Militray service and politics

[Katzndogz]

John Kerry is going to get benefits from the Wounded Warrior Program for his paper cut.

 

[Sallow]

Fucking asshole.

You are clueless.

Clueless about what?

Romney went to France.

And he supported this country's invasion of Vietnam..and the draft.

Mitt Romney, 19, demonstrated in favour of Vietnam War draft | Mail Online
Sign of the Times – A Photo Shows Romney Backing Vietnam Draft - ABC News

does military service, or the lack thereof, disqualify someone from public office?

Not at all.

But I think people should know what they are voting for..

Romney was in favor of sending other kids to the fight..while he went to France.

His religion didn't seem to get in the way of that point of view.

 

[Sallow]

John Kerry is going to get benefits from the Wounded Warrior Program for his paper cut.

^ Case in point.

Kerry still carries sharpnel in his body to this day..from the Vietnam war.

 

[Flaylo]

If you use your military service as some sort of plus to score political points you better realize that if your service wasn't totally up to snuff and you didn't live by the values of the military while your served its going to be used against you, espcially if you're a big mouth who pounds your chest about your service, like Allen West.

 

[Conservative]

John Kerry is a war hero.

The right trashed his service for cheap political gain.

some war hero...
Did Kerry Discard Vietnam Medals? - ABC News

Contradicting his statements as a candidate for president, Sen. John Kerry claimed in a 1971 television interview that he threw away as many as nine of his combat medals to protest the war in Vietnam.

"I gave back, I can't remember, six, seven, eight, nine medals," Kerry said in an interview on a Washington, D.C., news program on WRC-TV called Viewpoints on Nov. 6, 1971, according to a tape obtained by ABCNEWS.

"We threw away the symbols of what our country gave us for what we had gone through," he said.

Many veterans were seen throwing their medals and ribbons over the fence in front of the U.S. Capitol. The Boston Globe and other newspapers reported that Kerry was among these veterans.

He flip-flopped so often on this story, it's ridiculous. Some fucking war hero.

 

[Jarhead]

Clueless about what?

Romney went to France.

And he supported this country's invasion of Vietnam..and the draft.

Mitt Romney, 19, demonstrated in favour of Vietnam War draft | Mail Online
Sign of the Times – A Photo Shows Romney Backing Vietnam Draft - ABC News

does military service, or the lack thereof, disqualify someone from public office?

Not at all.

But I think people should know what they are voting for..

Romney was in favor of sending other kids to the fight..while he went to France.

His religion didn't seem to get in the way of that point of view.

and Obama referred to those on the front as village raiders....that didnt seem to get in his way when he sent more of them to the front.

Assholes...changing the fucking topic of a thread that has merit.

 

[Truthmatters]

See how much they respect heroic military service?

 

[g5000]

Military service can provide some insight into the character of a person.

Rescuing a baby from a house fire can provide some insight into the character of a person.

However, it does NOT follow that the absence of military service or the rescuing of a baby indicates an absence of character. It means you must look elsewhere to determine what kind of man or woman you are examining.

Does it help to have a military background in politics? Well, sure. If you are going to the Commander in Chief or the armed forces, that would be the best possible page to have in your jacket. But if you are going to be sitting on a House finance committee, maybe not so much.

I don't think military service provides any direction as to what a man's politics are going to be. Perhaps the odds are good he or she will have some conservative blood in their veins, but there are liberal Democrats with military service in their backgrounds. I had a barracks roommate in the 80s who was an avowed socialist.

I did keep my eye on him.

There are other ways to determine what kind of judgement a man has than a background with military service in it.

 

[Conservative]

See how much they respect heroic military service?

see how much Kerry respected his medals?

get back on topic, asshat.

 

[g5000]

See how much they respect heroic military service?

I think the attacks on Kerry's service were shameful. There was no way that man should have been President, but he did volunteer to serve and put himself in harm's way repeatedly. That aspect of his life should be honored and respected. The attacks on Kerry's service betray more about the character of his assassins than him.

The way Kerry behaved after his service is fair game.

 

[Peach]

John Kerry is going to get benefits from the Wounded Warrior Program for his paper cut.

Kerry got his butt to where the war WAS; Romney stayed AWAY(.) What war has Obama been eligible to serve in? He was too young for Vietnam. I do consider service during combat, and outside of combat, as a factor. That is why I voted for GORE, KERRY then McCain.

 

[g5000]

See how much they respect heroic military service?

see how much Kerry respected his medals?

get back on topic, asshat.

There was a period after I retired after 20 years in the service that I felt like the world's biggest sucker. I have since learned from speaking to other vets this is not an uncommon phenomenom.

You don't really learn what you have sacrificed until you come home. And then doubts enter your mind about whether it was worth it.

Our country really does not honor our veterans any more, so there is a sense of betrayal which sometimes surfaces.

Speaking to some real old-timer vets has helped.

So I give Kerry a little bit of slack on that count.

Just a little.

 

[Jarhead]

John Kerry is going to get benefits from the Wounded Warrior Program for his paper cut.

Kerry got his butt to where the war WAS; Romney stayed AWAY(.) What war has Obama been eligible to serve in? He was too young for Vietnam. I do consider service during combat, and outside of combat, as a factor. That is why I voted for GORE, KERRY then McCain.

Service during combat makes a soldier harder emotionally....but does not make one more of a soldier than one that does not see combat.

For even during times of peace, a soldier is always prepared to go to combat....and that mnental preparation is what makes a soldier a soldier.

 

[Peach]

John Kerry is going to get benefits from the Wounded Warrior Program for his paper cut.

Kerry got his butt to where the war WAS; Romney stayed AWAY(.) What war has Obama been eligible to serve in? He was too young for Vietnam. I do consider service during combat, and outside of combat, as a factor. That is why I voted for GORE, KERRY then McCain.

Service during combat makes a soldier harder emotionally....but does not make one more of a soldier than one that does not see combat.

For even during times of peace, a soldier is always prepared to go to combat....and that mnental preparation is what makes a soldier a soldier.

My father was career military, served from WWI, at age 17 until Vietnam in his 40's. I respect those who SERVE.

 

[Jarhead]

Kerry got his butt to where the war WAS; Romney stayed AWAY(.) What war has Obama been eligible to serve in? He was too young for Vietnam. I do consider service during combat, and outside of combat, as a factor. That is why I voted for GORE, KERRY then McCain.

Service during combat makes a soldier harder emotionally....but does not make one more of a soldier than one that does not see combat.

For even during times of peace, a soldier is always prepared to go to combat....and that mnental preparation is what makes a soldier a soldier.

My father was career military, served from WWI, at age 17 until Vietnam in his 40's. I respect those who SERVE.

My thanks to your father.

But I am sure your father would agree that those thats SERVE include those that served during peacetime.

 

[blastoff]

Hell you fucks took a rich kid who fought and DIDNT avoid the draft and then recieved some of the highest honors this country gives a soldier and TRASHED his service.


guess who wins the asshold award in that debate.

YOU GUYS

Learn to proofread so you don't come off like the fucking idiot you are.

 

[Peach]

Service during combat makes a soldier harder emotionally....but does not make one more of a soldier than one that does not see combat.

For even during times of peace, a soldier is always prepared to go to combat....and that mnental preparation is what makes a soldier a soldier.

My father was career military, served from WWI, at age 17 until Vietnam in his 40's. I respect those who SERVE.

My thanks to your father.

But I am sure your father would agree that those thats SERVE include those that served during peacetime.

YES, he did. Though he once said "...it seems life is just one damn war after another". He was against the first Gulf War also.

 

[whitehall]

There was a time when Military service was practically mandatory for all 18 year old men. In my generation you planned on serving at least 2 years in the Military. The attitude is different today. There is no draft and fewer and fewer citizens who take up a political career have served in the Military. It's not fair to attack any politician or his family for choosing not to serve in the Military today but if a politician uses his Military service as a campaign tool it's fair game for scrutiny. John Kerry's entire campaign was based on his Medals but investigation revealed they were self recommended and the awards were questionable. George Bush never made an issue of his service in the Air National Guard but the left made it an issue and ultimately they used forged documents to try to undermine his Service and influence the election.

 

[Katzndogz]

Adopt the Starship Trooper method of citizenship. Only those who served in the military are citizens and can vote. Lifetime welfare recipients can't vote.

 

[WorldWatcher]

Adopt the Starship Trooper method of citizenship. Only those who served in the military are citizens and can vote. Lifetime welfare recipients can't vote.

Heinlein rocks, but there are many who would shit a brick if they read is later works.


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