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No......
Any death that "occurs" to the troops is on the head of George Bush because he sent them off to fight a war that can't be won and shouldn't have been started in the first place.
Why is it so easy for Cons to substitute a short memory for a clean conscience?
How do you know it cant be won? You havent even been willing to fight it. Every time we try you fight us tooth and nail.
No, the blood is on your hands. Not ours. We are the ones supporting the troops..
Been drinking the kool-aid, haven't you. That was pretty much what Dana Perrino, substitute White House spokes-liar had to say on the matter. Bush clearly stated that "Major military operations" in Iraq were over, done, finished. Four years later , we are still there, conducting major military operations.
As for you WMD claims, care to provide some verifiable documentation to back them up? Didn't think so.
Ameerica's enemies want the US to stay in Iraq. The longer the so-called "surge" the more damage to the US military. They are applauding the pathological stubborness of your president.
And just what might that Agenda be? Extricating our troops from the midst of a civil war which this administration, through its own arrogance, inserted them into seems a worthy endeavor to me.
After all, in 1999, when Chimpy was running for the Presidency, he did cite the importance of time lines for withdrawal with regards to Kosovo...
<blockquote>Victory means exit strategy, and its important for the president to explain to us what the exit strategy is. - George W. Bush, 4/9/99</blockquote>
And,
<blockquote>I think its also important for the president to lay out a timetable as to how long they will be involved and when they will be withdrawn. - George W. Bush, 6/5/99</blockquote>
He has presented no exit strategy, much less any other strategy for Iraq, nor has he stated just how long our troops will continue to die in Iraq. He has left US involvement in Iraq a completely open ended commitment, unwilling to even consider simple benchmarks for the Iraqi government to reach for continued US involvement. His ego won't allow it. How many more must die as a salve to Bush's ego? HOW MANY?
According to you Bush wants to keep the timeline a secret because he doesn't want the enemy to know.
Enemy: Boy that Bush sure suprised us when he announced a withdraw. Looks like we'll all just have to go home. Didn't see this withdraw coming. Took us by suprise I tell ya; now what do we do?.
Typical liberal
A) You live lies, and accuse everyone else of being liars... Its quite funny actually
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As far as "Major operations" for the most part, the air strikes were over, Bagdad was taken, the Iraqi army was crushed... The only thing left were the insurgents that people like you support and fuel in thier efforts to kill our children with your anti American rhetoric day in and day out.
B) As far as Wmd Verifiable documentation. I have to take the man for his word. But I believe he would tell you, the Dead infected soldiers were proof enough for him.
Funny thing about liberals A doctor from Russia on a ship loaded with WMD's is unbelievable and a liar, but a waitress tells you sucking the brains out of a 7 month old fetus is then chopping the poor childs head off is not murder. is above board and acceptable...
C) As far as me having another drink... I think I might right after this post!
But what do you think of this... I believe people on public assistance (welfare, unemployment) should be subjected to drug testing just like working men and women... Hmmm I wonder how that would affect your lazy liberal community... Think of all the money we could save not paying 95% of those lazy bastards...
Dont panic you'll still get you check this week!!!
And just what might that Agenda be? Extricating our troops from the midst of a civil war which this administration, through its own arrogance, inserted them into seems a worthy endeavor to me.
After all, in 1999, when Chimpy was running for the Presidency, he did cite the importance of time lines for withdrawal with regards to Kosovo...
<blockquote>Victory means exit strategy, and its important for the president to explain to us what the exit strategy is. - George W. Bush, 4/9/99</blockquote>
And,
<blockquote>I think its also important for the president to lay out a timetable as to how long they will be involved and when they will be withdrawn. - George W. Bush, 6/5/99</blockquote>
He has presented no exit strategy, much less any other strategy for Iraq, nor has he stated just how long our troops will continue to die in Iraq. He has left US involvement in Iraq a completely open ended commitment, unwilling to even consider simple benchmarks for the Iraqi government to reach for continued US involvement. His ego won't allow it. How many more must die as a salve to Bush's ego? HOW MANY?
...And I'll tell you where Iraq parallels Vietnam ... the most formidable military in the history of the world is being brought to their knees not by their opponents in the field, but by bullshit partisan politics HERE on US soil.
Exactly!!!!
Yep, and there now is no alternative. There are no Moynihans, Humphreys, Bakers, etc. It's all partisan, all the time.
It's not just our foreign enemies that learned the lessons of VietNam!
Damn them Ameericans!
The U.S.'s enemies are applauding the Democratic Congress even more vigorously because they know that is the entity that will enable them to win in Iraq.
.........And I'll tell you where Iraq parallels Vietnam ... the most formidable military in the history of the world is being brought to their knees not by their opponents in the field, but by bullshit partisan politics HERE on US soil.
It's not just our foreign enemies that learned the lessons of VietNam!
Yes the parallels with Vietnam - a failure -are strikingly similar to Iraq - a failure in progress. Westmoreland called for more and more troops and kept doing the same thing again and again. He failed. Petraeus has called for more troops and is doing the same thing again and again....matter of time.
.......Face it bully, no one is going to buy your theory so long as the Dem's agenda in regard to the funding bill is so transparent.
Don't tell me you think the US did. Obviously not, given that, as Gunny just pointed out, the parallels between Iraq and Vietnam are so similar. Vietnam was a failure for the US - military and politically. You simply can't fight insurgents, you don't have the know how. Your strategy and tactics in dealing with insurgents are all over the place. Carpet bombing isn't a good tactic, for example. Didn't work in Vietnam, can't be used in Iraq. You really should learn from history. Very few conventional military campaigns conducted against insurgents work. I think perhaps the Malaya campaign by the British Commonwealth forces may have been one, although there's some doubt about it being described as as proper insurgency.
I guess you didn't read the article and link I posted in another thread (interview with an NVA general). He specifically cited the carpet bombing as being most effective and attributes the NVA victory to the anti-war movement. Somebody did learn from history and they are the enemies of the US. In particular, they learned that they don't have to defeat the US militarily, they just have to get the libs to start whining and *presto* they get handed a victory by folks who want to hand over this country to every whacko that comes along.
