MORE Really Bad Obama Appointments: Rendition, Torture, Fraud

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    Ex-CIA Officials Tied to Rendition Program and Faulty Iraq Intel Tapped to Head Obama’s Intelligence Transition Team

    No appointees have been named as yet, but questions are already being raised about the people heading Obama’s transition efforts on intelligence policy. John Brennan and Jami Miscik, both former intelligence officials under George Tenet, are leading the review of intelligence agencies and helping make recommendations to the new administration. Brennan has supported warrantless wiretapping and extraordinary rendition, and Miscik was involved with the politicized intelligence alleging weapons of mass destruction in the lead-up to the war on Iraq.

    John Brennan was deputy executive secretary to George Tenet during the worst violations during the CIA period in the run-up to the Iraq war, so he sat there at Tenet’s knee when they passed judgment on torture and abuse, on extraordinary renditions, on black sites, on secret prisons. He was part of all of that decision making.

    Jami Miscik was the Deputy Director for Intelligence during the run-up to the Iraq war. So she went along with the phony intelligence estimate of October 2002, the phony white paper that was prepared by Paul Pillar in October 2002. She helped with the drafting of the speech that Colin Powell gave to the United Nations—[inaudible] 2003, which made the phony case for war to the international community.

    So, when George Tenet said, "slam dunk, we can provide all the intelligence you need,” [inaudible] to the President in December of 2002, it was people like Jami Miscik and John Brennan who were part of the team who provided that phony intelligence. So what I think people at the CIA are worried about—and I’ve talked to many of them over the weekend—is that there will never be any accountability for these violations and some of the unconscionable acts committed at the CIA, which essentially amount to war crimes, when you’re talking about torture and abuse and secret prisons. So, where are we, in terms of change? This sounds like more continuity.

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    Democracy Now! | Ex-CIA Officials Tied to Rendition Program and Faulty Iraq Intel Tapped to Head Obama's Intelligence Transition Team

    This Is Change? 20 Hawks, Clintonites and Neocons to Watch for in Obama's White House

    The prospect of Obama's foreign policy being, at least in part, an extension of the Clinton Doctrine is real. Even more disturbing, several of the individuals at the center of Obama's transition and emerging foreign policy teams were top players in creating and implementing foreign policies that would pave the way for projects eventually carried out under the Bush/Cheney administration. With their assistance, Obama has already charted out several hawkish stances. Among them:

    -- His plan to escalate the war in Afghanistan;

    -- An Iraq plan that could turn into a downsized and rebranded occupation that keeps U.S. forces in Iraq for the foreseeable future;

    -- His labeling of Iran's Revolutionary Guard as a "terrorist organization;"

    -- His pledge to use unilateral force inside of Pakistan to defend U.S. interests;

    -- His position, presented before the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), that Jerusalem "must remain undivided" -- a remark that infuriated Palestinian officials and which he later attempted to reframe;

    -- His plan to continue the War on Drugs, a backdoor U.S. counterinsurgency campaign in Central and Latin America;

    -- His refusal to "rule out" using Blackwater and other armed private forces in U.S. war zones, despite previously introducing legislation to regulate these companies and bring them under U.S. law.

    Obama did not arrive at these positions in a vacuum. They were carefully crafted in consultation with his foreign policy team. While the verdict is still out on a few people, many members of his inner foreign policy circle -- including some who have received or are bound to receive Cabinet posts -- supported the invasion and occupation of Iraq. Some promoted the myth that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction. A few have worked with the neoconservative Project for the New American Century, whose radical agenda was adopted by the Bush/Cheney administration. And most have proven track records of supporting or implementing militaristic, offensive U.S. foreign policy. "After a masterful campaign, Barack Obama seems headed toward some fateful mistakes as he assembles his administration by heeding the advice of Washington's Democratic insider community, a collective group that represents little 'change you can believe in,'" notes veteran journalist Robert Parry, the former Associated Press and Newsweek reporter who broke many of the stories in the Iran-Contra scandal in the 1980s.

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    This Is Change? 20 Hawks, Clintonites and Neocons to Watch for in Obama's White House | ForeignPolicy | AlterNet
     
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    and to think that everyone was trying to figure out which candidate would give them more of a tax break. Small potatoes now , huh ?
     
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    Small potatoes indeed.

    I don't expect there will be many Obama supporters chiming in on this thread.
     
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    ok, this is bad, but I'm going to say it. I don't think a lot of Obama supporters (notice I did not say ALL)....will even know who half the appointees are. They will not be disappointed because they have not been aware of or have they participated in politics before. A lot are young, new, and part of the sect who came out in droves to vote for the first time. So the disappointment level might be low.

    But for those of us who have been involved and paid attention to our government --the choices are....well, lets just say my cynical side keeps on getting stronger every day.

    I thought McCain would be bad....but Obama has made appointments that not only do not speak of change, but, rather, speak volumes about the fact that he is just another puppet.

    So the question is....who is really running the show?
     
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    How about you let the appointments be announced and THEN tell us what is wrong with them. All this speculation is a waste of time IMO.
     
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    I voted for him. I gave him money. I'll chime in.

    I feel a bit betrayed. I understand that when president one must have staff who know shit (American Politics) from shinola (current world reality) but the line that the Obama transition team is looking like a Clinton staff reunion is sad.

    I remain cautiously optimistic that the same team can look very different under two different coaches... I still want to wait until he has spent 100 days in office, doing the job before I send more money or join the opposition.

    -Joe
     
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    Good question.

    I call them the Puppetmasters .. the men behind the curtain who pull the strings.

    America IS a plutocracy by every definition.
     
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    Your post is a waste of time.

    I'm talking about appointments already made .. or haven't you been keeping up?

    Please explain Larry Summers .. who by the way believes you are inately stupid.
     
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    I totally agree with this. The same team under 2 coaches is completely different, hell just ask the Lakers prior to Phil Jackson! But, I'm abit disappointed so far
     
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    Thanks .. I respect that.

    But it isn't just Clinton people he's picking. He's choosing pro-war Clinton people and supporters of George Bush and his maniacal policies .. such as the two mentioned in this thread.

    Why is that? If he's truly against torture and the fraud of Iraq, why would he choose people who have been for both?

    This has absolutely nothing ZERO with picking people who know their way around Washington and everything to do with his agenda.
     

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