Military Worship of Order

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    In another thread I ran across this post:

    which in itself really wouldn't mean very much to me.

    But, last night I was teaching a card gameto a couple of my son's friends that had come over, and I used the pack of US Army cards I'd picked up off a recruiter at some function/festival during the summer.

    Anyway, the one of the kids (12) saw the Logo, and said, "....oh, 'Army' Cards?...." I said, yes, ARMY CARDS, expecting to get some sort of flack from an Airforce Brat, since I'm in Colorado. Instead, she said, "SOooo......you like to tell other people what to do...."

    WTF? Where'd she learn that shit? I wanted to ask, but instead told her "Yeah, Now pick up your hand."
     
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    My understanding, as a civilian, is that you listen to your commander and do as you're trained so you don't get killed because you decided to be an idiot, run into the open, and get shot.
     
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    I also listen to firefighters when they tell me to get the fuck out of the building before we all die.

    I just trust that they know what they're talking about
     
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    Question:

    Do they still call career military people "lifers"?
     
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    But you're not 12.......um........right?
     
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    A myth perpetuated by the movies is that soldiers are mindless robots who can't move without orders issued by egomaniacal commanders.

    The truth is that soldiers are trained to exercise initiative, exploit opportunities and get the job done. As General Patton put it, "never tell people how to do things. Tell them what to do and they will surprise you with their ingenuity." The essence of Army leadership is to give just enough guidance so that the lowest ranking private can accomplish the mission should everyone else get captured or killed. Micromanagement is a civilian phenomenon.
     
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    Jose, whoever he is, doesn't have a clue as to what he's talking about. His statement is too stupid to even comment on....

    Now, about that poor misguided child playing with the Army cards. I think it was some sort of child abuse to not inform this child that the Navy is the best branch of service!:lol:
     
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    :lol:
     
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    Depends on the military. The US military has always tried to push initiative down, as there was no fear of independent thinking.

    The average US grunt was better trained in map reading and had more operational authority than the average Xussr captain.
     
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    Yah. Do what you are told no matter how stupid it is.
    I guess I have some problem with that as I got in trouble a bit in there.

    And I understand why it is that way. So the officers do not have to adjust to the situation and just follow the book. Well that and as was previously stated to keep you alive ;)
     

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