'Mohammed' is now the third most popular boy's name in England

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Mohammed is now the third most popular boy's name in England. So why this shabby effort to conceal it?

By Max Hastings
Last updated at 4:02 AM on 11th September 2009


This week, the Office of National Statistics published a list of the most popular boys' names in Britain: Jack, Oliver, Thomas, Harry, Joshua, Alfie, Charlie, Daniel.

They reflect a cultural tradition as old as the nation's history, and would provoke approving nods from Jack the Ripper, Oliver Cromwell, Thomas Becket and Harry Hotspur.

There is just one small problem: the list is deceitful. In reality, the third most popular choice for boy children born last year in England and Wales was not Thomas, but Mohammed.

Deceitful: When both spellings of Mohammed are combined it is the third most popular boys' name in Britain

The ONS explains blithely that it had no intent to deceive. Its normal practice is to catalogue different spellings separately, as in Mohammed, Muhammed and so on.

But if you add these variants together, as surely seems logical, then Mohammed is right up there, near the top of the list.

Unfortunately, in recent times we have been given plentiful cause for paranoia about attempts by official bodies to conceal from us information about the changing face of Britain which our rulers know that many people will not like.

Immigration figures are routinely distorted. In a rare moment of honesty, a Labour Home Secretary conceded that he had no idea just how many migrants dwell in this country, because of the huge and unquantified pool of illegals.

Many EU nations decline to collate statistics about the religious affiliations of their populations, to avoid rousing sentiment against Muslims.

The ONS's hit parade of children's names, as released for publication, seemed designed to mask a simple truth which dismays millions of people, and which politicians and bureaucracies go to great lengths to bury: the Muslim population of Britain is growing extraordinarily fast.

In 2007, 28 per cent of children born in England and Wales, rising to 54 per cent in London, had at least one foreign-born parent. In 2008, 14.4 per cent of primary school children claimed some other tongue than English as their first language.

The Muslim population is now close to two million, over 3 per cent, and rising fast because Muslim families have more children than most of the rest of us, many of them named Mohammed or Muhammed.

Muslim population has doubled in 30 years, and will double again on present projections by 2015. By 2060, Britain is expected to be the most populous nation in the EU, with 77 million people - this, though today Germany's population is 20 million larger than ours.

A bleak body of pundits, many of them American neoconservatives rather than spokesmen of the British National Party, believe that Europe, and Britain in particular, is threatened by a Muslim tide which will not merely transform its traditional culture but, frankly, bury it.

In a series of recent books, they argue that Islam is colonising this continent in a fashion that will render it unrecognisable a generation or two hence.

Even if this is overstated, the statistics paint a grim picture for those of us who do not wish to live in a small island crowded with 77 million people, even if most of the newcomers were white Australian Christians.

No government massage of the numbers can blunt the fact that a host of migrants is here, most of whom espouse an entirely different cultural tradition from our own.

If a fraction of what we are told about the threat posed by climate change to the world's poorer societies is true, then vastly more of their inhabitants will seek to move West in the decades ahead.

Terrifying: But 2060 Britain is predicted to have a population of 77 million

It seems fantastically na've to suppose that many of these newcomers - or even their children born here - will start reading Jane Austen or tuning in to The Archers. They are likely to change Britain, and indeed Europe, more than we shall change them.

The big thing that makes this wave of immigrants so different from those of the past, who became integrated into our society and our ways, is that it is so vast. After World War II, some thousands of Poles settled here, who could not face returning to a communist tyranny.

Many of them had names like Wladyslaw or Miroslaw. Yet when they married and had children, few gave these Polish names. Most became Jacks and Olivers and Harrys. Today, their grandchildren are indistinguishable from ours.

It is hard to believe the same will be true in Birmingham or Leicester, where Muslims are soon expected to outnumber whites. Today, the adolescent children of immigrants tell pollsters that they feel much less integrated into British society than many of their parents profess.

The problem is intensified by cultural problems which are entirely of our own creation: we, the old British, have grown deeply unsure about what we believe in. This helps to explain our fervent attachment to the memory of World War II.

It is a much more powerful force than Christianity. It was the last event in our collective experience about which we are sure we were on the right side, and did well.

Ed Husain, the former Muslim radical whose 2007 book The Islamist painted vivid images both of the shortcomings of British society and Muslim attitudes towards this, wrote: 'In mosques, after prayers, many of my Muslim friends rightly ask what we are supposed to integrate into. 'Big Brother' lifestyle? Ladette culture? Binge drinking? Gambling?'

A society capable of elevating Jade Goody from victim into iconic martyr; whose juries repeatedly refuse to convict footballers even on overwhelming evidence because they are granted the privileges of secular saints; where four-letter language is happily indulged by the BBC and schools seem unable to produce literate children, is scarcely in a strong position to pontificate about British values.

In any discussion about Muslims, we should acknowledge that the morality prevailing in many of their households is at least the equal of ours, and sometimes superior to it.

Because we know this, because we have lost confidence in our own cultural identity, we flail and blather about how to respond to the unprecedented ethnic and demographic turmoil which our politicians have unleashed upon us.

Muslims in Britain will become eager to integrate only when they perceive our society as possessing equal or superior virtues to their own, as today many do not. Only in the treatment of women can we claim to occupy conspicuously higher ground.

Even those of us who deplore the almost uncontrolled tide of immigration should acknowledge huge problems in our own society - the loss of shared disciplines, values and respect - for which newcomers bear no responsibility.

Britain, two generations hence, threatens to become a mere camp site for 77 million people of many races, for whom this represents a mere place to sleep, eat and make money. To avert this, we must address a series of related challenges.

First the next British government must effectively limit immigration. Thereafter, we should follow the French in outlawing the most conspicuous manifestations of cultural separateness, notably the face veil in schools, in law courts and other publicly administered institutions, and at airport security.

Most important, we must rediscover a belief in ourselves, a sense not so much of British nationality as of British community, which others can see the merits of sharing. Parts of this country - its middle-class islands - are still wonderful places to inhabit. They are still definably old Britain.

Others, above all the inner cities, seem lost to civilisation. Everyone outside them, and especially our politicians, have abandoned them to unemployed families, feral children, unchecked crime and huge immigrant communities which may live in this country, but are tragically not of it.

Unless we can reclaim these huge areas, and their inhabitants, we shall become a divided society, no longer recognisably British, of which a host of young Mohammeds and Muhammeds will be the symbols.

© 2009 Associated Newspapers Ltd

Mohammed is now the third most popular boy's name in England
 
There is a group against the Islamafication of Eurpoe who had a protest outside of a Mosque in Harrow, UK today. They were no angels, but members of that 'nation of peace' (Islam) decided to attack them. Cops prevented folks wanting to be a part of the protest against the Islamafication of Europe from even entering the block where it was taking place.

Police Separate Clashing Protesters Outside London Mosque
Friday , September 11, 200

Police have separated a small group of anti-Muslim protesters from a crowd outside a northwest London mosque.

Police prevented members of Stop Islamification of Europe from approaching a crowd of several hundred that had gathered outside the Harrow Central Mosque.
....
FOXNews.com - Police Separate Clashing Protesters Outside London Mosque - International News | News of the World | Middle East News | Europe News

Hooray for Islam. :doubt:
Hooray for the death of free speech and assembly in the UK.
 
yup. Mark your calendars. TODAY PEOPLE OF OPPOSING OPINIONS CLASHED!


:rofl:
 
yup. Mark your calendars. TODAY PEOPLE OF OPPOSING OPINIONS CLASHED!


:rofl:
Pay attention. Police prevented protesters from assembling because the cops were afraid it would cause problems.

It's the UK, so they don't have those rights guaranteed, but I would imagine anyone who is a fan of the right to free speech and assembly - one of those rights in the Constitution, ya know - would find that at least distasteful.

Guess not.
 
yup. Mark your calendars. TODAY PEOPLE OF OPPOSING OPINIONS CLASHED!


:rofl:
Pay attention. Police prevented proteste/rs from assembling because the cops were afraid it would cause problems.

It's the UK, so they don't have those rights guaranteed, but I would imagine anyone who is a fan of the right to free speech and assembly - one of those rights in the Constitution, ya know - would find that at least distasteful.

Guess not.

or, rather, a learned person might go ahead and realize that oppositions have clashed since day fucking one of civilization and that musims reacting violently are no more of a mitigating factor than your generalization is reflective.


But, trust me. When someone asks where I was on 9/11 I'll be sure to ask them if they mean 2001 or 2009.


:thup:
 
this reminds me of:
Seth: And you landed on McLovin...
Fogell: Yeah. It was between that or Muhammed.
Seth: Why the FUCK would it be between THAT or Muhammed? Why don't you just pick a common name like a normal person?
Fogell: Muhammed is the most commonly used name on Earth. Read a fucking book for once.
Evan: Fogell, have you actually ever met anyone named Muhammed?
Fogell: Have YOU actually ever met anyone named McLovin
 

I think this shows that the U.K. will be a Muslim country before many people realized.

yea... i'm sure the popularity of a name is the paul revere of cultural occupation. FUCK! JUST THINK ABOUT WHEN JOSE ECLIPSES JOHN IN THE UNITED YEEEHAW STATES!


:rofl:


indeed. We'll most certainly be Mexico then. :cuckoo:
 
yup. Mark your calendars. TODAY PEOPLE OF OPPOSING OPINIONS CLASHED!


:rofl:
Pay attention. Police prevented proteste/rs from assembling because the cops were afraid it would cause problems.

It's the UK, so they don't have those rights guaranteed, but I would imagine anyone who is a fan of the right to free speech and assembly - one of those rights in the Constitution, ya know - would find that at least distasteful.

Guess not.

or, rather, a learned person might go ahead and realize that oppositions have clashed since day fucking one of civilization and that musims reacting violently are no more of a mitigating factor than your generalization is reflective.


But, trust me. When someone asks where I was on 9/11 I'll be sure to ask them if they mean 2001 or 2009.


:thup:
The violation of a fundamental human right of free speech and assembly obviously is not important to you. Good to know.
 
From its violent beginnings in the spring of 1919, the impulse of Italian Fascism was to silence opposition, through intimidation or coercion. Fascism's first spectacular event was the destruction of a newspaper office: the Socialist newspaper of which Mussolini had been editor until 1915. In power Mussolini inherited established practices of censorship which came to be extended to school reform, media regulation and innovative cultural policy. Mussolini's first press officer, when he fell from grace, spent years in prison and internal exile. Over the twenty years in power the Prime Minister's Press Office developed into an independent industry, first presided over by Mussolini's son-in-law, Galeazzo Ciano, becoming in 1937 the world's first Ministry for Popular Culture. (Ciano was shot as a traitor in 1944). Censorship and Common Sense in Fascist Italy, 1922-43 tells the stories of policy makers and implementers, and of the ordinary people caught up in its machinations, whether as eager supporters or as victims.
http://www.palgrave.com/products/title.aspx?is=0230543081

[Emphasis added]
 
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Pay attention. Police prevented proteste/rs from assembling because the cops were afraid it would cause problems.

It's the UK, so they don't have those rights guaranteed, but I would imagine anyone who is a fan of the right to free speech and assembly - one of those rights in the Constitution, ya know - would find that at least distasteful.

Guess not.

or, rather, a learned person might go ahead and realize that oppositions have clashed since day fucking one of civilization and that musims reacting violently are no more of a mitigating factor than your generalization is reflective.


But, trust me. When someone asks where I was on 9/11 I'll be sure to ask them if they mean 2001 or 2009.


:thup:
The violation of a fundamental human right of free speech and assembly obviously is not important to you. Good to know.

Our Constitution doesn't apply to the UK. Nor is wrapping up a violent reaction anything close to shutting down speech. Were that the case you probably would not find yourself on a message board REGURGITATING THE FUCKING STORY.

But, please, keep on with the martyr routine. I'm probably not laughing at you or anything.


:thup:
 
I think this shows that the U.K. will be a Muslim country before many people realized.

yea... i'm sure the popularity of a name is the paul revere of cultural occupation. FUCK! JUST THINK ABOUT WHEN JOSE ECLIPSES JOHN IN THE UNITED YEEEHAW STATES!


:rofl:


indeed. We'll most certainly be Mexico then. :cuckoo:


We are not talking about Mexican names in the U.S..

Whatsa matter, lil guy? A little perspective bitchslap your original outrage?
 
From its violent beginnings in the spring of 1919, the impulse of Italian Fascism was to silence opposition, through intimidation or coercion. Fascism's first spectacular event was the destruction of a newspaper office: the Socialist newspaper of which Mussolini had been editor until 1915. In power Mussolini inherited established practices of censorship which came to be extended to school reform, media regulation and innovative cultural policy. Mussolini's first press officer, when he fell from grace, spent years in prison and internal exile. Over the twenty years in power the Prime Minister's Press Office developed into an independent industry, first presided over by Mussolini's son-in-law, Galeazzo Ciano, becoming in 1937 the world's first Ministry for Popular Culture. (Ciano was shot as a traitor in 1944). Censorship and Common Sense in Fascist Italy, 1922-43 tells the stories of policy makers and implementers, and of the ordinary people caught up in its machinations, whether as eager supporters or as victims.
Censorship in Fascist Italy, 1922-43

[Emphasis added]

HOLY SHIT!!!

look at all those NEWSPAPERS BURNING IN ENGLAND!


:lol:


it's easy to see where the parable of chicken little comes from.
 
yea... i'm sure the popularity of a name is the paul revere of cultural occupation. FUCK! JUST THINK ABOUT WHEN JOSE ECLIPSES JOHN IN THE UNITED YEEEHAW STATES!


:rofl:


indeed. We'll most certainly be Mexico then. :cuckoo:


We are not talking about Mexican names in the U.S..

Whatsa matter, lil guy? A little perspective bitchslap your original outrage?


You offered no perspective at all.

Mexicans are no comparison to Muslims. I would bet that the U.K. would trade all of it's Muslims for twice as many Mexicans. Happily.
 
The violation of a fundamental human right of free speech and assembly obviously is not important to you. Good to know.

It's not a violation of free speech. Free speech doesn't include a right to trespass.
 

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