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So, what are the facts, allegedly underlooked by arabists?No need of any comment from me. All of this is well known facts that always seem to be, erm..."overlooked" by the Zionists. Get ready for more of he usual pro-Israel scripted PR responses...
Good post!An interesting, lengthy, article or, as it is titled, Quiz...
It's worth spending 10 minutes having a read...
Can you Pass the Hamas Quiz Informed Comment
I am interested to read comments from pro Israel and pro Palestinian comments...
Good drivel.Good post!
Good drivel.Good post!
Good drivel.Good post!
I seem to have become accustomed to your enthralling replies docmauser1
If you really have nothing interesting to say wouldn't it be better to stop making yourself look like a fool?
I am interested to hear both sides of the story without the usual rhetoric and abuse.
Good drivel.Good post!
I seem to have become accustomed to your enthralling replies docmauser1
If you really have nothing interesting to say wouldn't it be better to stop making yourself look like a fool?
I am interested to hear both sides of the story without the usual rhetoric and abuse.
The 3 "facts " set the scene as the occupation is not illegal
The Palestinians can not use terrorism against children and pass it of as resistance
A pack of lies as Iraq and iran also faced international sanctions and what Israel receives is of no consequence. Then the questions were weighted heavily against Israel to the point of being RACIST BLOOD LIBELS and LIES
Most of the things written there are pure nonsense.
"“Hamas is not ‘jihadist’ in the sense of al-Qaeda or ISIS. It is not fighting for a world-wide Caliphate."
Is it not? Then, I guess, what they themselves say hardly matters:
Musab Hassan Usuf, Son of Hamas leader: "Hamas seeks conquest and taking over...The destruction of the state of Israel is not Hamas' final destination. Hamas' final destination is building the Islamic Hilafa(Caliphate). Which means, an Islamic state on the rubble of every other civilization."
"During the 2014 Israel-Gaza conflict, Netanyahu, in a national broadcast, stated that the sole purpose of Hamas’ tunnels was “to annihilate our civilians and to kill our children”. However, Israel had already seen six instances in which Hamas was able to use the tunnels against Israel. Once when Gilad Shalit was captured [in 2006], and the rest during the current [2014 conflict]. In all instances, Hamas’ target were [Israeli] soldiers, not [Israeli] communities.”
The main idea back in 2006 was to kidnapp soldiers, civilians never got hurt not because Hamas's policy of not hurting civilians, but because the mission back then was soldiers.
Two weeks ago, a tunnle was found underneath the main dining room of one of the towns surrounding Gaza. Another was found near a kindergarten. Those tunnles were meant to hurt civilians. What relevance does that have to do with Shalit deal?
Pure nonsense.
"Hamas is not a meaningful threat to Israel."
That is not up to that stupid site to decide. The Israeli intelligence believes otherwise.
This had me...The nerve: The Likud party. This explicit rejection of a Palestinian state was part of Likud’s platform at the time of the 2009 Israeli elections; the elections led to a Likud-led government. http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2009/02/09/f-rfa-armstrong.html
Despite this offensive clause, which contravenes international law, Hamas has indicated a willingness to support talks with Israel.
Obviously someone didn't read the Hamas Charter: which specifically says that "Israel exists until Islam destroyed it, like it destroyed forces who rejected it in the past."
Rejecting a Palestinian state is against Intl law? I'd like to see where it is said.
“Because of religious restrictions, Hamas itself cannot sign a peace agreement [with Israel]. But, like religious people everywhere (especially Jews and Christians), it has found ways around God’s commandments. The founder of Hamas, the paralyzed Sheik Ahmad Yassin (who wrote the [Hamas] Charter and was assassinated by Israel) proposed a 30-year Hudna. A Hudna is a truce sanctified by Allah, which can be renewed until the Last Judgment.”
Can this get anymore decietful? The term Hudna is from the Quran itself. It means "temporal ceasefire". It is a ceasefire that Muhammad had with his enemies when back then, he was either outnumbered or weak to fight. Hudna means 'ceasefire until strong enough to fight again'. Once the 'army of Islam' can fight, they break their Hudna, because Allah says to fight the infidels.
What are the names of the two Palestinians that were kidnapped from Gaza by Israeli soldiers on 24 June 2006 (i.e., one day before the Shalit capture)?
They were terrorists who were arrested. That is what should be done with such people.
As anyone, deserving them, should, of course.I seem to have become accustomed to your enthralling replies docmauser1
Fools, calling others fools, old drivel.If you really have nothing interesting to say wouldn't it be better to stop making yourself look like a fool?
Cracking jokes, eh?I am interested to hear both sides of the story without the usual rhetoric and abuse.
Most of the things written there are pure nonsense.
"“Hamas is not ‘jihadist’ in the sense of al-Qaeda or ISIS. It is not fighting for a world-wide Caliphate."
Is it not? Then, I guess, what they themselves say hardly matters:
Musab Hassan Usuf, Son of Hamas leader: "Hamas seeks conquest and taking over...The destruction of the state of Israel is not Hamas' final destination. Hamas' final destination is building the Islamic Hilafa(Caliphate). Which means, an Islamic state on the rubble of every other civilization."
"During the 2014 Israel-Gaza conflict, Netanyahu, in a national broadcast, stated that the sole purpose of Hamas’ tunnels was “to annihilate our civilians and to kill our children”. However, Israel had already seen six instances in which Hamas was able to use the tunnels against Israel. Once when Gilad Shalit was captured [in 2006], and the rest during the current [2014 conflict]. In all instances, Hamas’ target were [Israeli] soldiers, not [Israeli] communities.”
The main idea back in 2006 was to kidnapp soldiers, civilians never got hurt not because Hamas's policy of not hurting civilians, but because the mission back then was soldiers.
Two weeks ago, a tunnle was found underneath the main dining room of one of the towns surrounding Gaza. Another was found near a kindergarten. Those tunnles were meant to hurt civilians. What relevance does that have to do with Shalit deal?
Pure nonsense.
"Hamas is not a meaningful threat to Israel."
That is not up to that stupid site to decide. The Israeli intelligence believes otherwise.
This had me...The nerve: The Likud party. This explicit rejection of a Palestinian state was part of Likud’s platform at the time of the 2009 Israeli elections; the elections led to a Likud-led government. http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2009/02/09/f-rfa-armstrong.html
Despite this offensive clause, which contravenes international law, Hamas has indicated a willingness to support talks with Israel.
Obviously someone didn't read the Hamas Charter: which specifically says that "Israel exists until Islam destroyed it, like it destroyed forces who rejected it in the past."
Rejecting a Palestinian state is against Intl law? I'd like to see where it is said.
“Because of religious restrictions, Hamas itself cannot sign a peace agreement [with Israel]. But, like religious people everywhere (especially Jews and Christians), it has found ways around God’s commandments. The founder of Hamas, the paralyzed Sheik Ahmad Yassin (who wrote the [Hamas] Charter and was assassinated by Israel) proposed a 30-year Hudna. A Hudna is a truce sanctified by Allah, which can be renewed until the Last Judgment.”
Can this get anymore decietful? The term Hudna is from the Quran itself. It means "temporal ceasefire". It is a ceasefire that Muhammad had with his enemies when back then, he was either outnumbered or weak to fight. Hudna means 'ceasefire until strong enough to fight again'. Once the 'army of Islam' can fight, they break their Hudna, because Allah says to fight the infidels.
What are the names of the two Palestinians that were kidnapped from Gaza by Israeli soldiers on 24 June 2006 (i.e., one day before the Shalit capture)?
They were terrorists who were arrested. That is what should be done with such people.
I thank you for your reply...
Quoting Musab Hassan Usuf is not that relevant... As you are aware he worked for shin bet for 10 years and has converted to Christianity... Hardly a spokesperson for Hamas!
You provide no evidence to back up your two tunnels found... And you cannot say, with certainty that they were meant to hurt civilians.
Hamas is hardly a meaningful threat... Whatever Israeli intelligence thinks... They have limited weapons, limited personnel, limited training... They are hardly ISIS are they! ISIS are a meaningful threat to Israel, being well trained and in possession of a significant amount of American armoury!
The Hamas Charter rears it's ugly head once again... Israel use it as a tool to avoid all negotiations... The charter is out of date, and NOT what Hamas are today. Yes, Hamas are still brutal and considered terrorists but you may find that their 'Charter' has changed significantly!
Your interpretation of Hudna is not correct and is misleading.
Hudna actually means "calm" or "quiet"... NOT ceasefire as you suggest. The concept of hudna was introduced to the conflict by the Israeli businessman Eyal Erlich in 2001. He and some others proposed, unsuccessfully, that Israel should suggest a mutual hudna as a prelude to a more lasting peace. In January 2004, senior Hamas leader Abdel Aziz al-Rantissi offered a 10-year hudna in return for complete withdrawal from all territories captured in the Six Day War.
The two Palestinians who were kidnapped/arrested/abducted... Sons of a Hamas activist... Kidnapped from their home following an illegal incursion into Gaza by Israeli forces. And what was the outcome of their kidnap/arrest/abduction?
You have obviously read the re article in some detail and selected a few points to 'discuss'... This would suggest that the remained, the majority, of this lengthy article is pretty accurate...
Yes, the 'questions' are heavily leaning toward making a stand for Gaza but the content is factual and will hopefully show a different side of the story to those wanting to see it.
