Millions Die Via Liberal Science

[Valerie]

Who knew the US EPA could control what the rest of the world could do to eradicate malaria, but nice to know Republicans support helping Africans with disease control.

DDT Ban Takes Effect

[EPA press release - December 31, 1972]

The general use of the pesticide DDT will no longer be legal in the United States after today, ending nearly three decades of application during which time the once-popular chemical was used to control insect pests on crop and forest lands, around homes and gardens, and for industrial and commercial purposes.

An end to the continued domestic usage of the pesticide was decreed on June 14, 1972, when William D. Ruckelshaus, Administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency, issued an order finally cancelling nearly all remaining Federal registrations of DDT products. Public health, quarantine, and a few minor crop uses were excepted, as well as export of the material.

The effective date of the EPA June cancellation action was delayed until the end of this year to permit an orderly transition to substitute pesticides, including the joint development with the U.S. Department of Agriculture of a special program to instruct farmers on safe use of substitutes.

The cancellation decision culminated three years of intensive governmental inquiries into the uses of DDT. As a result of this examination, Ruckelshaus said he was convinced that the continued massive use of DDT posed unacceptable risks to the environment and potential harm to human health.

Major legal challenges to the EPA cancellation of DDT are now pending before the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia and the Federal District Court for the Northern District of Mississippi. The courts have not ruled as yet in either of these suits brought by pesticide manufacturers.

DDT was developed as the first of the modern insecticides early in World War II. It was initially used with great effect to combat malaria, typhus, and the other insect-borne human diseases among both military and civilian populations.

A persistent, broad-spectrum compound often termed the "miracle" pesticide, DDT came into wide agricultural and commercial usage in this country in the late 1940s. During the past 30 years, approximately 675,000 tons have been applied domestically. The peak year for use in the United States was 1959 when nearly 80 million pounds were applied. From that high point, usage declined steadily to about 13 million pounds in 1971, most of it applied to cotton.

The decline was attributed to a number of factors including increased insect resistance, development of more effective alternative pesticides, growing public and user concern over adverse environmental side effects--and governmental restriction on DDT use since 1969.

DDT Ban Takes Effect | EPA History | US EPA

 

[Toro]

thank you rachel, for saving me.

 

[Valerie]

I guess we should expect full bi-partisan support for USAID funding to support phase III malaria vaccination efforts...................?

Nearly 1 million deaths.

you'd have to be a cold muther fukker to turn away from that.

But I bet we could find money in reducing regulations.

To save lives, I'm certain we can get bi-partisan on that.

RBM Partnership marks a decade of progress on World Malaria Day 2011 and sets its sights on near zero deaths by 2015

Progress in the fight against the disease has been attributed to the leadership of malaria endemic countries, bold partnerships with the private sector, innovative academic thinking, and increased resources made available by The Global Fund to fight HIV/AIDS, TB and malaria, the World Bank, UNITAID and the US President's Malaria Initiative (PMI) as well as bi-laterals such as France and the UK.

High level political commitment has also spurred momentum with the appointment of UNSG Special Envoy for malaria and the creation of the African Leaders Malaria Alliance (ALMA).

In the last five years coverage with all malaria interventions has increased and 11 countries in Africa have slashed their malaria cases and deaths by more than 50%. Malaria has moved from the first cause of death among children under five in 2000 in sub-Saharan Africa to third cause of death in 2010. Implementation of new treatment guidelines released this week by the World Health Organization will also contribute to saving many more lives. WHO now recommends artesunate as first line treatment in the management of severe falciparum malaria in African children.

According to the World Health Organization's 2010 World Malaria Report nearly 289 million insecticide-treated nets were distributed in sub-Saharan Africa, between 2008 and 2010, enough to cover almost 76% of populations at risk - up from just 5% in 2000.

More modest advances were recorded across the other interventions with indoor residual spraying programmes protecting 73 million people in 2009 in sub-Saharan Africa - up from 13 million in 2005.

More than 33 million Rapid Diagnostic Tests were distributed to malaria endemic countries in 2009, up from 200,000 in 2005 allowing clearer detection of malaria cases and therefore appropriate treatment; and more than 229 million artemisinin-based combination treatments (ACTs) were procured worldwide in 2010, up from only 2.1 million ACTs in 2003.

Leading economists describe malaria control as a premier investment case that offers guaranteed long-term yields in terms of development. It contributes decisively to the achievement of six of the eight MDGS - and has the biggest impact on child survival. If universal coverage with nets is achieved and sustained 3 million lives could be saved over the next 4 years.

RBM Partnership marks a decade of progress on World Malaria Day 2011 and sets its sights on near zero deaths by 2015

 

[PoliticalChic]

Malaria Vaccine
Vaccine Progress

A Phase III trial of the world’s most clinically advanced malaria vaccine candidate was launched in Kisumu, Kenya, in July 2009, under the auspices of the Kenya Medical Research Institute (KEMRI)/CDC Research and Public Health Collaboration.

KEMRI/CDC and other research centers that were selected to oversee the trials in 11 sites in 7 African countries were chosen for their record of world-class clinical research, strong community relations, and commitment to meeting the highest international ethical and regulatory standards in conducting research.

If proven effective, the vaccine will complement existing interventions, such as insecticide-treated bed nets, indoor residual spraying, and effective drug therapies, to help prevent death due to malaria. Malaria kills approximately 900,000 people a year worldwide, most of them children living in sub-Saharan Africa.

The Vaccine

The vaccine candidate—GlaxoSmithKline Biologicals' (GSKBio) RTS,S—is the first of the current generation of malaria vaccines to warrant Phase III testing on this scale. The vaccine has a promising safety profile, was more than 50% effective in reducing episodes of clinical malaria in children 5 to 17 months old in earlier testing, and can be administered together with the package of vaccinations routinely given to African children.

The vaccine has been in development since the mid-1980s and has advanced as far as clinical trials thanks to a unique public-private partnership of GSKBio, the PATH Malaria Vaccine Initiative, and African and other research organizations, with funding support from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.

Phase III Trials and Beyond
Nurse Dinah Mauti Maragwa gives malaria candidate vaccine to an infant at the Siaya KEMRI/CDC Malaria Vaccine Trial Site in Kenya. Courtesy: Alice Onsase and Kevin Shikanga, KEMRI/CDC

Nurse Dinah Mauti Maragwa gives malaria candidate vaccine to an infant at the Siaya KEMRI/CDC Malaria Vaccine Trial Site in Kenya. Courtesy: Alice Onsase and Kevin Shikanga, KEMRI/CDC

This Phase III trial will demonstrate how the vaccine performs in two groups of children—one aged 6 to 12 weeks and a second aged 5 to 17 months—in different transmission settings across a wide geographic region in Africa.

In Phase II testing, the vaccine reduced cases of malaria in young children 5 to 17 months by 53%. If Phase III results are as good, the vaccine could be fully available in the next 5 - 10 years.

Vaccine partners are already working with malaria-affected countries and international institutions to ensure that a successful malaria vaccine will be available and affordable for those who can most benefit.

CDC - Malaria - Features - Malaria Vaccine

DDT, DDE, DDD

CAS ID #: 50-29-3, 72-55-9, 72-54-8, 72-55-9,72-54-8

Affected Organ Systems: Developmental (effects during periods when organs are developing) , Endocrine (Glands and Hormones), Hepatic (Liver), Neurological (Nervous System), Reproductive (Producing Children)

Cancer Effects: Reasonably Anticipated to be Human Carcinogens

Chemical Classification: Pesticides (chemicals used for killing pests, such as rodents, insects, or plants)

Summary: DDT (dichlorodiphenyltrichloroethane) is a pesticide once widely used to control insects in agriculture and insects that carry diseases such as malaria. DDT is a white, crystalline solid with no odor or taste. Its use in the U.S. was banned in 1972 because of damage to wildlife, but is still used in some countries. DDE (dichlorodiphenyldichloroethylene) and DDD (dichlorodiphenyldichloroethane) are chemicals similar to DDT that contaminate commercial DDT preparations. DDE has no commercial use. DDD was also used to kill pests, but its use has also been banned. One form of DDD has been used medically to treat cancer of the adrenal gland.

ATSDR - ToxFAQs™: DDT, DDE, DDD

How can DDT, DDE, and DDD affect my health?

DDT affects the nervous system. People who accidentally swallowed large amounts of DDT became excitable and had tremors and seizures. These effects went away after the exposure stopped. No effects were seen in people who took small daily doses of DDT by capsule for 18 months.

A study in humans showed that women who had high amounts of a form of DDE in their breast milk were unable to breast feed their babies for as long as women who had little DDE in the breast milk. Another study in humans showed that women who had high amounts of DDE in breast milk had an increased chance of having premature babies.

In animals, short-term exposure to large amounts of DDT in food affected the nervous system, while long-term exposure to smaller amounts affected the liver. Also in animals, short-term oral exposure to small amounts of DDT or its breakdown products may also have harmful effects on reproduction.
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How likely are DDT, DDE, and DDD to cause cancer?

Studies in DDT-exposed workers did not show increases in cancer. Studies in animals given DDT with the food have shown that DDT can cause liver cancer.

The Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS) determined that DDT may reasonable be anticipated to be a human carcinogen. The International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) determined that DDT may possibly cause cancer in humans. The EPA determined that DDT, DDE, and DDD are probable human carcinogens.
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How can DDT, DDE, and DDD affect children?

There are no studies on the health effects of children exposed to DDT, DDE, or DDD. We can assume that children exposed to large amounts of DDT will have health effects similar to the effects seen in adults. However, we do not know whether children differ from adults in their susceptibility to these substances.

There is no evidence that DDT, DDE, or DDD cause birth defects in people. A study showed that teenage boys whose mothers had higher DDE amounts in the blood when they were pregnant were taller than those whose mothers had lower DDE levels. However, a different study found the opposite in preteen girls. The reason for the discrepancy between these studies is unknown.

Studies in rats have shown that DDT and DDE can mimic the action of natural hormones and in this way affect the development of the reproductive and nervous systems. Puberty was delayed in male rats given high amounts of DDE as juveniles. This could possibly happen in humans. A study in mice showed that exposure to DDT during the first weeks of life may cause neurobehavioral problems later in life.

Great job!


but...
"With respect to other health effects, such as early pregnancy loss, fertility loss, leukemia, and various cancers, van den Berg (2009) admitted that in "many cases the results have not been consistent between studies," but he went on to state that "these accumulating reports bear much concern, particularly in relation to chronic effects." This is a stunning embrace of belief over science."
Africa Fighting Malaria Article| DDT and Malaria Prevention

 

[PoliticalChic]

4. “…concerns about the impact of DDT (dichloro-diphenyl-trichloro-ethane) and its derivates on human health, in spite of the fact that DDT has been used widely for seven decades and no properly replicated and confirmed study has found any specific human health harm. Given the enormous and proven public health benefits arising from the use of DDT in disease control,… high levels of human exposure to DDT among those living in sprayed houses but presented no evidence of actual human harm arising from that exposure….Where DDT has been used in malaria control over many decades, populations have grown and health outcomes have improved.” Environmental Health Perspectives: DDT and Malaria Prevention

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Africa Fighting Malaria Article| DDT and Malaria Prevention

 

[Valerie]

It's not 1972 any more... They have discovered more effective ways to eradicate the disease than just blanketing the place with DDT.

 

[Truthmatters]

Africa Fighting Malaria - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Overview and HistoryFormed in 2000, AFM's staff members have current or former links with a range of right-wing and free market think tanks including the Competitive Enterprise Institute, Institute of Economic Affairs and Tech Central Station, organisations that are all critical of environment movements, as is AFM itself.

AFM promotes the pesticide DDT as one of the most effective means of fighting malaria. It asserts that global health organizations must be free to employ all available tools to fight malaria and that the limited use of DDT for spraying homes and hospitals is a powerful and necessary tool in this fight. Based on a document authored by the AFM's founder Roger Bate, critics argue that the group's motivation for promoting DDT has more to do with a careful crafted strategy to divide and discredit the environmental movement than it does with genuine concern for the health of Africans.[2][3][4][5]

 

[Two Thumbs]

I guess we should expect full bi-partisan support for USAID funding to support phase III malaria vaccination efforts...................?

Nearly 1 million deaths.

you'd have to be a cold muther fukker to turn away from that.

But I bet we could find money in reducing regulations.

To save lives, I'm certain we can get bi-partisan on that.

RBM Partnership marks a decade of progress on World Malaria Day 2011 and sets its sights on near zero deaths by 2015

Progress in the fight against the disease has been attributed to the leadership of malaria endemic countries, bold partnerships with the private sector, innovative academic thinking, and increased resources made available by The Global Fund to fight HIV/AIDS, TB and malaria, the World Bank, UNITAID and the US President's Malaria Initiative (PMI) as well as bi-laterals such as France and the UK.

High level political commitment has also spurred momentum with the appointment of UNSG Special Envoy for malaria and the creation of the African Leaders Malaria Alliance (ALMA).

In the last five years coverage with all malaria interventions has increased and 11 countries in Africa have slashed their malaria cases and deaths by more than 50%. Malaria has moved from the first cause of death among children under five in 2000 in sub-Saharan Africa to third cause of death in 2010. Implementation of new treatment guidelines released this week by the World Health Organization will also contribute to saving many more lives. WHO now recommends artesunate as first line treatment in the management of severe falciparum malaria in African children.

According to the World Health Organization's 2010 World Malaria Report nearly 289 million insecticide-treated nets were distributed in sub-Saharan Africa, between 2008 and 2010, enough to cover almost 76% of populations at risk - up from just 5% in 2000.

More modest advances were recorded across the other interventions with indoor residual spraying programmes protecting 73 million people in 2009 in sub-Saharan Africa - up from 13 million in 2005.

More than 33 million Rapid Diagnostic Tests were distributed to malaria endemic countries in 2009, up from 200,000 in 2005 allowing clearer detection of malaria cases and therefore appropriate treatment; and more than 229 million artemisinin-based combination treatments (ACTs) were procured worldwide in 2010, up from only 2.1 million ACTs in 2003.

Leading economists describe malaria control as a premier investment case that offers guaranteed long-term yields in terms of development. It contributes decisively to the achievement of six of the eight MDGS - and has the biggest impact on child survival. If universal coverage with nets is achieved and sustained 3 million lives could be saved over the next 4 years.

RBM Partnership marks a decade of progress on World Malaria Day 2011 and sets its sights on near zero deaths by 2015

So nets with bug spray on them are doing wonders!!

I kinda hafta laugh at this.

Was it the Army or Marines that started hosing down thier tents with bug spray back in WW2?

And this idea is just now getting to Africa? Well, better late than never.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Malaria Vaccine
Vaccine Progress

A Phase III trial of the world’s most clinically advanced malaria vaccine candidate was launched in Kisumu, Kenya, in July 2009, under the auspices of the Kenya Medical Research Institute (KEMRI)/CDC Research and Public Health Collaboration.

KEMRI/CDC and other research centers that were selected to oversee the trials in 11 sites in 7 African countries were chosen for their record of world-class clinical research, strong community relations, and commitment to meeting the highest international ethical and regulatory standards in conducting research.

If proven effective, the vaccine will complement existing interventions, such as insecticide-treated bed nets, indoor residual spraying, and effective drug therapies, to help prevent death due to malaria. Malaria kills approximately 900,000 people a year worldwide, most of them children living in sub-Saharan Africa.

The Vaccine

The vaccine candidate—GlaxoSmithKline Biologicals' (GSKBio) RTS,S—is the first of the current generation of malaria vaccines to warrant Phase III testing on this scale. The vaccine has a promising safety profile, was more than 50% effective in reducing episodes of clinical malaria in children 5 to 17 months old in earlier testing, and can be administered together with the package of vaccinations routinely given to African children.

The vaccine has been in development since the mid-1980s and has advanced as far as clinical trials thanks to a unique public-private partnership of GSKBio, the PATH Malaria Vaccine Initiative, and African and other research organizations, with funding support from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.

Phase III Trials and Beyond
Nurse Dinah Mauti Maragwa gives malaria candidate vaccine to an infant at the Siaya KEMRI/CDC Malaria Vaccine Trial Site in Kenya. Courtesy: Alice Onsase and Kevin Shikanga, KEMRI/CDC

Nurse Dinah Mauti Maragwa gives malaria candidate vaccine to an infant at the Siaya KEMRI/CDC Malaria Vaccine Trial Site in Kenya. Courtesy: Alice Onsase and Kevin Shikanga, KEMRI/CDC

This Phase III trial will demonstrate how the vaccine performs in two groups of children—one aged 6 to 12 weeks and a second aged 5 to 17 months—in different transmission settings across a wide geographic region in Africa.

In Phase II testing, the vaccine reduced cases of malaria in young children 5 to 17 months by 53%. If Phase III results are as good, the vaccine could be fully available in the next 5 - 10 years.

Vaccine partners are already working with malaria-affected countries and international institutions to ensure that a successful malaria vaccine will be available and affordable for those who can most benefit.

CDC - Malaria - Features - Malaria Vaccine

DDT, DDE, DDD

CAS ID #: 50-29-3, 72-55-9, 72-54-8, 72-55-9,72-54-8

Affected Organ Systems: Developmental (effects during periods when organs are developing) , Endocrine (Glands and Hormones), Hepatic (Liver), Neurological (Nervous System), Reproductive (Producing Children)

Cancer Effects: Reasonably Anticipated to be Human Carcinogens

Chemical Classification: Pesticides (chemicals used for killing pests, such as rodents, insects, or plants)

Summary: DDT (dichlorodiphenyltrichloroethane) is a pesticide once widely used to control insects in agriculture and insects that carry diseases such as malaria. DDT is a white, crystalline solid with no odor or taste. Its use in the U.S. was banned in 1972 because of damage to wildlife, but is still used in some countries. DDE (dichlorodiphenyldichloroethylene) and DDD (dichlorodiphenyldichloroethane) are chemicals similar to DDT that contaminate commercial DDT preparations. DDE has no commercial use. DDD was also used to kill pests, but its use has also been banned. One form of DDD has been used medically to treat cancer of the adrenal gland.

ATSDR - ToxFAQs™: DDT, DDE, DDD

How can DDT, DDE, and DDD affect my health?

DDT affects the nervous system. People who accidentally swallowed large amounts of DDT became excitable and had tremors and seizures. These effects went away after the exposure stopped. No effects were seen in people who took small daily doses of DDT by capsule for 18 months.

A study in humans showed that women who had high amounts of a form of DDE in their breast milk were unable to breast feed their babies for as long as women who had little DDE in the breast milk. Another study in humans showed that women who had high amounts of DDE in breast milk had an increased chance of having premature babies.

In animals, short-term exposure to large amounts of DDT in food affected the nervous system, while long-term exposure to smaller amounts affected the liver. Also in animals, short-term oral exposure to small amounts of DDT or its breakdown products may also have harmful effects on reproduction.
top
How likely are DDT, DDE, and DDD to cause cancer?

Studies in DDT-exposed workers did not show increases in cancer. Studies in animals given DDT with the food have shown that DDT can cause liver cancer.

The Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS) determined that DDT may reasonable be anticipated to be a human carcinogen. The International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) determined that DDT may possibly cause cancer in humans. The EPA determined that DDT, DDE, and DDD are probable human carcinogens.
top
How can DDT, DDE, and DDD affect children?

There are no studies on the health effects of children exposed to DDT, DDE, or DDD. We can assume that children exposed to large amounts of DDT will have health effects similar to the effects seen in adults. However, we do not know whether children differ from adults in their susceptibility to these substances.

There is no evidence that DDT, DDE, or DDD cause birth defects in people. A study showed that teenage boys whose mothers had higher DDE amounts in the blood when they were pregnant were taller than those whose mothers had lower DDE levels. However, a different study found the opposite in preteen girls. The reason for the discrepancy between these studies is unknown.

Studies in rats have shown that DDT and DDE can mimic the action of natural hormones and in this way affect the development of the reproductive and nervous systems. Puberty was delayed in male rats given high amounts of DDE as juveniles. This could possibly happen in humans. A study in mice showed that exposure to DDT during the first weeks of life may cause neurobehavioral problems later in life.

I am so pleased with the efforts that you, Valerie, put in, that I must say, it should be a model for posting/rebutting on the net!

Just an all around great job, makes your point, and counters much of what is in the OP.

Rep on the way!

Still, the OP makes two points that cannot be ignored.
1. Millions of lives have been lost due to a misguided, albeit well intentioned one.

2. A more gradual and scientifically tested approach- i.e., a more conservative approach, would have been the correct one.

Rather than a point by point answer, I suggest that #4 in the OP, and a post above which actually comments in a manner similar to the OP, that is the banning of DDT was the 'stunning embrace of belief over science (post #64)' is an echo of my 'liberals choose feeling over knowing.'

 

[jillian]

You seem to be one of those people who thinks this is a either/or question. You're focusing on millions lost, when billions have been saved by science.

that would require that they actually *think*

next maybe she'll do a thread saying there shouldn't be any immunization.

then we can all just pray to keep children healthy.



the sad part, no make that pathetic part, is that there are issues to be discussed. but morons who post hack jobs like the o/p actively prevent those discussions b/c who in their right mind is going to take such lunacy seriously.... well, except for other hacks, of course.

 

[Truthmatters]

Why is it you guys seem to always provide nothing but think tank bullshit to defend your positions?

 

[Two Thumbs]

It's not 1972 any more... They have discovered more effective ways to eradicate the disease than just blanketing the place with DDT.

1972 - 2010

38 years

about 38 million people dead over some non-sense

While I'm glad the nets work and the vacc is on the way, that doesn't mean we can't help more faster by spraying ddt.

 

[Truthmatters]

all according to right wing shill oraganizations.


You people are so manipulatable

 

[PoliticalChic]

You seem to be one of those people who thinks this is a either/or question. You're focusing on millions lost, when billions have been saved by science.

that would require that they actually *think*

next maybe she'll do a thread saying there shouldn't be any immunization.

then we can all just pray to keep children healthy.



the sad part, no make that pathetic part, is that there are issues to be discussed. but morons who post hack jobs like the o/p actively prevent those discussions b/c who in their right mind is going to take such lunacy seriously.... well, except for other hacks, of course.

What a screaming attempt to be relevant!

Easier, I guess, than reading the thread.

 

[Truthmatters]

Your links are from right wing shill organizations.


Do you ever present info that is non partisan?

 

[jillian]

You seem to be one of those people who thinks this is a either/or question. You're focusing on millions lost, when billions have been saved by science.

that would require that they actually *think*

next maybe she'll do a thread saying there shouldn't be any immunization.

then we can all just pray to keep children healthy.



the sad part, no make that pathetic part, is that there are issues to be discussed. but morons who post hack jobs like the o/p actively prevent those discussions b/c who in their right mind is going to take such lunacy seriously.... well, except for other hacks, of course.

What a screaming attempt to be relevant!

Easier, I guess, than reading the thread.

i tend not to read hack threads. i was responding to the idiot o/p.



which pretends to be relevant

 

[PoliticalChic]

Your links are from right wing shill organizations.


Do you ever present info that is non partisan?

See how you like this one:

"...van den Berg (2009) concluded that “environmental management and other nonchemical methods within [integrated vector management] strategies . . . will increase the sustainability of control efforts and assist in achieving malaria elimination objectives.” There is little evidence to support such a statement; in fact, the supposed solutions proffered and their modes of delivery have contributed to the weakening of malaria control programs and the global increase in malaria. After almost 70 years of use, DDT—when used in IRS programs—remains one of the safest and most effective methods of saving lives from malaria. van den Berg’s assessment makes no constructive contribution to advancing the goal of controlling a very preventable disease."
DDT and Malaria Prevention


Ms. Truthie, what is explains is, even a 2009 study which propounds your position and that of the liberals in this thread, is totally false.

What works?

DDT

And, let me remind all, who was and is behind the ban on DDT?
Environmentalists, liberals.

As usual, the Left both knows what is best, and is wrong with metromonic regularity.

 

[PoliticalChic]

that would require that they actually *think*

next maybe she'll do a thread saying there shouldn't be any immunization.

then we can all just pray to keep children healthy.



the sad part, no make that pathetic part, is that there are issues to be discussed. but morons who post hack jobs like the o/p actively prevent those discussions b/c who in their right mind is going to take such lunacy seriously.... well, except for other hacks, of course.

What a screaming attempt to be relevant!

Easier, I guess, than reading the thread.

i tend not to read hack threads. i was responding to the idiot o/p.



which pretends to be relevant

Well, at least you are consistent.

What is that old saw about not being able to teach new tricks....?

The usual personal attack, chock-a-block with words like 'moron' and 'hack' rather than any real thinking.

Someone reading your posts might think that you find thought a burden.


But, I have no doubt that one day you'll have a real opinion....or at least begin to form an exploratory committee.

 

[Flopper]

There are good alternatives to using DDT to control Malaria.

Safer alternatives to malaria-controlling DDT focus of UN-backed meeting

 

[del]

It's not 1972 any more... They have discovered more effective ways to eradicate the disease than just blanketing the place with DDT.

1972 - 2010

38 years

about 38 million people dead over some non-sense

While I'm glad the nets work and the vacc is on the way, that doesn't mean we can't help more faster by spraying ddt.

explain to me, again, how changes in u.s. law affected malaria in asia or africa?

i'll wait.