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No, just pointing out the hypocrisy is all. You expect them to stop "shoving it in your face" and yet you are doing the exact same thing. The bigger person will be the one who stops doing it first.
How often have you heard the term "heterophobe"? I made my point and got the reaction I was looking for. It ticked you off and you pointed the finger at a term that is RARELY ever heard. While homophobe is ALL OVER THE PLACE.
Thanks for backing me up. The bigger person spoke her mind and was blasted for it. The bigger person didn't throw back immiture name calling and outrageous claims about the gay community. She gave her opinion and the smaller people reacted with hatred and disdain.
You can damn well bet that the bigger person will ALWAYS be labeled as a homophobe. They will NEVER stop using it.
Hmmmm ... ticked me off ... sorry, I just don't see how you think that, but if it helps you sleep at night, have at your imaginary reaction. However you are still being the smaller person .... so far I have to side with gay people more with each of your posts. Are you the next Bass?
How often have you heard the term "heterophobe"? I made my point and got the reaction I was looking for. It ticked you off and you pointed the finger at a term that is RARELY ever heard. While homophobe is ALL OVER THE PLACE.
Thanks for backing me up. The bigger person spoke her mind and was blasted for it. The bigger person didn't throw back immiture name calling and outrageous claims about the gay community. She gave her opinion and the smaller people reacted with hatred and disdain.
You can damn well bet that the bigger person will ALWAYS be labeled as a homophobe. They will NEVER stop using it.
Hmmmm ... ticked me off ... sorry, I just don't see how you think that, but if it helps you sleep at night, have at your imaginary reaction. However you are still being the smaller person .... so far I have to side with gay people more with each of your posts. Are you the next Bass?
so you choose positions based on a single person's posts? you seem to accuse him of being a homophobe or somethign as you call him the next bass....so if someone is an ass that changes your beliefs to the rightness or wrongness of a social issue... political party?
Hmmmm ... ticked me off ... sorry, I just don't see how you think that, but if it helps you sleep at night, have at your imaginary reaction. However you are still being the smaller person .... so far I have to side with gay people more with each of your posts. Are you the next Bass?
By all means...please do side with the smaller people...it suits you. Let's be very clear that the attacks came from your side on this issue. Attacks on a person whose opinion differed from theirs. I used the term heterophobe to make a point and it worked. As I said, you'll hear homophobe 100 times to every single mention of the term heterophobe.
But I don't side with you, so I'm not siding with the smaller people.
Donald Trump went up in my estimation. But he is a shrewd businessman and he knew that the public was behind Carrie Prejean.
And no, the public has been split this entire time about her, stop acting like we all just support her because many people don't. I just don't give a shit what a beauty queen thinks about gay marriage because listening to her talk proves that beauty is all she has
ROFL... based upon that syntactical trainwreck, the beauty queens speech, is vastly more accurate, in terms of proper english, than the drivel you're advancing; her diction is precise; her reasoning sound and her logic is valid.
So just what in the HELL are you talking about?
She recognized that there are immutable principles at play here and that MARRIAGE is a union between a MAN and a WOMAN... what the homosexuals need is to INCORPORATE... but it serves the 'legal union' issues that they're crying about; its not MARRIAGE ... but they aren't a man and a woman, now are they?
What about the other girls in the contest who were found to have the same type of pictures? Should they be disqualified as well? These pictures wouldn't even be in question if it weren't for the all out smear campaign that the left and the media were waging on her to completely destroy her credibility and smear her name. All for using her freedom of speech to voice her opinion to a question that was directly asked of her. They did the same thing to Palin, like I said if you don't agree with them, then you're fair game to completely humiliate and destroy. What about the fairness of none of the other contestants being asked such a politically charged question? Shouldn't they all have had to answer something equally as charged?
What about the other girls in the contest who were found to have the same type of pictures? Should they be disqualified as well? These pictures wouldn't even be in question if it weren't for the all out smear campaign that the left and the media were waging on her to completely destroy her credibility and smear her name. All for using her freedom of speech to voice her opinion to a question that was directly asked of her. They did the same thing to Palin, like I said if you don't agree with them, then you're fair game to completely humiliate and destroy. What about the fairness of none of the other contestants being asked such a politically charged question? Shouldn't they all have had to answer something equally as charged?
If there are other girls that lied as well, they should be disqualified as well...WHY ELSE have these rules in the first place? Lying about it was CHEATING Newby, there is NO, ifs, ands, of buts about it imo. There are other beautiful and talented women, who told the truth or knew the truth about themselves, and never got to run in these contests because of these rules and their own integrity of telling the truth about it...
Honestly, we should NOT accept TWO WRONGS, make a/it RIGHT and I do not understand why anyone, whether on the left or the right, does not see it in this manner...cheating and lying should NOT be rewarded, for anyone....ya know??? What have we come to...when a man of his word, or a woman of her word, has no meaning?
Care
What about the other girls in the contest who were found to have the same type of pictures? Should they be disqualified as well? These pictures wouldn't even be in question if it weren't for the all out smear campaign that the left and the media were waging on her to completely destroy her credibility and smear her name. All for using her freedom of speech to voice her opinion to a question that was directly asked of her. They did the same thing to Palin, like I said if you don't agree with them, then you're fair game to completely humiliate and destroy. What about the fairness of none of the other contestants being asked such a politically charged question? Shouldn't they all have had to answer something equally as charged?
If there are other girls that lied as well, they should be disqualified as well...WHY ELSE have these rules in the first place? Lying about it was CHEATING Newby, there is NO, ifs, ands, of buts about it imo. There are other beautiful and talented women, who told the truth or knew the truth about themselves, and never got to run in these contests because of these rules and their own integrity of telling the truth about it...
Honestly, we should NOT accept TWO WRONGS, make a/it RIGHT and I do not understand why anyone, whether on the left or the right, does not see it in this manner...cheating and lying should NOT be rewarded, for anyone....ya know??? What have we come to...when a man of his word, or a woman of her word, has no meaning?
Care
You are missing the far greater point - this example is not about a beauty contest, or semi-nude photos. This example is about the so-called American liberal elites who smeared this young woman - attacked her aggressively in an incredibly demeaning fashion, for sharing the very same opinion on gay marriage as the majority of California, and the President of the United States.
THAT is the issue at hand here, and the one you should be focusing your attention on. Anything else is secondary deflection.
The liberal left, including those working within the media, were once again exposed as terribly hateful people who wish to destroy any commentary that contradicts their own beliefs, regardless of who speaks it. They have been emboldened by the current political climate, and are engaging in this destruction of others with far greater tenacity than ever.
Individuals such as Keith Olbermann are examples of a Joseph McCarthy-style media mouthpiece - and such examples have now become legion.
I admire miss california for taking on something she believes, and sticking to it, regardless of outside forces....
I do NOT admire her being, imho, a cheater and a liar and I do not believe anyone should....shoot, I take myself to task on my own dishonesties that arise, why wouldn't I feel the same about hers?
If Miss California, had the opinion that she was for Gay marriage, there is NO DOUBT that those that oppose this point of view, would be screaming from the rooftops in protest of her trying to make a political circus out of her Crown....and it too would have become a media frenzy....adversity sells.
Those opposing her on the right would have done ALL that is being done to her now, as well....to pretend otherwise, is where hypocrisy gets its name imho...
and maybe she would not have been smeared as much, but she certainly would have been smeared and her lying about her topless/ undie photos would have been brought out as well...
Either way, SHE LIED ABOUT THEM, and this does not sit well with me for someone that is suppose to represent a cause of moral value...
I am just calling a spade, a spade.
Care
I admire miss california for taking on something she believes, and sticking to it, regardless of outside forces....
I do NOT admire her being, imho, a cheater and a liar and I do not believe anyone should....shoot, I take myself to task on my own dishonesties that arise, why wouldn't I feel the same about hers?
If Miss California, had the opinion that she was for Gay marriage, there is NO DOUBT that those that oppose this point of view, would be screaming from the rooftops in protest of her trying to make a political circus out of her Crown....and it too would have become a media frenzy....adversity sells.
Those opposing her on the right would have done ALL that is being done to her now, as well....to pretend otherwise, is where hypocrisy gets its name imho...
and maybe she would not have been smeared as much, but she certainly would have been smeared and her lying about her topless/ undie photos would have been brought out as well...
Either way, SHE LIED ABOUT THEM, and this does not sit well with me for someone that is suppose to represent a cause of moral value...
I am just calling a spade, a spade.
Care
You are absolutely wrong on that count. While such an opinion would place her in the minority of Americans according to poll after poll on this issue, she would be hoisted up as a brave example of tolerance and a wonderful role model for young women in America - by the media and entertainment industry. (which is one and the same really)
Whatever disgruntled feelings from certain religious right folks would not have the platform to share those feelings as those who support gay marriage do.
Your assertions otherwise are simply dishonest.
You must also continue to note that these attacks from the liberals against this young woman are from people who also profess tolerance of differences. Miss Prejean did not express her views on gay marriage with intolerance - it simply differed from the minority of other Americans. She appeared to go out of her way in fact to be supportive of those who choose a different version of marriage - much the same way as President Obama's own answer on the subject.
And I will say it again, the issue at hand here is not about a beauty pageant, or semi nude photos. It is the aggressive intolerance by the left, namely some in the media.
You either support such intolerance, or you fight against it.
That is calling a spade a spade...
Couldn't agree more tho, another one right on target. 
I admire miss california for taking on something she believes, and sticking to it, regardless of outside forces....
I do NOT admire her being, imho, a cheater and a liar and I do not believe anyone should....shoot, I take myself to task on my own dishonesties that arise, why wouldn't I feel the same about hers?
If Miss California, had the opinion that she was for Gay marriage, there is NO DOUBT that those that oppose this point of view, would be screaming from the rooftops in protest of her trying to make a political circus out of her Crown....and it too would have become a media frenzy....adversity sells.
Those opposing her on the right would have done ALL that is being done to her now, as well....to pretend otherwise, is where hypocrisy gets its name imho...
and maybe she would not have been smeared as much, but she certainly would have been smeared and her lying about her topless/ undie photos would have been brought out as well...
Either way, SHE LIED ABOUT THEM, and this does not sit well with me for someone that is suppose to represent a cause of moral value...
I am just calling a spade, a spade.
Care
You are absolutely wrong on that count. While such an opinion would place her in the minority of Americans according to poll after poll on this issue, she would be hoisted up as a brave example of tolerance and a wonderful role model for young women in America - by the media and entertainment industry. (which is one and the same really)
Whatever disgruntled feelings from certain religious right folks would not have the platform to share those feelings as those who support gay marriage do.
Your assertions otherwise are simply dishonest.
You must also continue to note that these attacks from the liberals against this young woman are from people who also profess tolerance of differences. Miss Prejean did not express her views on gay marriage with intolerance - it simply differed from the minority of other Americans. She appeared to go out of her way in fact to be supportive of those who choose a different version of marriage - much the same way as President Obama's own answer on the subject.
And I will say it again, the issue at hand here is not about a beauty pageant, or semi nude photos. It is the aggressive intolerance by the left, namely some in the media.
You either support such intolerance, or you fight against it.
That is calling a spade a spade...
You keep beating me to it.
No one would have gone after her with the venom and animosity that the gay and leftist crowd have done, they have no boundaries whatsoever, nor do they have respect for opposing views or opinions, they have no tolerance. They're hypocrits of the first order.
Why is this so damned important?
Why is this so damned important?
It has become one of the more telling and obvious examples of intolerance by American liberals - namely those within the media.
