More Evidence That They Just Don’t Get It

[PoliticalChic]

1. "White House Video Game Czar. This person, Constance Steinkuehler, says the job represents “an incredible opportunity to make good on the claim that games have real promise.”

2. ...the left, as represented by this president and his administration, seem to think that anything of value has to come from the government. More than that, it has to come from the White House....These people have no idea what the free market is or how it works.

3. The only thing she can do is force compliance on someone, probably the video game makers, but, given their history, it’s not beyond the imagination that the do-gooders at the White House would force people to buy educational games.... imagine a government bureaucracy monitoring game play.

4. What leftists (statists) don’t understand is that, if there is a desire for games that teach, companies will produce those games. Why? Because it will be profitable to do so....They will be better than anything that could be designed by Constance Steinkuehler, or anyone else in government.

5. If Ms Steinkuehler was a great game designer, she’d be in the private sector designing games and getting rich, not at the White House sucking off of the government teet.

6. For some reason, the left has no problem compelling people to do what they otherwise would choose to do. The way I like to put it is that they like to dictate to people how they should live (what products they should buy, what they should learn, and what they should produce).

7. You can bet that what they’d like to do is create something like a license to produce video games which requires the producer of the game to insert “positive learning” (the message of which will be totally up to the government)...

8. It will impose an enormous and unnecessary cost on the video game makers, doubtlessly costing jobs. Yet Obama will somehow claim he’s created jobs.

9. That is the statist game: dictate what people can do, and force compliance. I’d much rather play a game called “Free Market Capitalism” where people serve their fellow man by providing goods and services people want and need at prices people are willing to pay in a voluntary transaction. Do you think the White House Video Game Czar would create that game? The leftists in the White House don’t even understand how to play it."
More Evidence That They Just Don’t Get It » Political Realities

10. "There are some 1700 White House employees now! Constance Steinkuehler has a six-figure salary."
Obama's "Video Game Czar" Enrages Michael Medved | MRCTV

See....Obama is creating jobs!

 

[TakeAStepBack]

And to think i actually joked about state sponsored video games......they wont stop until they pervert every industry we have and destroy them all. the gubmint has the midas touch in reverse. Everything they touch turns to shit.

 

[Decepticon]

Presently, the industry is at around $22 billion for 2008 (conservative estimate) in the US and $30 to $40 billion globally. Here is how it compares with other entertainment industries.
Music industry - $10.4 billion (US 2008)[25] and $30 to $40 billion globally [26][27]
Movie industry - $9.5 billion (US)[28] and $27 billion globally.[29]
Book industry - $35.69 billion (US 2007) [30] and roughly $63 billion globally (2002) (Euromonitor Intl)
DVD industry - $23 billion (US)[31] (buying $16B, renting $7B)

Video game industry - Video Game Sales Wiki - Video Game Sales, Charts, NPD, Graphs, Video Game Figures, and more!


Yeah, having someone watch over an industry that makes more than the movie and book industry COMBINED is just stoopit!


And before you cast any more stones, you MIGHT want to look up how the Bush family manipulated legislation and strong armed people to push their crappy educational software on millions of kids through the schools.

 

[TakeAStepBack]

Here we go...make it a Bush thing.

Yeah, having someone watch over an industry that makes more than the movie and book industry COMBINED is just stoopit!

it is stupid. What is the white house going to do? Provide a new comittee to tell game developers how they must make products to sell that fit their perceived ideas for "education"?. You do realize that if they encroach in this indusrty they will destroy it just like they destroy every other industry they try to manipulate.

Some people just have no concept of public vs. private enterprise. There is no authority for this on the federal level. Like most power/industry usurps.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

This is a joke, right?

There's no video game czar right?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Presently, the industry is at around $22 billion for 2008 (conservative estimate) in the US and $30 to $40 billion globally. Here is how it compares with other entertainment industries.
Music industry - $10.4 billion (US 2008)[25] and $30 to $40 billion globally [26][27]
Movie industry - $9.5 billion (US)[28] and $27 billion globally.[29]
Book industry - $35.69 billion (US 2007) [30] and roughly $63 billion globally (2002) (Euromonitor Intl)
DVD industry - $23 billion (US)[31] (buying $16B, renting $7B)

Video game industry - Video Game Sales Wiki - Video Game Sales, Charts, NPD, Graphs, Video Game Figures, and more!


Yeah, having someone watch over an industry that makes more than the movie and book industry COMBINED is just stoopit!


And before you cast any more stones, you MIGHT want to look up how the Bush family manipulated legislation and strong armed people to push their crappy educational software on millions of kids through the schools.

Where's the book Czar, Fucking Nazi?

 

[TakeAStepBack]

Apparently, according to the links, there is a fucking game czar. there goes the industry. And the girl makes 6 figures on our dime. The ironing is delicious.

 

[Amelia]

*picks up jaw*

man, I thought I must have wandered over to The Onion.

 

[Decepticon]

Here we go...make it a Bush thing.

Yeah, having someone watch over an industry that makes more than the movie and book industry COMBINED is just stoopit!

it is stupid. What is the white house going to do? Provide a new comittee to tell game developers how they must make products to sell that fit their perceived ideas for "education"?. You do realize that if they encroach in this indusrty they will destroy it just like they destroy every other industry they try to manipulate.

Some people just have no concept of public vs. private enterprise. There is no authority for this on the federal level. Like most power/industry usurps.

Not so much a Bush thing as a "not exclusively Obama thing"



Having a say in the industry is better than not having a say in it, huh?

What you CONZ seem to fail to understand is that when government gets involved regulating an industry, it's for the PUBLIC GOOD, as the PUBLIC GOOD is NOT in the charter of private business. MAKING MONEY is.

You DO know there's a MARKET for child porn, right?
Are you for the free market when it comes to child porn too? Or would you like government regulation and enforcement?

There's a happy medium.
IGNORING an industry isn't an answer.
Besides, who will be the first and loudest to scream if someone in the middle east comes out with a "fly the planes into the WTC game" huh?

 

[Valox]

This is a joke, right?

There's no video game czar right?

This is what I thought too and was a bit flabbergasted. It is a bit hyperbolic, but close on the money. Constance Steinkuehler hold a Senior Policy Analyst at the Office of Science and Technology Policy in the Executive Office of the President.

According to Wiki, The Office of Science and Technology Policy (OSTP) is an office in the Executive Office of the President (EOP), established by Congress on May 11, 1976, with a broad mandate to advise the President on the effects of science and technology on domestic and international affairs.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_of_Science_and_Technology_Policy

In addition, Constance recently received a private $350,000 grant from the MacArthur Foundation to Review and Research on Games and Learning. Financial support for research to examine learning associated with videogame play across multiple domains, and the development of reports and convenings to share the findings of research on games. The purpose of the project is to support research and reports that advance understanding among policymakers, practitioners and civic leaders of the role of games in learning.
http://website.education.wisc.edu/steinkuehler/blog/papers/SteinkuehlerCV.pdf

 

[CrusaderFrank]

This has to be a joke

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Dear God! Its not a joke!!

Constance Steinkuehler currently holds a position as a Senior Policy Analyst at the Office of Science and Technology Policy in the Executive Office of the President. For this position she advises on national policy decisions relating to the impact of video games and also how play relates to learning.[1]

Constance Steinkuehler - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Our government no longer represents us, they treat us like the fucking jokes we are for allowing this

 

[Baruch Menachem]

It's on us Frank

 

[daveman]

Here we go...make it a Bush thing.

Yeah, having someone watch over an industry that makes more than the movie and book industry COMBINED is just stoopit!

it is stupid. What is the white house going to do? Provide a new comittee to tell game developers how they must make products to sell that fit their perceived ideas for "education"?. You do realize that if they encroach in this indusrty they will destroy it just like they destroy every other industry they try to manipulate.

Some people just have no concept of public vs. private enterprise. There is no authority for this on the federal level. Like most power/industry usurps.

Not so much a Bush thing as a "not exclusively Obama thing"



Having a say in the industry is better than not having a say in it, huh?

What you CONZ seem to fail to understand is that when government gets involved regulating an industry, it's for the PUBLIC GOOD, as the PUBLIC GOOD is NOT in the charter of private business. MAKING MONEY is.

You DO know there's a MARKET for child porn, right?
Are you for the free market when it comes to child porn too? Or would you like government regulation and enforcement?

There's a happy medium.
IGNORING an industry isn't an answer.
Besides, who will be the first and loudest to scream if someone in the middle east comes out with a "fly the planes into the WTC game" huh?

News flash: The government doesn't give a shit about you as a person. You're a number, a cog in the machine, something to be told what to do and how to do it.

More government is not the solution. Especially when there's not a problem.

 

[daveman]

Dear God! Its not a joke!!

Constance Steinkuehler currently holds a position as a Senior Policy Analyst at the Office of Science and Technology Policy in the Executive Office of the President. For this position she advises on national policy decisions relating to the impact of video games and also how play relates to learning.[1]

Constance Steinkuehler - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Conservative]

The OP says the game czar is a Constance Steinkuehler. However, all I found online says it is some guy named Jack Thompson... and this was from 2010.

Wait... I found this too...
Constance Steinkuehler | Games Learning Society

Constance Steinkuehler is currently a Senior Policy Analyst at the Office of Science and Technology Policy in the Executive Office of the President where she advises on policy related to games and learning/impact.

Her current work focuses on the potential of virtual worlds to function as sandboxes for the reconstruction (perhaps, reinvigoration) of a new form of twenty-first century citizenship – a “pop cosmopolitanism” marked by the willingness to engage in an increasingly globalized and therefore diverse socio-technical world and the development of intellectual practices crucial to successful navigation within it. Such intellectual practices include informal scientific reasoning, collaborative problem solving, media literacy (defined not just as critical media consumption but also production), computational literacy, and the social learning mechanisms that support the development of such expertise (e.g., reciprocal apprenticeship, collective intelligence).

Not really sure how all that translates into 'Game Czar' though.

 

[asaratis]

Another nail in the coffin....Uncle Sam's!

Next thing you know there'll be a Bar Czar with a Deputy Bar Czar on staff to man every bar in the country. God! Just think how many fucking government jobs the Marxist Asshole Obama can create with that unapproved appointment!! ...and they'll each need a vehicle and an office...and a staff of twenty relatives.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Here we go...make it a Bush thing.

Yeah, having someone watch over an industry that makes more than the movie and book industry COMBINED is just stoopit!

it is stupid. What is the white house going to do? Provide a new comittee to tell game developers how they must make products to sell that fit their perceived ideas for "education"?. You do realize that if they encroach in this indusrty they will destroy it just like they destroy every other industry they try to manipulate.

Some people just have no concept of public vs. private enterprise. There is no authority for this on the federal level. Like most power/industry usurps.

Not so much a Bush thing as a "not exclusively Obama thing"



Having a say in the industry is better than not having a say in it, huh?

What you CONZ seem to fail to understand is that when government gets involved regulating an industry, it's for the PUBLIC GOOD, as the PUBLIC GOOD is NOT in the charter of private business. MAKING MONEY is.

You DO know there's a MARKET for child porn, right?
Are you for the free market when it comes to child porn too? Or would you like government regulation and enforcement?

There's a happy medium.
IGNORING an industry isn't an answer.
Besides, who will be the first and loudest to scream if someone in the middle east comes out with a "fly the planes into the WTC game" huh?

".... it's for the PUBLIC GOOD,...."

What a joke...to thinking folks.

For folks like yourself, who have no trouble allowing the GOVERNMENT to do your thinking, it makes perfect sense.

You probably won't understand this...but here goes:
“we are a nation that HAS a government … not the other way around.”
Reagan

 

[PoliticalChic]

This is a joke, right?

There's no video game czar right?

This is what I thought too and was a bit flabbergasted. It is a bit hyperbolic, but close on the money. Constance Steinkuehler hold a Senior Policy Analyst at the Office of Science and Technology Policy in the Executive Office of the President.

According to Wiki, The Office of Science and Technology Policy (OSTP) is an office in the Executive Office of the President (EOP), established by Congress on May 11, 1976, with a broad mandate to advise the President on the effects of science and technology on domestic and international affairs.
Office of Science and Technology Policy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In addition, Constance recently received a private $350,000 grant from the MacArthur Foundation to Review and Research on Games and Learning. Financial support for research to examine learning associated with videogame play across multiple domains, and the development of reports and convenings to share the findings of research on games. The purpose of the project is to support research and reports that advance understanding among policymakers, practitioners and civic leaders of the role of games in learning.
http://website.education.wisc.edu/steinkuehler/blog/papers/SteinkuehlerCV.pdf

Bravo...for researching the office and nailing it to the Executive.

Obama's expansion of the office echoes the work of FDR, who informed the 'imperial presidency' and placed dozens of agencies under the executive.

This from "FDR Goes To War: How Expanded Executive Power, Spiraling National Debt, And Restricted Civil Liberties Shaped Wartime America," by Burton W. Folsom Jr. and Anita Folsom, which goes into great detail about FDR's unbalancing the three branches.

FDR used WWII to promote his agenda of the welfare state, global intervention as foreign policy, and the dominance of the President on our political system.

This is, no doubt, a model for this President.