Morality and Ethics

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    How do they fit into evolution?
    Sympathy? Empathy?
    Love?


    Were they not there once, and slowly evolved???
     
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    i dont think there was much morality or ethics when people were just trying to survive.....as people were able to evolve and give themselves the luxury of morality and ethics occurs when people have more time to ponder their place in the greater unit....

    most people operate under external containment ....perhaps true evolution is the development of internal containment?
     
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    hmmmmm.......?????????
     
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    okay first man...primitive..did not have the time to ponder morality due to the harsh conditions that required a continual struggle just to survive..morality and ethics are developed as people have the luxury of having extra time and are having an easier time surviving
     
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    Sympathy.
    Empathy.
    Love.
    Concern for unrelated species even when we have never interacted with them.
    Appreciation for beauty, majesty, awesomeness
    Concepts of time and space
    Imagination
    Reverence
    Courage
    Integrity
    Ethics
    Sense of right and wrong

    None of that can be addressed or explained through evolution.
     
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    Sounds more like learned behavior, or training, rather than evolution
     
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    most dogs have higher moral standards than humans imho....
     
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    Even before the rise of civilization, one could argue that hunter-gatherer groups were more likely to succeed and pass on their genes if they were more cohesive. Early religion may have contributed towards keeping the members of a tribe more connected; love, sympathy, loyalty, etc., these things may have been partly responsible for a group's survival over other groups who were less motivated to help each other. Some believe that prehistory was a very violent time with a lot of warfare going on for territory and females. So a group's togetherness could have played a role in contributing to the genetic pool. No way to prove it one way or another, at least not yet.
     
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    The instiinct for survival can rationally be a factor in natural selection.

    But I don't see how evolution played a part in the items on my list. I am open to be convinced that i'm wrong about that.
     
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    Let's start with love. Suppose a man and a woman have baby, say 20,000 years ago. What are the odds of that baby surviving with no love shown to it. If the parents' love for their child does not exceed they instinct for self preservation, the kid is not as likely to make it to adulthood and keep the genetic line going. One might postulate that without love the human species might not have made it out of the trees.
     

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