More Obama Bullshit

[Papageorgio]

Just keep spinning and changing! Hey! You could write for Mitt-Flop! Are you a politician? mon, since you're already owned on this you can tell....

Translation: Yeah he really did say that so I need to deflect.
Good work. The borg is proud of you.

He really did say "Companies abuse their employees with impunity"?
and "They pollute more."
No. He didn't. You lied. Well okay let's cut you a break. You interpreted. But you simply cannot back up your statement that he said the things you said he did.
So I'm done with the petty bickering here. if you can prove he said "Companies abuse their employees with impunity", I'm all ears and will respond. If not, no big deal. You used a little hyperbole and creative license. Not like that's unsusual here.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...ent-yesterday/2012/04/04/gIQASTayuS_blog.html

It's there, so no lie, let's deal with reality.

 

[Listening]

The republicans always say its because blacks are just to stupid.

In your case, they'd be right.

 

[chikenwing]

And the first confession needs to be that George W. Bush and his nattering minions were flaming idiots.


Fair statement,but then ya gotta see the other guys are no different.

 

[Listening]

This whole thread was about Obama's criticism of trickle down economics.

As near as I can tell, trickle down did a great deal more for people than his miserable efforts.

 

[yidnar]

do you remember all the coal mine disastors?

cops,coal miners,fire fighters,military ect are dangerous jobs !!! so maybe [according to your logic]they should be shut down !!

 

[8537]

Air pollution decreased dramatically after passage of the Clean Air Act.

For those keeping score at home, the Clean Air Act is a regulation.

SO2 emissions causing acid rain and destroying the Northern Forests declined dramatically after the Bush administration created and signed a cap and trade bill for SO2 emissions.

For those keeping score at home, Cap and Trade is a regulation.

 

[starcraftzzz]

He claims that under Bush and prior employers were allowed to treat workers with impunity. That is not so.

Obama says that right wingers tell us that taking away workers rights and doing things that only benefits the rich will be beneficially. OS basically the reason you think he is lying is because you can't read/andor have the reading comprehension of a 3rd grader
That is not so? Only if you've completely been under a rock and missed Reagan union busting, and state GOP parties taking away bargaining rights


Again the problem seems to be that you can't read. Every time the EPA comes out with a regulation that lowers pollutions right-wingers yourself included scream about how it will hurt the economy. This is despite the fact that all the cost-benefit analysis show that the regulations would save more money then they cost and create millions of jobs

He claims all of this stuff that didnt actually happen resulted in disaster. .

He claims that the right told us removing regulations would lead to prosperity. Well we removed banking regulations and it resulted int he biggest banking crises ever. We removed utility regulations and as a result costs sky rocked. We removed accounting regulations and as a result Enron and Wold Co occured.

The problem here is that you are an illiterate moron who has no clue

You're the one with the reading problem.
Obama said the rightwing conservative agenda was tried in the last decade. That agenda was allowing companies to treat workers with impunity and pollute more.
There was never any agenda that did that, nor did any of that happen.
Obama is a liar. You are an idiot.

Yes in the past few decade the Conservative agenda has been tried, lower tax cuts for the rich, lower union rates, lower minimum wages, deregulation all of which failed. And now the GOP is against reducing pollution because they are so stupid they think pollution is good for an economy.

Hmm, now who was president at the beginning of the last decade? Clinton? No. Obama? No. Lincoln? No. Hmm.
You claim, like Obama, that less EPA regulation will result in more pollution. Can you support that? No. Can he? No. Is it true? No.
It is interesting that the people disputing this themselves have to lie and rely on unsupported assertions.

Natural Gas Industry Must Tighten Up Methane Leaks -- And Save $2 Billion Per Year In The Process | ThinkProgress
^Natural gas companies could reduce methane emissions by 80% while saving a net of 2 billion dollars through increased efficiency, and saving society money through less ozone health costs and global warming

Power Companies: 'The Time Is Now' for Air Toxics Rule | ThinkProgress
^New EPA standards that reduce Mercury emissions by 91% and SO2 emissions by 55% will save 17,000 lives a year prevent 12,000 heart attacks and 120,000 asthma attacks each year and will provide 140 billion in health benefits. These new regulations and the Clean Air transport rule will create 1.4 million jobs over the next 5 years

04/14/2011: EPA Landmark Clean Air Act Settlement with TVA to Modernize Coal-Fired Power Plants and Promote Clean Energy Investments / State-of-the-art pollution controls and clean energy technology to provide up to $27 billion in annual health benef
^EPA settlement with the TVA will result in the TVA investing 5 billion to clean up their coal plants. Which will result in 2,000 less deaths a year, and save 20 billion yearly due to health benefits.

Good it took me 5 seconds to prove that everything you said is utter bullshit.

Think Progress? That's your source? Really?
snicker.
You have the critical reading skills of a chimp. When a progressive tells you some measure "might save 13000 lives" they are lying. There is no evidence of such a thing. It is completely made up for propaganda purposes to fool idiots like you. Clearly it worked.

Typical of an illiterate clueless tool like you to ignore reality

 

[starcraftzzz]

Hmm, now who was president at the beginning of the last decade? Clinton? No. Obama? No. Lincoln? No. Hmm.
You claim, like Obama, that less EPA regulation will result in more pollution. Can you support that? No. Can he? No. Is it true? No.
It is interesting that the people disputing this themselves have to lie and rely on unsupported assertions.

Natural Gas Industry Must Tighten Up Methane Leaks -- And Save $2 Billion Per Year In The Process | ThinkProgress
^Natural gas companies could reduce methane emissions by 80% while saving a net of 2 billion dollars through increased efficiency, and saving society money through less ozone health costs and global warming

Power Companies: 'The Time Is Now' for Air Toxics Rule | ThinkProgress
^New EPA standards that reduce Mercury emissions by 91% and SO2 emissions by 55% will save 17,000 lives a year prevent 12,000 heart attacks and 120,000 asthma attacks each year and will provide 140 billion in health benefits. These new regulations and the Clean Air transport rule will create 1.4 million jobs over the next 5 years

04/14/2011: EPA Landmark Clean Air Act Settlement with TVA to Modernize Coal-Fired Power Plants and Promote Clean Energy Investments / State-of-the-art pollution controls and clean energy technology to provide up to $27 billion in annual health benef
^EPA settlement with the TVA will result in the TVA investing 5 billion to clean up their coal plants. Which will result in 2,000 less deaths a year, and save 20 billion yearly due to health benefits.

Good it took me 5 seconds to prove that everything you said is utter bullshit.

Think Progress and EPA propaganda never proved anything in the history of the world.

Moonbat.

I see so according to you reality never proved anything.

 

[starcraftzzz]

obama's going to close down all the coal mines so what does it matter now.

Nope only the ones who continue to dumb mercury into drinking water and emit into our air. Of which the money saved form lower health costs, and increased productivity will be higher then the money lost from less coal

Coal miners will be so happy to be unemployed they will vote for him in droves.

Given that green energy creates 3 times more jobs for Americans then coal those coal miners will have way more jobs then they used to, only now they wont get miners lung and die at age 60.

 

[Toro]

congressman yells "You Lie" at Obama speech - YouTube

Zander

Your sig is making me hungry.

 

[The Rabbi]

Obama says that right wingers tell us that taking away workers rights and doing things that only benefits the rich will be beneficially. OS basically the reason you think he is lying is because you can't read/andor have the reading comprehension of a 3rd grader
That is not so? Only if you've completely been under a rock and missed Reagan union busting, and state GOP parties taking away bargaining rights


Again the problem seems to be that you can't read. Every time the EPA comes out with a regulation that lowers pollutions right-wingers yourself included scream about how it will hurt the economy. This is despite the fact that all the cost-benefit analysis show that the regulations would save more money then they cost and create millions of jobs

He claims that the right told us removing regulations would lead to prosperity. Well we removed banking regulations and it resulted int he biggest banking crises ever. We removed utility regulations and as a result costs sky rocked. We removed accounting regulations and as a result Enron and Wold Co occured.

The problem here is that you are an illiterate moron who has no clue

You're the one with the reading problem.
Obama said the rightwing conservative agenda was tried in the last decade. That agenda was allowing companies to treat workers with impunity and pollute more.
There was never any agenda that did that, nor did any of that happen.
Obama is a liar. You are an idiot.

Yes in the past few decade the Conservative agenda has been tried, lower tax cuts for the rich, lower union rates, lower minimum wages, deregulation all of which failed. And now the GOP is against reducing pollution because they are so stupid they think pollution is good for an economy.

When were there lower minimum wages? What has been deregulated in the past decade? Taxes were cut for all Americans at every income level, including for those who pay no taxes.
Do you actually know anything or just yammer on? Reality is not your friend. Try Haldol.

 

[The Rabbi]

obama's going to close down all the coal mines so what does it matter now.

Nope only the ones who continue to dumb mercury into drinking water and emit into our air. Of which the money saved form lower health costs, and increased productivity will be higher then the money lost from less coal

Coal miners will be so happy to be unemployed they will vote for him in droves.

Given that green energy creates 3 times more jobs for Americans then coal those coal miners will have way more jobs then they used to, only now they wont get miners lung and die at age 60.

That's only true if yo count bankrupty attorneys, who have been having a field day with Solyndra and a dozen other companies that benefiited from Obama's green agenda.
Remind we why we need gov't picking winners and losers here?

 

[Listening]

Air pollution decreased dramatically after passage of the Clean Air Act.

For those keeping score at home, the Clean Air Act is a regulation.

When was the clean air act passed ?

 

[Listening]

obama's going to close down all the coal mines so what does it matter now.

Nope only the ones who continue to dumb mercury into drinking water and emit into our air. Of which the money saved form lower health costs, and increased productivity will be higher then the money lost from less coal

Coal miners will be so happy to be unemployed they will vote for him in droves.

Given that green energy creates 3 times more jobs for Americans then coal those coal miners will have way more jobs then they used to, only now they wont get miners lung and die at age 60.

Can you supply some links from credible sources to back up your claims ?

It would good to see how green energy creates 3 times as many jobs. Now, if there are subsidies involved, it is a whole new story (or the same old story).

But, lets look at the evidence first.

 

[starcraftzzz]

This whole thread was about Obama's criticism of trickle down economics.

As near as I can tell, trickle down did a great deal more for people than his miserable efforts.

Odd how you think poverty, lower wages and wealth and lower living standards is a great deal ofor people

 

[starcraftzzz]

You're the one with the reading problem.
Obama said the rightwing conservative agenda was tried in the last decade. That agenda was allowing companies to treat workers with impunity and pollute more.
There was never any agenda that did that, nor did any of that happen.
Obama is a liar. You are an idiot.

Yes in the past few decade the Conservative agenda has been tried, lower tax cuts for the rich, lower union rates, lower minimum wages, deregulation all of which failed. And now the GOP is against reducing pollution because they are so stupid they think pollution is good for an economy.

When were there lower minimum wages?

In Republican states.

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What has been deregulated in the past decade?

Banks, energy utilties, and water utlites. Of which all failed

[
Taxes were cut for all Americans at every income level, including for those who pay no taxes.

Of which they didn't work.

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Do you actually know anything or just yammer on? Reality is not your friend. Try Haldol.

LOL you're the one asking me to inform you on the history of the past 10 years because you were to blind and stupid to see it passing

 

[starcraftzzz]

obama's going to close down all the coal mines so what does it matter now.

Nope only the ones who continue to dumb mercury into drinking water and emit into our air. Of which the money saved form lower health costs, and increased productivity will be higher then the money lost from less coal

Coal miners will be so happy to be unemployed they will vote for him in droves.

Given that green energy creates 3 times more jobs for Americans then coal those coal miners will have way more jobs then they used to, only now they wont get miners lung and die at age 60.

Can you supply some links from credible sources to back up your claims ?

It would good to see how green energy creates 3 times as many jobs. Now, if there are subsidies involved, it is a whole new story (or the same old story).

But, lets look at the evidence first.

The Economic Benefits of Investing in Clean Energy
^Green energy creates 3 times the number of jobs then coal/oil.

Life-cycle study: Accounting for total harm from coal would add "close to 17.8¢/kWh of electricity generated" | ThinkProgress
^New study fines that Coals negative effect on human health and the environmental cost the nation at least 125% more than the electricity generated from coal.
^Coal results in at least 30,000 American deaths each year.

National Movement to End Mountaintop Removal Continues to Gain Momentum « Appalachian Voices
^ A Harvard study shows that Mountaintop coal mining increases health costs by 75 billion a year, or 9 times more than the benefits of the mining.

THeres 12 more studies all showing the same thing, but like alw2ays Republicans will reject reality because they are to pathetic to admit they were wrong

 

[The Rabbi]

Yes in the past few decade the Conservative agenda has been tried, lower tax cuts for the rich, lower union rates, lower minimum wages, deregulation all of which failed. And now the GOP is against reducing pollution because they are so stupid they think pollution is good for an economy.

When were there lower minimum wages?

In Republican states.


Banks, energy utilties, and water utlites. Of which all failed

[
Taxes were cut for all Americans at every income level, including for those who pay no taxes.

Of which they didn't work.

[
Do you actually know anything or just yammer on? Reality is not your friend. Try Haldol.

LOL you're the one asking me to inform you on the history of the past 10 years because you were to blind and stupid to see it passing

OK that was a giant FAIL.
Min wage has never been lowered, only raised. Yeah even in "Republican states" (wherever that is).
Water utilities have not failed.
Third response is incoherent. Off your meds?

 

[8537]

Air pollution decreased dramatically after passage of the Clean Air Act.

For those keeping score at home, the Clean Air Act is a regulation.

When was the clean air act passed ?

That regulation was passed under Nixon, strengthened considerably other that other libtard, GHW Bush.

 

[The Rabbi]

Air pollution decreased dramatically after passage of the Clean Air Act.

For those keeping score at home, the Clean Air Act is a regulation.

When was the clean air act passed ?

That regulation was passed under Nixon, strengthened considerably other that other libtard, GHW Bush.

GHW Bush was a liberal? Who knew?