Modern Israel's borders

[theliq]

Israeli say so.

International law says so. There were no other nations existing at the time. Palestine did not declare sovereignty until 1988. Between 1922 and 1988 there were literally no other options for sovereignty. Just some vague ideas of "rights". Vague ideas of rights do not grant you sovereignty. The people seeking those rights have to act on them.

International law says so.

OK, where?

Vague ideas of rights do not grant you sovereignty.

Sovereignty is not granted. It is inherent.

Is is granted when a territory is controlled by another entity.

It's certainly not retroactive.

Indeed, it can be controlled by another entity. That is called illegal external interference.

So, the Ottoman Empire illegally controlled the territory for centuries illegally?

SO HAVE THE ZIONISTS

 

[P F Tinmore]

Israeli say so.

International law says so. There were no other nations existing at the time. Palestine did not declare sovereignty until 1988. Between 1922 and 1988 there were literally no other options for sovereignty. Just some vague ideas of "rights". Vague ideas of rights do not grant you sovereignty. The people seeking those rights have to act on them.

International law says so.

OK, where?

Vague ideas of rights do not grant you sovereignty.

Sovereignty is not granted. It is inherent.

Is is granted when a territory is controlled by another entity.

It's certainly not retroactive.

Indeed, it can be controlled by another entity. That is called illegal external interference.

So, the Ottoman Empire illegally controlled the territory for centuries illegally?

Not really. Back then, conquest was not illegal. Conquest was illegal in the 20th century.

 

[Hollie]

International law says so. There were no other nations existing at the time. Palestine did not declare sovereignty until 1988. Between 1922 and 1988 there were literally no other options for sovereignty. Just some vague ideas of "rights". Vague ideas of rights do not grant you sovereignty. The people seeking those rights have to act on them.

International law says so.

OK, where?

Vague ideas of rights do not grant you sovereignty.

Sovereignty is not granted. It is inherent.

Is is granted when a territory is controlled by another entity.

It's certainly not retroactive.

Indeed, it can be controlled by another entity. That is called illegal external interference.

So, the Ottoman Empire illegally controlled the territory for centuries illegally?

Not really. Back then, conquest was not illegal. Conquest was illegal in the 20th century.

Odd that you would attempt to lecture anyone on legalities. The Hamas Charter lays out the goals of conquest and mass slaughter as a part of the re-conquest of land within the State of Israel. As is typical, Islamics have a sense of “legal” that is still based on 7th century precepts.

 

[rylah]

The Jewish Nation was vested with the sovereignty over all of Palestine,
by an act of international law.

Was there any other nation mentioned?

Israeli say so.

Yet You stubbornly evade the opportunity to contradict that -
because I'm correct:

The Jewish Nation was vested with sovereignty over all of Palestine.

 

[rylah]

International law says so.

OK, where?

San Remo Conference, combined with art.22 of the League of Nations

Vague ideas of rights do not grant you sovereignty.

Sovereignty is not granted. It is inherent.

Then the Arab invaders have no claim, inheritance makes it obsolete and returns it all to the Jewish nation. The return to inherent sovereignty was enacted , by international law since April 24 1920, to the rightful claimant with the longest history of inheritance, per Your definition.

 

[P F Tinmore]

The Jewish Nation was vested with the sovereignty over all of Palestine,
by an act of international law.

Was there any other nation mentioned?

Israeli say so.

Yet You stubbornly evade the opportunity to contradict that -
because I'm correct:

The Jewish Nation was vested with sovereignty over all of Palestine.

Israeli say so.

 

[rylah]

The Jewish Nation was vested with the sovereignty over all of Palestine,
by an act of international law.

Was there any other nation mentioned?

Israeli say so.

Yet You stubbornly evade the opportunity to contradict that -
because I'm correct:

The Jewish Nation was vested with sovereignty over all of Palestine.

Israeli say so.

The Jewish Nation was vested with sovereignty over all of Palestine.

9 years of Your daily Jihadi love singing on this forum, go in drain thus ruining all of Arab claims, with one simple statement of fact.

Never thought it would end up so easy.

 

[P F Tinmore]

The Jewish Nation was vested with the sovereignty over all of Palestine,
by an act of international law.

Was there any other nation mentioned?

Israeli say so.

Yet You stubbornly evade the opportunity to contradict that -
because I'm correct:

The Jewish Nation was vested with sovereignty over all of Palestine.

Israeli say so.

The Jewish Nation was vested with sovereignty over all of Palestine.

9 years of Your daily Jihadi love singing on this forum, go in drain thus ruining all of Arab claims, with one simple statement of fact.

Never thought it would end up so easy.

Ducking questions for three years

 

[rylah]

The Jewish Nation was vested with the sovereignty over all of Palestine,
by an act of international law.

Was there any other nation mentioned?

Israeli say so.

Yet You stubbornly evade the opportunity to contradict that -
because I'm correct:

The Jewish Nation was vested with sovereignty over all of Palestine.

Israeli say so.

The Jewish Nation was vested with sovereignty over all of Palestine.

9 years of Your daily Jihadi love singing on this forum, go in drain thus ruining all of Arab claims, with one simple statement of fact.

Never thought it would end up so easy.

Ducking questions for three years

My 3 years of research turned Your 9 to a defenseless dead end.
So what should we conclude, can't contradict this simple statement of fact?

The Jewish Nation was vested with sovereignty over all of Palestine.

 

[Shusha]

Sovereignty is not granted. It is inherent.

That is a meaningless statement, if you have ever wrote one.

If sovereignty is INHERENT then Israel has sovereignty and you can't argue against it.

 

[Shusha]

For that matter, if sovereignty is inherent then 'Palestine' already has it and what are you whining about?

 

[P F Tinmore]

OK, where?
Sovereignty is not granted. It is inherent.

Is is granted when a territory is controlled by another entity.

It's certainly not retroactive.

Indeed, it can be controlled by another entity. That is called illegal external interference.

So, the Ottoman Empire illegally controlled the territory for centuries illegally?

Not really. Back then, conquest was not illegal. Conquest was illegal in the 20th century.

Odd that you would attempt to lecture anyone on legalities. The Hamas Charter lays out the goals of conquest and mass slaughter as a part of the re-conquest of land within the State of Israel. As is typical, Islamics have a sense of “legal” that is still based on 7th century precepts.

Nice deflection.

This has nothing to do with the illegality of conquest.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Sovereignty is not granted. It is inherent.

That is a meaningless statement, if you have ever wrote one.

If sovereignty is INHERENT then Israel has sovereignty and you can't argue against it.

Sovereignty is automatically inherited by the people of the place. The Palestinians automatically became citizens of Palestine at the birth of their country.

The people from someplace else get their sovereignty there.

 

[Hollie]

Sovereignty is not granted. It is inherent.

That is a meaningless statement, if you have ever wrote one.

If sovereignty is INHERENT then Israel has sovereignty and you can't argue against it.

Sovereignty is automatically inherited by the people of the place. The Palestinians automatically became citizens of Palestine at the birth of their country.

The people from someplace else get their sovereignty there.

Ah, you're cutting and pasting the same fraudulent slogans about some "country of Pally'land" you have invented.

[------- ] here in the brackets is where you can cut and paste your silly claims about the Treaty of Lausanne creating the "county of Pally'land"

That's always good for a chuckle.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Sovereignty is not granted. It is inherent.

That is a meaningless statement, if you have ever wrote one.

If sovereignty is INHERENT then Israel has sovereignty and you can't argue against it.

Sovereignty is automatically inherited by the people of the place. The Palestinians automatically became citizens of Palestine at the birth of their country.

The people from someplace else get their sovereignty there.

Ah, you're cutting and pasting the same fraudulent slogans about some "country of Pally'land" you have invented.

[------- ] here in the brackets is where you can cut and paste your silly claims about the Treaty of Lausanne creating the "county of Pally'land"

That's always good for a chuckle.

 

[Hollie]

Sovereignty is not granted. It is inherent.

That is a meaningless statement, if you have ever wrote one.

If sovereignty is INHERENT then Israel has sovereignty and you can't argue against it.

Sovereignty is automatically inherited by the people of the place. The Palestinians automatically became citizens of Palestine at the birth of their country.

The people from someplace else get their sovereignty there.

Ah, you're cutting and pasting the same fraudulent slogans about some "country of Pally'land" you have invented.

[------- ] here in the brackets is where you can cut and paste your silly claims about the Treaty of Lausanne creating the "county of Pally'land"

That's always good for a chuckle.

Your usual cut and paste cartoons.

Totally predictable.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Sovereignty is not granted. It is inherent.

That is a meaningless statement, if you have ever wrote one.

If sovereignty is INHERENT then Israel has sovereignty and you can't argue against it.

Sovereignty is automatically inherited by the people of the place. The Palestinians automatically became citizens of Palestine at the birth of their country.

The people from someplace else get their sovereignty there.

Ah, you're cutting and pasting the same fraudulent slogans about some "country of Pally'land" you have invented.

[------- ] here in the brackets is where you can cut and paste your silly claims about the Treaty of Lausanne creating the "county of Pally'land"

That's always good for a chuckle.

Your usual cut and paste cartoons.

Totally predictable.

What else should I do with your stupid post?

 

[Hollie]

Is is granted when a territory is controlled by another entity.

It's certainly not retroactive.

Indeed, it can be controlled by another entity. That is called illegal external interference.

So, the Ottoman Empire illegally controlled the territory for centuries illegally?

Not really. Back then, conquest was not illegal. Conquest was illegal in the 20th century.

Odd that you would attempt to lecture anyone on legalities. The Hamas Charter lays out the goals of conquest and mass slaughter as a part of the re-conquest of land within the State of Israel. As is typical, Islamics have a sense of “legal” that is still based on 7th century precepts.

Nice deflection.

This has nothing to do with the illegality of conquest.

Of course it does. The various Arab-islamist wars aimed at Israel have been about conquest and annihilation. You are simply unable to be honest and admit that your whining about international law and illegalities are entirely one-sided and irrelevant when applied against Islamist gee-had.

 

[Hollie]

That is a meaningless statement, if you have ever wrote one.

If sovereignty is INHERENT then Israel has sovereignty and you can't argue against it.

Sovereignty is automatically inherited by the people of the place. The Palestinians automatically became citizens of Palestine at the birth of their country.

The people from someplace else get their sovereignty there.

Ah, you're cutting and pasting the same fraudulent slogans about some "country of Pally'land" you have invented.

[------- ] here in the brackets is where you can cut and paste your silly claims about the Treaty of Lausanne creating the "county of Pally'land"

That's always good for a chuckle.

Your usual cut and paste cartoons.

Totally predictable.

What else should I do with your stupid post?

You should do as you usually do when you're befuddled and unable to find a YouTube video to cut and paste: stutter and mumble.

 

[Shusha]

Sovereignty is not granted. It is inherent.

That is a meaningless statement, if you have ever wrote one.

If sovereignty is INHERENT then Israel has sovereignty and you can't argue against it.

Sovereignty is automatically inherited by the people of the place. The Palestinians automatically became citizens of Palestine at the birth of their country.

The people from someplace else get their sovereignty there.

You've already introduced several additional ideas to your initial claim that sovereignty is inherent. Adding qualifications.

Apparently it also requires the birth of a country. Tell me. How are countries born?

Also you claim sovereignties passes to the people of the place. How are they defined?