More Strong Evidence for Evolution: Anatomical Vestiges

[abu afak]

Part of science is disagreement and SERIOUS disagreement as one's life work can be destroyed in an instant.

And Creationism is NOT "Science" in any way.

In this case, it wasn't one's life work, but an un-credited and horrid cut and paste job. Possibly one's worldview. The argument for vestigial organs has been debunked. It's history.

No it hasn't.
Except on your Creationism Websites Circle Jerk.

Now, what's interesting is your evo scientists claim that our smaller jaws is due to evolution of our diet. They just went from one wrong argument to another. To the contrary, our diet hasn't evolved, but gotten worse. All the sugar, saturated fat, gmo (mutation) and processed crap has de-evolved us.

We aren't living longer, but shorter lives. Even monkeys eat better than us.

Blindingly Stupid.
Our Jaw shape changed for many reasons, including allowing for larger brains.

And we are living MUCH longer lives than our predecessors from Millions/Hundreds-of-thousands/Thousands/Hundreds of years ago
YOU MORON.
The diet may not be better in nutritional components, but calories are infinitley easier to get due to advances in the last 10K years, and people survive much longer,

Maybe it's God's showing us his wrath against evolution because removal of vestigial organs is usually painful and requires surgery.

What!
Now you unwittingly admit Vestigal Organs AND removal...concede the whole thread point!

And what "God"?
You want to talk/bluff Science, yet you introduce no-evidence-god/magic?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

And yet NO ACTUAL EVIDENCE that an Mammal has ever evolved in to two distinctly different species.

Do you have any idea how much evidence is required for something to be called a theory in science? An extremely overwhelming amount. When scientists call something a theory they are basically saying "Based on magnitudes of evidence we are 99.9999999999% sure that this is true. Elements may be updated, but we're confident that the core will never be disproven."

And yet NO ACTUAL evidence that a mammal has ever evolved in to two distinctly different species. NONE NADA ZIPPO.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

And yet NO ACTUAL EVIDENCE that an Mammal has ever evolved in to two distinctly different species.

Of course there is, and mountains of it at that.

Post it then

 

[abu afak]

And yet NO ACTUAL evidence that a mammal has ever evolved in to two distinctly different species. NONE NADA ZIPPO.

How so Goofy?
There's TONS of Evidence, from Fossils, DNA regression analysis, and of course, the thread title is very strong.
That is "ACTUAL Evidence".
You want Pictures/a shortened Time lapse video of an ape turning into a Man?
Is that, to your 60 IQ brain, the only "Actual evidence."

Most Murder convictions - "beyond a reasonable Doubt" - are on Circumstantial Evidence, NOT eyewitness accounts. In fact, the latter are notoriously un and less relaible.

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Evidence of common descent - Wikipedia

• 1 Evidence from comparative physiology and biochemistry
  • 1.1 Genetics
  • 1.2 Specific examples from comparative physiology and biochemistry
• 2 Evidence from comparative anatomy
  • 2.1 Atavisms
  • 2.2 Evolutionary developmental biology and embryonic development
  • 2.3 Homologous structures and divergent (adaptive) evolution
  • 2.4 Nested hierarchies and classification
  • 2.5 Vestigial structures
  • 2.6 Specific examples from comparative anatomy
• 3 Evidence from paleontology
  • 3.1 Fossil record
  • 3.2 Limitations
  • 3.3 Specific examples from paleontology
• 4 Evidence from biogeography
  • 4.1 Continental distribution
  • 4.2 Island biogeography
  • 4.3 Ring species
  • 4.4 Specific examples from biogeography
• 5 Evidence from selection
  • 5.1 Artificial selection and experimental evolution
  • 5.2 Invertebrates
  • 5.3 Microbes
  • 5.4 Plants and fungi
  • 5.5 Vertebrates
• 6 Evidence from speciation
  • 6.1 Fossils
  • 6.2 Invertebrates
  • 6.3 Plants
  • 6.4 Vertebrates
• 7 Evidence from coloration
  • 7.1 Mimicry and aposematism
  • 7.2 Camouflage
• 8 Evidence from mathematical modeling

IOW, you too are a raging Moron.
To have reached this point in life, with access to unlimited info..
You have utterly Failed.
You are Willfully Stupid - probably indoctrinated from Birth... Jesus-Porked.
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[RetiredGySgt]

NONE of that shows a single mammal evolved into 2 distinctly different species. NONE of it and there is NO FOSSIL evidence to support the claim either, dumb ass.

 

[abu afak]

NONE of that shows a single mammal evolved into 2 distinctly different species. NONE of it and there is NO FOSSIL evidence to support the claim either, dumb ass.

I just posted TONS of evidence
You live in denial you MORON.

**** you and your Fake god/Dog for which there is NO Evidence at all. No fossils, No DNA, no Nothing.
You lost you 12 IQ Clown
You are human garbage, probably in the right profession tho: taking orders mindlessly.
You just say "no".

You reached this point in life with access to unlimited info..
You have utterly Failed.
You are Willfully Stupid - probably indoctrinated from Birth... Jesus-Porked.
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[RetiredGySgt]

NONE of that shows a single mammal evolved into 2 distinctly different species. NONE of it and there is NO FOSSIL evidence to support the claim either, dumb ass.

I just posted TONS of evidence
You live in denial you MORON.

**** you and your Fake god/Dog for which there is NO Evidence at all. No fossils, No DNA, no Nothing.
You lost you 12 IQ Clown
You are human garbage, probably in the right profession tho: taking orders mindlessly.
You just say "no".

You reached this point in life with access to unlimited info..
You have utterly Failed.
You are Willfully Stupid - probably indoctrinated from Birth... Jesus-Porked.
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What you posted does NOT have a single proven case of a mammal evolving into 2 distinctly different species. NOT ONE case. If it did he proof would be all over the place as science can not prove it and has been trying for years.

 

[Confounding]

You want Pictures/a shortened Time lapse video of an ape turning into a Man?
Is that, to your 60 IQ brain, the only "Actual evidence."

He still wouldn't be convinced. His faith is crucial to his world view. Everything he knows would be in tatters if he lost that. When you confront religious people in a way that forces them to choose between science and their faith, they will almost always choose their faith. For a lot of them anything in the world that tempts them to question their faith is Satan.

 

[abu afak]

What you posted does NOT have a single proven case of a mammal evolving into 2 distinctly different species. NOT ONE case. If it did he proof would be all over the place as science can not prove it and has been trying for years.

You LYING Turd..
You just HAD to move the goal posts from "No Evidence" to... "Not a single proven case".
You lost.
There is TONS of "actual evidence".
Posted above.
As I said above, Morons like you need/demand to see PICTURES of a chicken coming out a Giraffe's ass to "prove" evo.

IOW, You're not only an idiot, you're DISHONEST and in denial.


EDIT to last-wording GoonerySgt below
You lost Clown.
And worse, exposed yourself as both Blindingly Stupid And Dishonest.
Unable to even carry on rudimentary debate.
No more replies.
Gameover you piece of trash.
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[RetiredGySgt]

What you posted does NOT have a single proven case of a mammal evolving into 2 distinctly different species. NOT ONE case. If it did he proof would be all over the place as science can not prove it and has been trying for years.

You LYING Turd..
You just HAD to move the goal posts from "No Evidence" to... "Not a single proven case".
You lost.
There is TONS of "actual evidence".
Posted above.
As I said above, Morons like you want to see a chicken coming out a Giraffe's ass to "prove" evo.

IOW, You're not only an idiot, you're DISHONEST and in denial.
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LOL evidence of what? if you can not prove it then you have NO EVIDENCE. Fossil records are no help since they can not show how a species came into being. So that's out the window. Go ahead post a single proven time a mammal evolved into 2 distinctly different species.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

And yet NO ACTUAL EVIDENCE that an Mammal has ever evolved in to two distinctly different species.

Of course there is, and mountains of it at that.

Post it then

Post the entire fossil record, the thousands of mitochondrial DNA studies, and the results of dNA sequencing, all of which are in agreement and mtually supoortive?

No, I think a person honestly interested in seeing this evidence would look it up himself.

 

[jwoodie]

Please explain exactly how one species can reproduce another species

Okay, I will relate to you the explanation that 9th graders are given, as this is beginner level material and is included in introductory courses.

First of all, it is important to remember that such an event will typically take a very long time.

In other words, it just happens over millions of years. Get back to me when you have finished the 10th grade.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

And yet NO ACTUAL EVIDENCE that an Mammal has ever evolved in to two distinctly different species.

Of course there is, and mountains of it at that.

Post it then

Post the entire fossil record, the thousands of mitochondrial DNA studies, and the results of dNA sequencing, all of which are in agreement and mtually supoortive?

No, I think a person honestly interested in seeing this evidence would look it up himself.

Pigs are over 90 percent dna match for humans did we evolve from pigs? Is there a pig progenitor out there that created man and pig? DNA proves nothing lots of species have similar DNA.. There is ZERO factual evidence that shows a single mammal species has EVER evolved into 2 or more different species. If there was science would present it, all they have is conjecture and assumptions. Evolution occurs with in a species but there is NO EVIDENCE that 2 different species have ever evolved from a single mammal species. NONE

 

[james bond]

Here's the observational evidence. Check out the teeth on the skulls of people buried in Pompeii. They have really nice teeth and still have their wisdom teeth and they didn't have orthodontics and modern dentistry. It's our stupid diet that has screwed up our jaws and teeth. Same with our cecum and appendix.

Archaeologists find skull of ancient Roman killed while fleeing Pompeii

hahahhahahahahhahahahhahahahaha
..JB, we are going to have to ignore more of your [] ''proof'' if you keep posting links like this
1. it says NOTHING about the teeth in the article--the teeth could be ready to fall out/cavities/age of victim/etc
2. missing teeth

Many of the skulls found had perfect teeth. The explanation is the coarse, fibrous diet and this is the type of diet that we should be eating for longevity. Our dieticians tell us to cut sugar. gluten, dairy and eat more fiber. This has been demonstrated by people who still have to subside on this coarse, fibrous diet. A diet that our people before the Industrial Revolution subsided on. Their teeth have been worn down through attrition and this created more space in the dental arch allowing for the wisdom teeth. So, even today, we see evidence in Nigerians, people that have good teeth and are able to keep their wisdom teen. Yet, no evidence of ape-humans. Even your putrid example has them hahahaha. Anyhow, the case is closed on vestigial organs.

What about addressing the pain? You've probably suffered the pain of wisdom teeth impaction and had them removed. What about your appendix? Are you going to keep laughing when your side starts to hurt something fierce? How does evolution explain that? (It would seem to follow God's wrath since he gave women childbirth pains. Another point evos can't explain.) Both the pain of wisdom teeth and appendicitis should be convincing evidence of creation.

 

[james bond]

Please explain exactly how one species can reproduce another species

Okay, I will relate to you the explanation that 9th graders are given, as this is beginner level material and is included in introductory courses.

First of all, it is important to remember that such an event will typically take a very long time. Second, use a thought experiment. Take an individual of a species, and send it back in time 10, 000 years. It will be able to breed and produce offspring of the same species with the individuals alive at that time.

Take an individual alive 10, 000 years ago, and take it back 10,000 years. The same fact will hold.

You can keep doing this over and over, until you are back at the very first organisms.

However, the same would likely not hold, if you were to take an individual alive today, and take it back 10 million years.

This helps give you a sense of the gradual work of evolution to create new species.

>>FFI: Take an individual of a species, and send it back in time 10, 000 years.<<

Colossal idiocy. There is no evidence of being able to time travel back in time. Many consider it impossible as God designed.

What you are referring to is sexual reproduction which atheists can't explain.

 

[james bond]

I just smacked you and your science to oblivion using observational science while you continue to hold your silly mythological beliefs based on faith. It's a done deal like I said.

I can't help it if you don't understand the scientific method. You cannot explain how wisdom teeth were not impacted in the past. People had larger jaws due to the fibrous and coarser foods they ate. Now, you're using ad hominem attacks cause I whipped your dumb butt silly.

There's a reason why dieticians advocate eating more fiber because it's a healthier diet. Today, we eat too much sugar and processed foods that have screwed our bodies up. Can you get that through your thick skull? You probably think GMO foods are safe? Ha ha.

You're a Clown who has to Lie for Jesus, or have his whole family and social life collapse.

You did NOT support your Goofy contentions or generalizations at all, and did NOT refute mine/the widely noted 'anatomical remnants' the OP. (starting/Noted even hundreds of years ago)... which is Not just Wisdom Teeth, but Hundreds of examples on Hundreds of related Species.
You're Disingenous and Dishonest.
About the worst of the 7/11 Adventist Loonies I've seen.

Now back to AnswersInGenePis with you.
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Still smarting from the whuppin' I dished out I see. The evidence I provided and the reasoning is what most scientists agree on today. This is because it's covered by historical science and observational science. It's case closed. Time to pack your fake science up and go home.

 

[james bond]

Part of science is disagreement and SERIOUS disagreement as one's life work can be destroyed in an instant.

And Creationism is NOT "Science" in any way.

In this case, it wasn't one's life work, but an un-credited and horrid cut and paste job. Possibly one's worldview. The argument for vestigial organs has been debunked. It's history.

No it hasn't.
Except on your Creationism Websites Circle Jerk.

Now, what's interesting is your evo scientists claim that our smaller jaws is due to evolution of our diet. They just went from one wrong argument to another. To the contrary, our diet hasn't evolved, but gotten worse. All the sugar, saturated fat, gmo (mutation) and processed crap has de-evolved us.

We aren't living longer, but shorter lives. Even monkeys eat better than us.

Blindingly Stupid.
Our Jaw shape changed for many reasons, including allowing for larger brains.

And we are living MUCH longer lives than our predecessors from Millions/Hundreds-of-thousands/Thousands/Hundreds of years ago
YOU MORON.
The diet may not be better in nutritional components, but calories are infinitley easier to get due to advances in the last 10K years, and people survive much longer,

Maybe it's God's showing us his wrath against evolution because removal of vestigial organs is usually painful and requires surgery.

What!
Now you unwittingly admit Vestigal Organs AND removal...concede the whole thread point!

And what "God"?
You want to talk/bluff Science, yet you introduce no-evidence-god/magic?

Ha ha. Just give it up and admit you lost with your poor cut n' paste explanation. None of your arguments have anything to do with creation science.

 

[Confounding]

Pigs are over 90 percent dna match for humans did we evolve from pigs?

Humans and pigs have a common ancestor.

Meet Your Mama: First Ancestor of All Placental Mammals Revealed

 

[Confounding]

creation science.

There's an oxymoron.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Pigs are over 90 percent dna match for humans did we evolve from pigs?

Humans and pigs have a common ancestor.

Meet Your Mama: First Ancestor of All Placental Mammals Revealed

Ahh yes more guessing assumptions and void of any facts or evidence.