the racism to which they have shown would play no role in their evaluations of blk ppl in the real world?

Bizarre! It's hard to envision blacks playing chess.

Why is it hard to envisage black people playing when black people invented chess ?

"Blacks inventing chess" is why no one takes you seriously. That nonsense might hold watter in some ding bat Afrocentric site, but to sell it here is absurd.