More public sector job needed to jump start the economy.

[The T]

I think the truth is that the loss of public sector jobs that account for most of the decline is because states, counties, and cities have had to reduce their current workforce so they can meet their pension and HC obligations to the public sector unions. They won't hire very many new employees if we were to bail them out with a big new spending bill, they'll use most of it to cover their debts.

There's a squeeze going on, state and local gov'ts are going to have to come to grips with those obligations somehow, funneling more money to them will merely postpone the problem. That's one reason why the last stimulus bill wasn't as effective as it could've been, it didn't really go to hiring new people and creating new shovel ready projects and jobs.

And the public isn't in any mood for tax hikes and loss of services either.

These people were elected to figure it out...and if they can't? They'll get fired.

That simple.

 

[Trajan]

MORE PUBLIC SECTOR JOB NEEDED TO JUMP START THE ECONOMY.

President Obama also reiterated, a number of times, that we need more public sector hiring. The private sector is fine, the president said, but more jobs need to be created in state and local government.
Ben LaBolt, an Obama campaign spokesman, said in a statement that “Mitt Romney promised to eliminate even more public-sector jobs.”

Obama may blame GOP for a bad jobs report but it's no subsitute for leadership | Fox News

Mr. Obama’s point at his news conference was that for more than two years, monthly jobs reports have shown growth in the private sector, but continuing cutbacks in the public sector as state and local governments slash jobs in their struggle to balance their budgets; the public sector — not the private sector — most needs additional government help.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/09/u...rom-obama-and-a-barrage-from-republicans.html

meanwhile aside form the tab for that, we basically paid sates to keep folks on the payroll with stimulus money.......where do suppose that money comes from? and, how long can we do that? its over.

and you do know that federal jobs have grown, right?

 

[The T]

MORE PUBLIC SECTOR JOB NEEDED TO JUMP START THE ECONOMY.

President Obama also reiterated, a number of times, that we need more public sector hiring. The private sector is fine, the president said, but more jobs need to be created in state and local government.
Ben LaBolt, an Obama campaign spokesman, said in a statement that “Mitt Romney promised to eliminate even more public-sector jobs.”

Obama may blame GOP for a bad jobs report but it's no subsitute for leadership | Fox News

Mr. Obama’s point at his news conference was that for more than two years, monthly jobs reports have shown growth in the private sector, but continuing cutbacks in the public sector as state and local governments slash jobs in their struggle to balance their budgets; the public sector — not the private sector — most needs additional government help.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/09/u...rom-obama-and-a-barrage-from-republicans.html

meanwhile aside form the tab for that, we basically paid sates to keep folks on the payroll with stimulus money.......where do suppose that money comes from? and, how long can we do that? its over.

and you do know that federal jobs have grown, right?

Indeed...and the EU is showing us how NOT to do things...But Obama is Hell-bent on doing it anyway...

 

[Trajan]

We've eliminated about 450,000 public sector jobs in the past few years.

Why are you conservatives complaining about weak job growth?

many of them were hired during a boom and their pension obligations were masked ......many of them were hired, like here in cali ahead of revenue even then, ahead of inflation and population growth to boot.....


in short they never should have been hired in the first place and it placed an exponential strain on already underfunded pension plans.

the bls says that private workers get $8.53 per hour worked in benefits, public workers? $14.31....etc etc etc ...


buy a clue.

 

[The T]

We've eliminated about 450,000 public sector jobs in the past few years.

Why are you conservatives complaining about weak job growth?

many of them were hired during a boom and their pension obligations were masked ......many of them were hired, like here in cali ahead of revenue even then, ahead of inflation and population growth to boot.....


in short they never should have been hired in the first place and it placed an exponential strain on already underfunded pension plans.

the bls says that private workers get $8.53 per hour worked in benefits, public workers? $14.31....etc etc etc ...


buy a clue.

In regard to 'population'? isn't there a mass exodus from California? [Those that can afford to leave]?

And doesn't that compound the problem?

 

[Trajan]

sure does and the folks leaving we need, even the migrant workers

 

[The T]

sure does and the folks leaving we need, even the migrant workers

So California is stuck with 'recipients' of Statist good graces, INTENT... with no one to pay for it?

 

[Darkwind]

President Obama also reiterated, a number of times, that we need more public sector hiring. The private sector is fine, the president said, but more jobs need to be created in state and local government.

He's right, of course. The whole point of having a government is doing things and that takes workers.

that is NOT the whole point of having government. Seriously, you need to forget what your teachers taught you about government in the government ran schools and start thinking for yourself.

Fewer government jobs, means less drain on the economy.

Government exists to serve a very limited number of functions. Providing jobs and sustenance to the populace is not one of them.

 

[The T]

President Obama also reiterated, a number of times, that we need more public sector hiring. The private sector is fine, the president said, but more jobs need to be created in state and local government.

He's right, of course. The whole point of having a government is doing things and that takes workers.

that is NOT the whole point of having government. Seriously, you need to forget what your teachers taught you about government in the government ran schools and start thinking for yourself.

Fewer government jobs, means less drain on the economy.

Government exists to serve a very limited number of functions. Providing jobs and sustenance to the populace is not one of them.

Yep. Flushing out the drones. Love it.

 

[NYcarbineer]

We've eliminated about 450,000 public sector jobs in the past few years.

Why are you conservatives complaining about weak job growth?

many of them were hired during a boom and their pension obligations were masked ......many of them were hired, like here in cali ahead of revenue even then, ahead of inflation and population growth to boot.....


in short they never should have been hired in the first place and it placed an exponential strain on already underfunded pension plans.

the bls says that private workers get $8.53 per hour worked in benefits, public workers? $14.31....etc etc etc ...


buy a clue.

Grow up. You really don't need to be an asshole in every post. I'll stipulate to you being an asshole if you'll agree to stop trying to convince us.

I don't hear conservatives praising Obama for weak job growth caused by the loss of all those public sector jobs that conservatives WANT to lose.