More Murderous Right-Wing Militia...

[JBeukema]

Francis "Schaeffer" Cox, Lonnie Vernon, Karen Vernon, Coleman Barney and Michael Anderson are accused of conspiring to commit murder, kidnapping, and arson, as well as weapons misconduct, hindering prosecution and tampering with evidence, according to trooper spokeswoman Megan Peters in a written statement late Thursday.
An investigation "revealed extensive plans to kidnap or kill Alaska state troopers and a Fairbanks judge," the statement said. The plans included "extensive surveillance" on the homes of two Fairbanks troopers, the statement said.
"Investigation also revealed that extensive surveillance on troopers in the Fairbanks area had occurred, specifically on the locations of the homes for two Alaska state troopers," the statement said. "Furthermore, Cox et. al. had acquired a large cache of weapons in order to carry out attacks against their targeted victims. Some of the weapons known to be in the cache are prohibited by state or federal law."
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U.S. Attorney Karen Loeffler said Lonnie Vernon, 55, was arrested for threatening to kill a federal judge. She said more information about federal charges would be released today Fairbanks Police Chief Loren Zager said the operation involved multiple police actions related to Fairbanks-area members of the "sovereign citizen" movement.

Five charged in alleged plot to kidnap or kill troopers, judge: Crime | Alaska news at adn.com

 

[Ringel05]

More Murderous Right-Wing Militia.

How do ya know they're right wing?

 

[California Girl]

More Murderous Right-Wing Militia.

How do ya know they're right wing?

Cuz they got guns and shit.

 

[editec]

What was their motive?

U.S. Attorney Karen Loeffler said Lonnie Vernon, 55, was arrested for threatening to kill a federal judge. She said more information about federal charges would be released today Fairbanks Police Chief Loren Zager said the operation involved multiple police actions related to Fairbanks-area members of the "sovereign citizen" movement

Read more: Five charged in alleged plot to kidnap or kill troopers, judge: Crime | Alaska news at adn.com​

Sounds like RIGHT WING CLAPTRAP to me.

Lefties planning on offing Federal judges would not be doing so for the "sovereign citizen" movement"​

They're be doing it in the name of some CITIZENS OR PEOPLE'S movement.

The "individual rights" thing is definitely part of the right wing political narrative

​

 

[Sallow]

Where's Peter "I just want to get to the bottom of Terrorism" King on this?

 

[del]

The sovereign citizen movement is characterized by a rejection of U.S. laws and taxes. In general, participants believe that federal, state and local statutes and laws do not apply to them.

Read more: Five charged in alleged plot to kidnap or kill troopers, judge: Crime | Alaska news at adn.com

sounds like nutbars to me, but feel free to hang them around the neck of the opposing team.

that's worked out so well the past few years, hasn't it?

 

[chanel]

They are anarchists and are labeled a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center. They are discussed in the FBI domestic terrorism threat report.

Today, we look at a third threat—the “sovereign citizen” extremist movement. Sovereign citizens are anti-government extremists who believe that even though they physically reside in this country, they are separate or “sovereign” from the United States. As a result, they believe they don’t have to answer to any government authority, including courts, taxing entities, motor vehicle departments, or law enforcement

FBI — The Sovereign Citizen Movement

What's the issue? Hang 'em.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

OK
Independent Lens . THE WEATHER UNDERGROUND | PBS


What did they do
Initially formed as a splinter group which believed that peaceful protests were ineffective, the Weathermen were widely criticized for their use of violence as a means of social and political change. Some accused the group of terrorism, while others accused it of giving all activists, both militant and more mainstream, a bad name.
Independent Lens . THE WEATHER UNDERGROUND . The Movement | PBS

Where are they now?
Independent Lens . THE WEATHER UNDERGROUND . The Weathermen Today | PBS

 

[editec]

The sovereign citizen movement is characterized by a rejection of U.S. laws and taxes. In general, participants believe that federal, state and local statutes and laws do not apply to them.

Read more: Five charged in alleged plot to kidnap or kill troopers, judge: Crime | Alaska news at adn.com

sounds like nutbars to me, but feel free to hang them around the neck of the opposing team.

that's worked out so well the past few years, hasn't it?

Okay you're going to pretend that that movement is NOT part of the Right wing nutters' narrative?

It most definitely is, amigo.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

The "individual rights" thing is definitely part of the right wing political narrative

Yes it is and the anti individual rights things is definitely the leftwing mainstream .

 

[chanel]

Jared Loughner, the suspect in the Feb. 8 shooting of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and 18 others in Tucson, Ariz., used "sovereign citizens" talking points, and two well-known sovereign citizens shot to death two West Memphis, Ark., police officers in May 2010.

'Sovereign citizens': Is Jared Loughner a sign of revived extremist threat? - CSMonitor.com

Wasn't he a Democrat?

This is a hate group. If your point is that anyone who hates high taxes condones the actions of this group, you might be talking about half the fucking country. The half that pay them that is.

Nice spin. Not.

 

[Oddball]

The sovereign citizen movement is characterized by a rejection of U.S. laws and taxes. In general, participants believe that federal, state and local statutes and laws do not apply to them.

Read more: Five charged in alleged plot to kidnap or kill troopers, judge: Crime | Alaska news at adn.com

sounds like nutbars to me, but feel free to hang them around the neck of the opposing team.

that's worked out so well the past few years, hasn't it?

Okay you're going to pretend that that movement is NOT part of the Right wing nutters' narrative?

It most definitely is, amigo.

I've been to a few of their conventio-cons....They're pretty much distrustful of everyone.

Trying to pin them down as left/right is a fools errand.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

jared loughner, the suspect in the feb. 8 shooting of rep. Gabrielle giffords and 18 others in tucson, ariz., used "sovereign citizens" talking points, and two well-known sovereign citizens shot to death two west memphis, ark., police officers in may 2010.

'sovereign citizens': Is jared loughner a sign of revived extremist threat? - csmonitor.com

wasn't he a democrat?

This is a hate group. If your point is that anyone who hates high taxes condones the actions of this group, you might be talking about half the fucking country. The half that pay them that is.

Nice spin. Not.

yes he was he also had worked for her campgian

 

[bigrebnc1775]

OK
Independent Lens . THE WEATHER UNDERGROUND | PBS


What did they do
Initially formed as a splinter group which believed that peaceful protests were ineffective, the Weathermen were widely criticized for their use of violence as a means of social and political change. Some accused the group of terrorism, while others accused it of giving all activists, both militant and more mainstream, a bad name.
Independent Lens . THE WEATHER UNDERGROUND . The Movement | PBS

Where are they now?
Independent Lens . THE WEATHER UNDERGROUND . The Weathermen Today | PBS

I noticed one thing from my post the word militant
With the left militant good, militia bad.

 

[Tank]

More Murderous Right-Wing Militia...

Allegedly

 

[JBeukema]

Cox, reports the Daily News Miner, considers himself a sovereign citizen (someone who believes that almost all forms of government in the United States are illegitimate), and said in a lengthy courtroom speech last year that he wouldn't cooperate with the court system. He reportedly sees himself as a peacemaker between his supporters and the government. He is a leader of the Second Amendment Task Force, which eventually spawned the Alaska Peacemakers Militia...Coleman Barney was also a member of the Second Amendment Task Force, and apparently appeared at the Second Amendment March in April, 2010, dressed in colonial costume and touting an AK-47. Picture here, via the News-Miner.

The SPLC lists the Alaska Peacemakers Militia as an anti-government "patriot" group.​

full article

When McVeigh was caught, it was because of a traffic stop- we had Sovereign Citizen license plates on his escape vehicle

 

[JBeukema]

It would be tempting to dismiss the violence that took place that day as an isolated event &#8212; an unstable father and son who exploded in a moment of vicious, unexplained fury. The truth, however, is more frightening. Jerry Kane and his young son were active participants in the sprawling subculture of "sovereign citizens" in America: hundreds of thousands of far-right extremists who believe that they &#8212; not judges, juries, law enforcement or elected officials &#8212; get to decide which laws to obey and which to ignore, and who don't think they should have to pay taxes.

&#039;Sovereign&#039; Citizen Kane | Southern Poverty Law Center

 

[del]

The sovereign citizen movement is characterized by a rejection of U.S. laws and taxes. In general, participants believe that federal, state and local statutes and laws do not apply to them.

Read more: Five charged in alleged plot to kidnap or kill troopers, judge: Crime | Alaska news at adn.com

sounds like nutbars to me, but feel free to hang them around the neck of the opposing team.

that's worked out so well the past few years, hasn't it?

Okay you're going to pretend that that movement is NOT part of the Right wing nutters' narrative?

It most definitely is, amigo.

nutters is the key word, compadre.

as previously stated, if you wish to drape it around the neck of the opposite team, feel free. revel in it.

 

[Immanuel]

What was their motive?

U.S. Attorney Karen Loeffler said Lonnie Vernon, 55, was arrested for threatening to kill a federal judge. She said more information about federal charges would be released today Fairbanks Police Chief Loren Zager said the operation involved multiple police actions related to Fairbanks-area members of the "sovereign citizen" movement

Read more: Five charged in alleged plot to kidnap or kill troopers, judge: Crime | Alaska news at adn.com​

Sounds like RIGHT WING CLAPTRAP to me.

Lefties planning on offing Federal judges would not be doing so for the "sovereign citizen" movement"​

They're be doing it in the name of some CITIZENS OR PEOPLE'S movement.

The "individual rights" thing is definitely part of the right wing political narrative

​

They can't be right wing. Fox News beats up on them:

Growing sovereign citizen movement rewrites US history, rejects government and warns of change - FoxNews.com

COLUMBUS, Ohio – They call themselves sovereign citizens, U.S. residents who declare themselves above state and federal laws. Many don't register children's births, carry driver's licenses or recognize the court system.

Some peddle schemes that use fictional legal loopholes to eliminate debt and avoid foreclosures.

A few such believers are violent: Two police officers in Arkansas died in a shootout in May after stopping an Ohio sovereign citizen and his son.

As many as 300,000 people identify as sovereign citizens, the Southern Poverty Law Center found in a study to be published Thursday that was obtained by The Associated Press. Hate group monitors say their numbers have increased thanks to the recession, the foreclosure crisis, the growth of the Internet and the election of Barack Obama in 2008.

Everyone knows Fox News would never put down a right wing organization, right?

Immie

 

[Trajan]

Read more: Five charged in alleged plot to kidnap or kill troopers, judge: Crime | Alaska news at adn.com

sounds like nutbars to me, but feel free to hang them around the neck of the opposing team.

that's worked out so well the past few years, hasn't it?

Okay you're going to pretend that that movement is NOT part of the Right wing nutters' narrative?

It most definitely is, amigo.

I've been to a few of their conventio-cons....They're pretty much distrustful of everyone.

Trying to pin them down as left/right is a fools errand.

when were you there.

who were you with.

you!!! yes you!....stand still laddie!