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Can anyone claim the media did its job vetting him? Even at FOX they never had the debate that he was not an NBC. His birth certificate only proves that.
His birth certificate proves he was born in the US and a citizen at birth. Which is a natural born citizen.
An NBC is a person born in the US with 2 American parents. This covers around 90% of US citizens
A person born in the US to 2 American parents is definitely a natural born citizen. So is a person born in the US to two non-citizens. As natural born status follows place of birth.
According to you not how the rule was intended. They based it on Vattel.
Can anyone claim the media did its job vetting him? Even at FOX they never had the debate that he was not an NBC. His birth certificate only proves that.
His birth certificate proves he was born in the US and a citizen at birth. Which is a natural born citizen.
An NBC is a person born in the US with 2 American parents. This covers around 90% of US citizens
A person born in the US to 2 American parents is definitely a natural born citizen. So is a person born in the US to two non-citizens. As natural born status follows place of birth.
Tell me why they added and subject to the jurisdiction thereof if all one needs is to be born on US soil. If your Mexican citizen then you and your children are under their jurisdiction not that of the US
Can anyone claim the media did its job vetting him? Even at FOX they never had the debate that he was not an NBC. His birth certificate only proves that.
His birth certificate proves he was born in the US and a citizen at birth. Which is a natural born citizen.
An NBC is a person born in the US with 2 American parents. This covers around 90% of US citizens
A person born in the US to 2 American parents is definitely a natural born citizen. So is a person born in the US to two non-citizens. As natural born status follows place of birth.
According to you not how the rule was intended. They based it on Vattel.
According to you.
- At the time the Constitution was written, there was no English translation of Vattel
- There is no evidence that Vattel was ever referenced for the term "Natural Born Citizen"
- At no point in our history has anyone presumed that a natural born citizen requires 2 citizen parents- until Birthers created that definition in 2008.
Can anyone claim the media did its job vetting him? Even at FOX they never had the debate that he was not an NBC. His birth certificate only proves that.
His birth certificate proves he was born in the US and a citizen at birth. Which is a natural born citizen.
An NBC is a person born in the US with 2 American parents. This covers around 90% of US citizens
A person born in the US to 2 American parents is definitely a natural born citizen. So is a person born in the US to two non-citizens. As natural born status follows place of birth.
According to you not how the rule was intended. They based it on Vattel. Also a correct reading of the 14th amendment indicates that just being born on US soil does not make one a citizen. It was written to make the slaves citizens not illegal aliens
Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Tell me why they added and subject to the jurisdiction thereof if all one needs is to be born on US soil. If your Mexican citizen then you and your children are under their jurisdiction not that of the US
So all Mexican citizens and their children in the US have diplomatic immunity, putting them beyond the jurisdiction of US laws?
If no, then your argument just went 'kaput'.
Can anyone claim the media did its job vetting him? Even at FOX they never had the debate that he was not an NBC. His birth certificate only proves that.
His birth certificate proves he was born in the US and a citizen at birth. Which is a natural born citizen.
An NBC is a person born in the US with 2 American parents. This covers around 90% of US citizens
A person born in the US to 2 American parents is definitely a natural born citizen. So is a person born in the US to two non-citizens. As natural born status follows place of birth.
According to you not how the rule was intended. They based it on Vattel. Also a correct reading of the 14th amendment indicates that just being born on US soil does not make one a citizen. It was written to make the slaves citizens not illegal aliens
Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Tell me why they added and subject to the jurisdiction thereof if all one needs is to be born on US soil. If your Mexican citizen then you and your children are under their jurisdiction not that of the US
So all Mexican citizens and their children in the US have diplomatic immunity, putting them beyond the jurisdiction of US laws?
If no, then your argument just went 'kaput'.
Nope they are still under Mexican jurisdiction and our laws require they be returned there.
Can anyone claim the media did its job vetting him? Even at FOX they never had the debate that he was not an NBC. His birth certificate only proves that.
His birth certificate proves he was born in the US and a citizen at birth. Which is a natural born citizen.
An NBC is a person born in the US with 2 American parents. This covers around 90% of US citizens
A person born in the US to 2 American parents is definitely a natural born citizen. So is a person born in the US to two non-citizens. As natural born status follows place of birth.
According to you not how the rule was intended. They based it on Vattel.
According to you.
- At the time the Constitution was written, there was no English translation of Vattel
- There is no evidence that Vattel was ever referenced for the term "Natural Born Citizen"
- At no point in our history has anyone presumed that a natural born citizen requires 2 citizen parents- until Birthers created that definition in 2008.
At the time the Constittuion was written there as an English translation of the Law of Nations by Vattel. But it didn't include the term 'natural born citizen'. That wouldn't be added until the 1790s, and bizarrely used the word 'indigines' as its basis. Which means 'indigienous'. Not 'natural born citizen.
Its a physical impossibility for Vattel's law of nations to have been the basis of the founders understanding of the term "natural born".
Can anyone claim the media did its job vetting him? Even at FOX they never had the debate that he was not an NBC. His birth certificate only proves that.
His birth certificate proves he was born in the US and a citizen at birth. Which is a natural born citizen.
An NBC is a person born in the US with 2 American parents. This covers around 90% of US citizens
A person born in the US to 2 American parents is definitely a natural born citizen. So is a person born in the US to two non-citizens. As natural born status follows place of birth.
According to you not how the rule was intended. They based it on Vattel. Also a correct reading of the 14th amendment indicates that just being born on US soil does not make one a citizen. It was written to make the slaves citizens not illegal aliens
Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Tell me why they added and subject to the jurisdiction thereof if all one needs is to be born on US soil. If your Mexican citizen then you and your children are under their jurisdiction not that of the US
So all Mexican citizens and their children in the US have diplomatic immunity, putting them beyond the jurisdiction of US laws?
If no, then your argument just went 'kaput'.
Nope they are still under Mexican jurisdiction and our laws require they be returned there.
So if a Mexican commits a crime in the US, we can't arrest them for it?
We can arrest them.
Can anyone claim the media did its job vetting him? Even at FOX they never had the debate that he was not an NBC. His birth certificate only proves that.
His birth certificate proves he was born in the US and a citizen at birth. Which is a natural born citizen.
An NBC is a person born in the US with 2 American parents. This covers around 90% of US citizens
A person born in the US to 2 American parents is definitely a natural born citizen. So is a person born in the US to two non-citizens. As natural born status follows place of birth.
According to you not how the rule was intended. They based it on Vattel.
According to you.
- At the time the Constitution was written, there was no English translation of Vattel
- There is no evidence that Vattel was ever referenced for the term "Natural Born Citizen"
- At no point in our history has anyone presumed that a natural born citizen requires 2 citizen parents- until Birthers created that definition in 2008.
At the time the Constittuion was written there as an English translation of the Law of Nations by Vattel. But it didn't include the term 'natural born citizen'. That wouldn't be added until the 1790s, and bizarrely used the word 'indigines' as its basis. Which means 'indigienous'. Not 'natural born citizen.
Its a physical impossibility for Vattel's law of nations to have been the basis of the founders understanding of the term "natural born".
We can arrest them.
Then they're subject to the jurisdiction of the US.
Can anyone claim the media did its job vetting him? Even at FOX they never had the debate that he was not an NBC. His birth certificate only proves that.
His birth certificate proves he was born in the US and a citizen at birth. Which is a natural born citizen.
An NBC is a person born in the US with 2 American parents. This covers around 90% of US citizens
A person born in the US to 2 American parents is definitely a natural born citizen. So is a person born in the US to two non-citizens. As natural born status follows place of birth.
According to you not how the rule was intended. They based it on Vattel.
According to you.
- At the time the Constitution was written, there was no English translation of Vattel
- There is no evidence that Vattel was ever referenced for the term "Natural Born Citizen"
- At no point in our history has anyone presumed that a natural born citizen requires 2 citizen parents- until Birthers created that definition in 2008.
At the time the Constittuion was written there as an English translation of the Law of Nations by Vattel. But it didn't include the term 'natural born citizen'. That wouldn't be added until the 1790s, and bizarrely used the word 'indigines' as its basis. Which means 'indigienous'. Not 'natural born citizen.
Its a physical impossibility for Vattel's law of nations to have been the basis of the founders understanding of the term "natural born".
Your right we all know the founders were a bunch of literate dolts . None of them could speak or read French
His birth certificate proves he was born in the US and a citizen at birth. Which is a natural born citizen.
A person born in the US to 2 American parents is definitely a natural born citizen. So is a person born in the US to two non-citizens. As natural born status follows place of birth.
According to you not how the rule was intended. They based it on Vattel.
According to you.
- At the time the Constitution was written, there was no English translation of Vattel
- There is no evidence that Vattel was ever referenced for the term "Natural Born Citizen"
- At no point in our history has anyone presumed that a natural born citizen requires 2 citizen parents- until Birthers created that definition in 2008.
At the time the Constittuion was written there as an English translation of the Law of Nations by Vattel. But it didn't include the term 'natural born citizen'. That wouldn't be added until the 1790s, and bizarrely used the word 'indigines' as its basis. Which means 'indigienous'. Not 'natural born citizen.
Its a physical impossibility for Vattel's law of nations to have been the basis of the founders understanding of the term "natural born".
Your right we all know the founders were a bunch of literate dolts . None of them could speak or read French
Many of them could read French.
Which is why they would never have interpreted Vattel like you do.
Can anyone claim the media did its job vetting him? Even at FOX they never had the debate that he was not an NBC. His birth certificate only proves that.
His birth certificate proves he was born in the US and a citizen at birth. Which is a natural born citizen.
An NBC is a person born in the US with 2 American parents. This covers around 90% of US citizens
A person born in the US to 2 American parents is definitely a natural born citizen. So is a person born in the US to two non-citizens. As natural born status follows place of birth.
According to you not how the rule was intended. They based it on Vattel. Also a correct reading of the 14th amendment indicates that just being born on US soil does not make one a citizen. It was written to make the slaves citizens not illegal aliens
Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Tell me why they added and subject to the jurisdiction thereof if all one needs is to be born on US soil. If your Mexican citizen then you and your children are under their jurisdiction not that of the US
So all Mexican citizens and their children in the US have diplomatic immunity, putting them beyond the jurisdiction of US laws?
If no, then your argument just went 'kaput'.
Nope they are still under Mexican jurisdiction and our laws require they be returned there.
According to you not how the rule was intended. They based it on Vattel.
According to you.
- At the time the Constitution was written, there was no English translation of Vattel
- There is no evidence that Vattel was ever referenced for the term "Natural Born Citizen"
- At no point in our history has anyone presumed that a natural born citizen requires 2 citizen parents- until Birthers created that definition in 2008.
At the time the Constittuion was written there as an English translation of the Law of Nations by Vattel. But it didn't include the term 'natural born citizen'. That wouldn't be added until the 1790s, and bizarrely used the word 'indigines' as its basis. Which means 'indigienous'. Not 'natural born citizen.
Its a physical impossibility for Vattel's law of nations to have been the basis of the founders understanding of the term "natural born".
Your right we all know the founders were a bunch of literate dolts . None of them could speak or read French
Many of them could read French.
Which is why they would never have interpreted Vattel like you do.
That is not my interpretation as I neither speak or read french
Can anyone claim the media did its job vetting him? Even at FOX they never had the debate that he was not an NBC. His birth certificate only proves that.
His birth certificate proves he was born in the US and a citizen at birth. Which is a natural born citizen.
An NBC is a person born in the US with 2 American parents. This covers around 90% of US citizens
A person born in the US to 2 American parents is definitely a natural born citizen. So is a person born in the US to two non-citizens. As natural born status follows place of birth.
According to you not how the rule was intended. They based it on Vattel.
According to you.
- At the time the Constitution was written, there was no English translation of Vattel
- There is no evidence that Vattel was ever referenced for the term "Natural Born Citizen"
- At no point in our history has anyone presumed that a natural born citizen requires 2 citizen parents- until Birthers created that definition in 2008.
At the time the Constittuion was written there as an English translation of the Law of Nations by Vattel. But it didn't include the term 'natural born citizen'. That wouldn't be added until the 1790s, and bizarrely used the word 'indigines' as its basis. Which means 'indigienous'. Not 'natural born citizen.
Its a physical impossibility for Vattel's law of nations to have been the basis of the founders understanding of the term "natural born".
Your right we all know the founders were a bunch of literate dolts . None of them could speak or read French
Can anyone claim the media did its job vetting him? Even at FOX they never had the debate that he was not an NBC. His birth certificate only proves that.
His birth certificate proves he was born in the US and a citizen at birth. Which is a natural born citizen.
An NBC is a person born in the US with 2 American parents. This covers around 90% of US citizens
A person born in the US to 2 American parents is definitely a natural born citizen. So is a person born in the US to two non-citizens. As natural born status follows place of birth.
According to you not how the rule was intended. They based it on Vattel. Also a correct reading of the 14th amendment indicates that just being born on US soil does not make one a citizen. It was written to make the slaves citizens not illegal aliens
Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Tell me why they added and subject to the jurisdiction thereof if all one needs is to be born on US soil. If your Mexican citizen then you and your children are under their jurisdiction not that of the US
So all Mexican citizens and their children in the US have diplomatic immunity, putting them beyond the jurisdiction of US laws?
If no, then your argument just went 'kaput'.
Nope they are still under Mexican jurisdiction and our laws require they be returned there.
Our laws require no such thing.
We have a proud history of executing foreign citizens- most recently a Mexican in Texas.
Sure seems like he was withing the full jurisdiction when he was executed to me.
We can arrest them.
Then they're subject to the jurisdiction of the US.
So if everyone here is under our jurisdiction why even add it? These people are under dual jurisdiction. The US does not recognize dual citizenship
We can arrest them.
Then they're subject to the jurisdiction of the US.
So if everyone here is under our jurisdiction why even add it? These people are under dual jurisdiction. The US does not recognize dual citizenship
His birth certificate proves he was born in the US and a citizen at birth. Which is a natural born citizen.
A person born in the US to 2 American parents is definitely a natural born citizen. So is a person born in the US to two non-citizens. As natural born status follows place of birth.
According to you not how the rule was intended. They based it on Vattel. Also a correct reading of the 14th amendment indicates that just being born on US soil does not make one a citizen. It was written to make the slaves citizens not illegal aliens
Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Tell me why they added and subject to the jurisdiction thereof if all one needs is to be born on US soil. If your Mexican citizen then you and your children are under their jurisdiction not that of the US
So all Mexican citizens and their children in the US have diplomatic immunity, putting them beyond the jurisdiction of US laws?
If no, then your argument just went 'kaput'.
Nope they are still under Mexican jurisdiction and our laws require they be returned there.
Our laws require no such thing.
We have a proud history of executing foreign citizens- most recently a Mexican in Texas.
Sure seems like he was withing the full jurisdiction when he was executed to me.
So now your claiming our laws do not require deporting illegal aliens?
His birth certificate proves he was born in the US and a citizen at birth. Which is a natural born citizen.
A person born in the US to 2 American parents is definitely a natural born citizen. So is a person born in the US to two non-citizens. As natural born status follows place of birth.
According to you not how the rule was intended. They based it on Vattel. Also a correct reading of the 14th amendment indicates that just being born on US soil does not make one a citizen. It was written to make the slaves citizens not illegal aliens
Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Tell me why they added and subject to the jurisdiction thereof if all one needs is to be born on US soil. If your Mexican citizen then you and your children are under their jurisdiction not that of the US
So all Mexican citizens and their children in the US have diplomatic immunity, putting them beyond the jurisdiction of US laws?
If no, then your argument just went 'kaput'.
Nope they are still under Mexican jurisdiction and our laws require they be returned there.
Our laws require no such thing.
We have a proud history of executing foreign citizens- most recently a Mexican in Texas.
Sure seems like he was withing the full jurisdiction when he was executed to me.
So now your claiming our laws do not require deporting illegal aliens?
pelled out the intent of the 14th Amendment by stating:We can arrest them.
Then they're subject to the jurisdiction of the US.
So if everyone here is under our jurisdiction why even add it? These people are under dual jurisdiction. The US does not recognize dual citizenship
Already addressed-
Diplomats- and their children born here- are not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States- nor were American Indians who were not taxed(living on sovereign land).
The United States has complete jurisdiction over foreign nationals while they are in our country- we can arrest them, imprison them, eject them and even execute them.
