Moderate Republicans scold Bush...

[Bullypulpit]

...Really, now.

<blockquote>WASHINGTON, May 9 — Moderate Republicans gave President Bush a blunt warning on his Iraq policy at a private White House meeting this week, telling the president that conditions needed to improve markedly by fall or more Republicans would desert him on the war.

The White House session demonstrated the grave unease many Republicans are feeling about the war, even as they continue to stand with the president against Democratic efforts to force a withdrawal of forces through a spending measure that has been a flash point for weeks.

Participants in the Tuesday meeting between Mr. Bush, senior administration officials and 11 members of a moderate bloc of House Republicans said the lawmakers were unusually candid with the president, telling him that public support for the war was crumbling in their swing districts. - <a href=http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/10/washington/10cong.html?pagewanted=print>New York Times</a></blockquote>

Bullshit. Their little "come to Jesus" meeting with the President was just another GOP dog-and-pony show, lacking any real substance. These "moderate" Republicans are simply trying to distance themselves from Bush because their asses are on the line in the next election. If they have to appear to be throwing Bush under the bus to retain their seats in Congress, that's what they'll do. But that's all it is...appearances.

Were these "moderate" Republicans as in touch with their constituencies as they claim to be, there would have been no question about over-riding Bush's veto of the emergency supplemental spending bill. It would have been over-ridden. This little performance was just another attempt to blow smoke up the collective ass of America.

 

[Rosotar]

...Really, now.

<blockquote>WASHINGTON, May 9 &#8212; Moderate Republicans gave President Bush a blunt warning on his Iraq policy at a private White House meeting this week, telling the president that conditions needed to improve markedly by fall or more Republicans would desert him on the war.

The White House session demonstrated the grave unease many Republicans are feeling about the war, even as they continue to stand with the president against Democratic efforts to force a withdrawal of forces through a spending measure that has been a flash point for weeks.

Participants in the Tuesday meeting between Mr. Bush, senior administration officials and 11 members of a moderate bloc of House Republicans said the lawmakers were unusually candid with the president, telling him that public support for the war was crumbling in their swing districts. - <a href=http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/10/washington/10cong.html?pagewanted=print>New York Times</a></blockquote>

Bullshit. Their little "come to Jesus" meeting with the President was just another GOP dog-and-pony show, lacking any real substance. These "moderate" Republicans are simply trying to distance themselves from Bush because their asses are on the line in the next election. If they have to appear to be throwing Bush under the bus to retain their seats in Congress, that's what they'll do. But that's all it is...appearances.

Were these "moderate" Republicans as in touch with their constituencies as they claim to be, there would have been no question about over-riding Bush's veto of the emergency supplemental spending bill. It would have been over-ridden. This little performance was just another attempt to blow smoke up the collective ass of America.

I agree somewhat however I think they've backed themselves into a corner. After September voters are going to be looking for big changes in the way Congress handles Bush in regards to Iraq. After Sept. the same old platitudes and propaganda that has served these Republican, congressional lap dogs so well up to now simply aren't going to work anymore. Republicans will be forced to join Dems in forcing Bush to follow the mandate of the people or impeachment will most certainly be on the table. Conservatives are typically little more than a bunch of self serving hypocrites. That's no wonder since the whole idea of "conservatism" was a sham from the very beginning. What do you expect from individuals who base their very existence on a lie?

However most of them are not completely stupid. They have a powerful sense of self preservation. They have no intention of going down with Bush's ship. They're just waiting until the last possible moment to jump.

The sad thing is how many more American soldiers will have to die between now and the end of summer while they're waiting around to finally pop their heads out of their collective asses!

 

[Psychoblues]

Just when did any politician ever care about the lives or health of any American Soldier other than in a speech?

I agree somewhat however I think they've backed themselves into a corner. After September voters are going to be looking for big changes in the way Congress handles Bush in regards to Iraq. After Sept. the same old platitudes and propaganda that has served these Republican, congressional lap dogs so well up to now simply aren't going to work anymore. Republicans will be forced to join Dems in forcing Bush to follow the mandate of the people or impeachment will most certainly be on the table. Conservatives are typically little more than a bunch of self serving hypocrites. That's no wonder since the whole idea of "conservatism" was a sham from the very beginning. What do you expect from individuals who base their very existence on a lie?

However most of them are not completely stupid. They have a powerful sense of self preservation. They have no intention of going down with Bush's ship. They're just waiting until the last possible moment to jump.

The sad thing is how many more American soldiers will have to die between now and the end of summer while they're waiting around to finally pop their heads out of their collective asses!

The proof is in the pudding and there certainly hasn't been much pudding for the Soldiers during or after their strong, unselfish and honorable service to their country and the very selfish assholes that just couldn't come up tp par to even imagine the same sacrifice.

Dig it or not. Facts is facts.

 

[Bullypulpit]

Just when did any politician ever care about the lives or health of any American Soldier other than in a speech?

The proof is in the pudding and there certainly hasn't been much pudding for the Soldiers during or after their strong, unselfish and honorable service to their country and the very selfish assholes that just couldn't come up tp par to even imagine the same sacrifice.

Dig it or not. Facts is facts.

Agreed, but this Administration has been utterly execrable in its treatment of the troops. And Congress in the hands of the GOP was no better and only a little better in the hands of the Democrats. Our Congressional representatives have to realize that the life of just one soldier, sailor, airman or marine is worth more than the careers of all the members of Congress combined.

 

[Psychoblues]

What do we do about that, Bully?

Agreed, but this Administration has been utterly execrable in its treatment of the troops. And Congress in the hands of the GOP was no better and only a little better in the hands of the Democrats. Our Congressional representatives have to realize that the life of just one soldier, sailor, airman or marine is worth more than the careers of all the members of Congress combined.

Americans deserve much better than the dish they are being served, don'y you agree?

 

[actsnoblemartin]

Of course republicans want to distince themselves from bush, if a democratic president had an un=popular war, you dont think they would do that same thing?

Geez superlative, you think every republican is just some evil, cunning, political opportunist?. both parties, are doing crap to save social security, improve health care access or illegal immigration.

Its like we are trained, to call everyone, and people in a different party the enemy. When we should just criticize bullshit, all over the place.

...Really, now.

<blockquote>WASHINGTON, May 9 — Moderate Republicans gave President Bush a blunt warning on his Iraq policy at a private White House meeting this week, telling the president that conditions needed to improve markedly by fall or more Republicans would desert him on the war.

The White House session demonstrated the grave unease many Republicans are feeling about the war, even as they continue to stand with the president against Democratic efforts to force a withdrawal of forces through a spending measure that has been a flash point for weeks.

Participants in the Tuesday meeting between Mr. Bush, senior administration officials and 11 members of a moderate bloc of House Republicans said the lawmakers were unusually candid with the president, telling him that public support for the war was crumbling in their swing districts. - <a href=http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/10/washington/10cong.html?pagewanted=print>New York Times</a></blockquote>

Bullshit. Their little "come to Jesus" meeting with the President was just another GOP dog-and-pony show, lacking any real substance. These "moderate" Republicans are simply trying to distance themselves from Bush because their asses are on the line in the next election. If they have to appear to be throwing Bush under the bus to retain their seats in Congress, that's what they'll do. But that's all it is...appearances.

Were these "moderate" Republicans as in touch with their constituencies as they claim to be, there would have been no question about over-riding Bush's veto of the emergency supplemental spending bill. It would have been over-ridden. This little performance was just another attempt to blow smoke up the collective ass of America.

 

[Gunny]

...Really, now.

<blockquote>WASHINGTON, May 9 — Moderate Republicans gave President Bush a blunt warning on his Iraq policy at a private White House meeting this week, telling the president that conditions needed to improve markedly by fall or more Republicans would desert him on the war.

The White House session demonstrated the grave unease many Republicans are feeling about the war, even as they continue to stand with the president against Democratic efforts to force a withdrawal of forces through a spending measure that has been a flash point for weeks.

Participants in the Tuesday meeting between Mr. Bush, senior administration officials and 11 members of a moderate bloc of House Republicans said the lawmakers were unusually candid with the president, telling him that public support for the war was crumbling in their swing districts. - <a href=http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/10/washington/10cong.html?pagewanted=print>New York Times</a></blockquote>

Bullshit. Their little "come to Jesus" meeting with the President was just another GOP dog-and-pony show, lacking any real substance. These "moderate" Republicans are simply trying to distance themselves from Bush because their asses are on the line in the next election. If they have to appear to be throwing Bush under the bus to retain their seats in Congress, that's what they'll do. But that's all it is...appearances.

Were these "moderate" Republicans as in touch with their constituencies as they claim to be, there would have been no question about over-riding Bush's veto of the emergency supplemental spending bill. It would have been over-ridden. This little performance was just another attempt to blow smoke up the collective ass of America.

So conservatives can't even agree with liberals it's high time some progress was shown and that Bush needs to hold himself to his "fall" deadline without being full of it, huh?

The fact is, that moderate conservatives are warning Bush he better show some results by "fall" is NOT the same issue as arbitrary withdrawal timelines, and the comparison of one to the other attempting to make conservatives look dishonest is bullshit.

I completely agree that it's time for some results from both the surge AND the Iraqi government.

And I still completely disgaree with adding arbitrary withdrawal timelines to a budget.

Two issues ... two answers.

 

[Annie]

Agreed, but this Administration has been utterly execrable in its treatment of the troops. And Congress in the hands of the GOP was no better and only a little better in the hands of the Democrats. Our Congressional representatives have to realize that the life of just one soldier, sailor, airman or marine is worth more than the careers of all the members of Congress combined.

So, are you trying to say that on 9/11 there should have been no attempt to send the Air Force out to stop the planes from hitting the Capital, White House, or any US government building? If some group wishes to take out members of Congress, there should be no attempts made to stop them?

I don't think I'm understanding what you are trying to say here Bully.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

I agree somewhat however I think they've backed themselves into a corner. After September voters are going to be looking for big changes in the way Congress handles Bush in regards to Iraq. After Sept. the same old platitudes and propaganda that has served these Republican, congressional lap dogs so well up to now simply aren't going to work anymore. Republicans will be forced to join Dems in forcing Bush to follow the mandate of the people or impeachment will most certainly be on the table. Conservatives are typically little more than a bunch of self serving hypocrites. That's no wonder since the whole idea of "conservatism" was a sham from the very beginning. What do you expect from individuals who base their very existence on a lie?

However most of them are not completely stupid. They have a powerful sense of self preservation. They have no intention of going down with Bush's ship. They're just waiting until the last possible moment to jump.

The sad thing is how many more American soldiers will have to die between now and the end of summer while they're waiting around to finally pop their heads out of their collective asses!

The whole idea of conservatism is a "sham"? What exactly is a sham about traditional values?

Sure, conservatives want better results in Iraq (and in other matters too) but cons are not ready to cut and run like yellow bellied liberals. You want a repeat of Cambodia?

 

[Gunny]

I agree somewhat however I think they've backed themselves into a corner. After September voters are going to be looking for big changes in the way Congress handles Bush in regards to Iraq. After Sept. the same old platitudes and propaganda that has served these Republican, congressional lap dogs so well up to now simply aren't going to work anymore. Republicans will be forced to join Dems in forcing Bush to follow the mandate of the people or impeachment will most certainly be on the table. Conservatives are typically little more than a bunch of self serving hypocrites. That's no wonder since the whole idea of "conservatism" was a sham from the very beginning. What do you expect from individuals who base their very existence on a lie?

However most of them are not completely stupid. They have a powerful sense of self preservation. They have no intention of going down with Bush's ship. They're just waiting until the last possible moment to jump.

The sad thing is how many more American soldiers will have to die between now and the end of summer while they're waiting around to finally pop their heads out of their collective asses!

I missed this little "gem." I disagree. Conservatism is hardly a sham. Conservatism is the polar opposite of liberalism. Just because you choose to follow the latter, that finds its base in destroying what conservatives would preserve, doesn't make it a sham, nor dishonest in any way. It's a sincere belief in preserving the morals and standards that has made this society great, instead of throwing every one of them out the window just because they are there.

The sad thing here is that you believe destroying everything this Nation was founded upon and the beliefs that have held our society together for over 200 years is some virtuous cause. What it REALLY amounts to is cutting off your own nose to spite your face.