More Hope and Change

[Modbert]

How is that relevant to the fact that it was a republican president who enacted such an overreaching authoritarian federal policy??

It was a joke, calm down.

 

[Oddball]

I am calm.

You've posted so much nonsensical shit on this thread that it's hard to tell if your really serious or screwing around.

 

[Modbert]

I am calm.

You've posted so much nonsensical shit on this thread that it's hard to tell if your really serious of screwing around.

If I'm using and a wink, it's probably most likely I'm joking or giving a slight humorous jab.

Speaking of "nonsensical shit":

 

[Annie]

How is that relevant to the fact that it was a republican president who enacted such an overreaching authoritarian federal policy??

It was a joke, calm down.

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Many would be shocked at what Nixon proposed, though was thwarted by Congress. A glimpse:

American President: Richard Milhous Nixon: Domestic Affairs

 

[Modbert]

Many would be shocked at what Nixon proposed, though was thwarted by Congress. A glimpse:

American President: Richard Milhous Nixon: Domestic Affairs

Thanks for the article, I'm going to read it right now.

 

[Annie]

Many would be shocked at what Nixon proposed, though was thwarted by Congress. A glimpse:

American President: Richard Milhous Nixon: Domestic Affairs

Thanks for the article, I'm going to read it right now.

You're welcome. He's one of those presidents that exemplify the best and worst. I spent the my high school and early college years illustrating all of his worst.

 

[Annie]

and change:

TheHill.com - Honduras government gains ground with Congress

Honduras government gains ground with Congress
By Kevin Bogardus and Jordy Yager
Posted: 07/11/09 02:12 PM [ET]
There are tentative signs from Democrats in Congress of support for the forces that removed Honduras President Manuel Zelaya from power at the end of June.

Rep. Eliot Engel (D-N.Y.), chairman of a key House subcommittee with jurisdiction over Honduras, roundly criticized both factions at a Friday hearing. But he also stopped short of calling for Zelaya’s immediate reinstatement, which he’d done in previous statements.

While Engel said the United States and its allies in the Western Hemisphere could not tolerate what appeared to be a military coup, he said Zelaya had ignored his country’s own Supreme Court, legislature and even members of his political party when he sought to change the constitution by seeking a second term as president.

“When the entire political establishment speaks and expresses dire concerns, the President needed to listen. From everything I can see, he did not,” Engel said during the hearing of his House Foreign Affairs subcommittee on the Western Hemisphere.

In a statement on June 29, a day after Zelaya was removed, Engel called for Zelaya’s immediate reinstatement.

“I strongly condemn the removal of President Zelaya and believe that he should be reinstated without delay,” Engel said in the statement.

The Obama administration has tread carefully since Zelaya’s removal. It has called for the reinstatement of Zelaya, an ally of Venezeula strongman Hugo Chavez. President Obama said Zelaya’s removal was illegal, but the administration has pressed for a negotiated solution....

 

[DamnYankee]

Speaking of "change", what the hell happened to "pay as you go"?

Democrats Agree on Tax Hike to Fund Health Care
(By Lori Montgomery, The Washington Post)
Saturday, July 11, 2009

House Democrats agreed yesterday to raise taxes on the wealthy to pay for a sweeping expansion of the nation's health-care system, proposing a surtax on the highest earners that could send the top federal tax rate toward 45 percent.

washingtonpost.com

 

[Midnight Marauder]

Speaking of "change", what the hell happened to "pay as you go"?

It's now a toothless, very watered-down House "guideline" they don't even pay any attention to anyway. This after years of blaming Booooosh for "letting it die" which, he didn't. They did. Then after years of demonization and demagoguery, have done absolutely zilch with their unfettered power, to bring it back.

 

[DamnYankee]

Speaking of "change", what the hell happened to "pay as you go"?

It's now a toothless, very watered-down House "guideline" they don't even pay any attention to anyway. This after years of blaming Booooosh for "letting it die" which, he didn't. They did. Then after years of demonization and demagoguery, have done absolutely zilch with their unfettered power, to bring it back.

Considering it was a Pelosi mantra, it really was a rhetorical question....

 

[Paulie]

Keep voting for the media driven candidates, and every fucking one of you is going to be arguing about who broke what promise, who's fake, which side is worse, etc.

Dems and Repubs. The idiots who voted for Bush are just as fucking stupid as the ones who voted for Obama. While we're at it, we shouldn't have had Gore, Kerry, and McCain to choose from as the alternatives, either. But the electorate is too fucking stupid to have it any other way.

 

[Midnight Marauder]

Keep voting for the media driven candidates, and every fucking one of you is going to be arguing about who broke what promise, who's fake, which side is worse, etc.

Dems and Repubs. The idiots who voted for Bush are just as fucking stupid as the ones who voted for Obama. While we're at it, we shouldn't have had Gore, Kerry, and McCain to choose from as the alternatives, either. But the electorate is too fucking stupid to have it any other way.

Actually, as soon as the electorate begins to realize it's the CONGRESS, not the President, who fucks shit up and keeps it fucked up, then we might be getting somewhere.

Blaming the President is the refuge of the weak, uninformed mind.

 

[DiveCon]

Keep voting for the media driven candidates, and every fucking one of you is going to be arguing about who broke what promise, who's fake, which side is worse, etc.

Dems and Repubs. The idiots who voted for Bush are just as fucking stupid as the ones who voted for Obama. While we're at it, we shouldn't have had Gore, Kerry, and McCain to choose from as the alternatives, either. But the electorate is too fucking stupid to have it any other way.

Actually, as soon as the electorate begins to realize it's the CONGRESS, not the President, who fucks shit up and keeps it fucked up, then we might be getting somewhere.

Blaming the President is the refuge of the weak, uninformed mind.

thats it exactly

 

[DamnYankee]

Keep voting for the media driven candidates, and every fucking one of you is going to be arguing about who broke what promise, who's fake, which side is worse, etc.

Dems and Repubs. The idiots who voted for Bush are just as fucking stupid as the ones who voted for Obama. While we're at it, we shouldn't have had Gore, Kerry, and McCain to choose from as the alternatives, either. But the electorate is too fucking stupid to have it any other way.

Actually, as soon as the electorate begins to realize it's the CONGRESS, not the President, who fucks shit up and keeps it fucked up, then we might be getting somewhere.

Blaming the President is the refuge of the weak, uninformed mind.

thats it exactly

It is, but they do need "adult supervision"....