Mikey Moore: "Capitalism is a 'Ponzi Scheme'?

[Si modo]

Can you focus on the actual topic?

Now, try again selling your concept that capitalism is a ponzi scheme. See if you can formulate a decent rebuttal to the fact that you ignored normal distributions in your analysis, which makes it as idiotic as Michael Moore's.

You make an entire post trying to bash me and you say focus on the actual topic? ....

Don't be a pathetic whiner. If you can't take it, don't dish it out. And, most of all, don't pathetically whine about getting picked on when it happens. That's cringworthy and just not cute any longer.

..... As to my argument, I have already pointed out why Capitalism is PARTLY a Ponzi Scheme. You are misrepresenting my points as I never said that Capitalism is a full blown Ponzi Scheme. I stated that it gives the illusion of a Ponzi Scheme that if you work hard or invest this that you will get rich. Plus, like in a Ponzi scheme, Wealth is concentrated over time more and more to the people who run the Ponzi Scheme/Capitalism.

As I used the quote earlier, Capitalism tries for the delicate balance of giving people stuff so they don't riot and overthrow. However, in this country, the rich are proceeding to take away even that stuff which will leave the poor with in all reality nothing. If Wealth continues to concentrate at this rate, there will no longer be a middle class.

There will be a rich and a poor class like any other Third World Country.

Don't backpeddle. Here are your words:

....

In several ways, Capitalism IS a Ponzi-Scheme as it partly fits the definition.

Saying capitalism is a ponzi scheme because it partially fits a definition, means the condition for being a ponzi scheme is only partially meeting the definition. That's idiotic.

 

[alan1]

Time to kick back with some and \~/
Thanks T for the thread.

 

[Toro]

Well yes, which is why I said at this current rate. I'm sure you have noticed the increase in concentration of Wealth for the Upper class in recent years? The top 20% have made gains in both Total Net Worth and Financial Wealth. Though I'm not sure what kind of effect the financial crisis has done to that.

Sure. The wealthiest have benefited the most over the past 20 years, though the financial crisis have hit the wealthiest the hardest in terms of relative wealth decline, if not in actual day-to-day living.

However, the system works pretty well. It needs fine-tuning, not to be blown up.

 

[BasicGreatGuy]

And for the record, I am a filthy America status quo hater, who believes I should be able to make as much money as my filthy anti-big government hands can make. And if other people don't make as much as me, or make more than me, I don't care.

 

[Si modo]

Ah, yes. Throwing out an insult, when you have nothing of substance to offer.

Si isn't a troll. She merely disagrees with you. I would say that if you don't want insults born of an acerbic nature, it would be best not to engage in such behavior yourself.

I'm not throwing out an insult. Not my fault that's what some on your side actually believe.

Also, Si is a concern troll. Perhaps you have not seen her behavior in other threads but she has shown herself to be a concern troll. She showed it last night in the U.N thread and the other night in the Paterson thread where she cried that Obama was breaking the 10th amendment but couldn't back it up. Unsurprisingly, she was the only one trying to offer up that grade A Bullshit as fact.

Oh.....

my.......

God.




Can your whining get any more cringeworthy?

Let it go, man.








Let it go.

 

[Modbert]

Don't be a pathetic whiner. If you can't take it, don't dish it out. And, most of all, don't pathetically whine about getting picked on when it happens. That's cringworthy and just not cute any longer. .....

Don't backpeddle. Here are your words:

....

In several ways, Capitalism IS a Ponzi-Scheme as it partly fits the definition.

Saying capitalism is a ponzi scheme because it partially fits a definition, means the condition for being a ponzi scheme is only partially meeting the definition. That's idiotic.

I'm not whining, you're the one who's whining about getting back on-topic.

And what I meant by that was Capitalism in my opinion shows some signs of a Ponzi Scheme. Yes, there is no product. I think you fail to understand that my posts in this entire thread point is that Capitalism is not perfect.

 

[PatekPhilippe]

Like I said before, Capitalism is flawed but it is the best system we got. I have already said that Socialism is not a better system. I'm merely trying to get across Dude that Capitalism is not perfect.

I think Dude has grasped that thought....by the same token I would rather have capitalism than socialism any day of the week. Socialism breeds lazyness and keeps the country's people under the thumb of government. This is intolerable to me.

You only go around once in life and relying on the government to give you a free ride is just plain stupidity in my book.

 

[Oddball]

Like I said before, Capitalism is flawed but it is the best system we got. I have already said that Socialism is not a better system. I'm merely trying to get across Dude that Capitalism is not perfect.

When did I even imply that capitalism was perfect?

G'head and look.....I defy you.

 

[Modbert]

Sure. The wealthiest have benefited the most over the past 20 years, though the financial crisis have hit the wealthiest the hardest in terms of relative wealth decline, if not in actual day-to-day living.

However, the system works pretty well. It needs fine-tuning, not to be blown up.

I agree, it doesn't need to be blown up. Also, that was my question, thanks for answering. I assumed the wealthiest had taken a hit in wealth decline from this recent crisis, just wasn't sure how much.

 

[Modbert]

When did I even imply that capitalism was perfect?

G'head and look.....I defy you.

You never did. I was addressing my post to you about my comments in general.

 

[The T]

Like I said before, Capitalism is flawed but it is the best system we got. I have already said that Socialism is not a better system. I'm merely trying to get across Dude that Capitalism is not perfect.

When did I even imply that capitalism was perfect?

G'head and look.....I defy you.

It isn't. But it speaks to Liberty of the individual to do the best for himself, and by his/her success, empowers others to do likewise.

Hmmm...I wonder if this is the same 'scheme" Mr. Mikey Lardass Speaks of?

 

[Fatality]

That's putting words in your mouth? LOL. You are so paranoid. It's cute to see you virtually wet your pants.

Yes, it is. You're nothing but a concern troll who adds nothing to the conversation.

In several ways, Capitalism IS a Ponzi-Scheme as it partly fits the definition.

so how are your comrades at the protest doing, any been arrested?

 

[Si modo]

Don't be a pathetic whiner. If you can't take it, don't dish it out. And, most of all, don't pathetically whine about getting picked on when it happens. That's cringworthy and just not cute any longer.

..... As to my argument, I have already pointed out why Capitalism is PARTLY a Ponzi Scheme. You are misrepresenting my points as I never said that Capitalism is a full blown Ponzi Scheme. I stated that it gives the illusion of a Ponzi Scheme that if you work hard or invest this that you will get rich. Plus, like in a Ponzi scheme, Wealth is concentrated over time more and more to the people who run the Ponzi Scheme/Capitalism.

Don't backpeddle. Here are your words:

....

In several ways, Capitalism IS a Ponzi-Scheme as it partly fits the definition.

Saying capitalism is a ponzi scheme because it partially fits a definition, means the condition for being a ponzi scheme is only partially meeting the definition. That's idiotic.

I'm not whining, you're the one who's whining about getting back on-topic.

And what I meant by that was Capitalism in my opinion shows some signs of a Ponzi Scheme. Yes, there is no product. I think you fail to understand that my posts in this entire thread point is that Capitalism is not perfect.

Your point is idiotic. Address what I said and not what you think I said.

I'll go slower for you: You said A=B, because part of A meets the conditions of B.

Bullshit on it's face.

And you cry about getting called out on it?

Pathetic.

 

[BasicGreatGuy]

Michale Moore makes money off a capitalistic foundation. He is getting nice and rich. But as MountainMan aptly pointed out, Michael considers that "different." Amazing how many that dislike capitalism ignore the fact that Michael Moore is a hypocrite, while holding him up as the voice of happy meal reason.

 

[PatekPhilippe]

Like I said before, Capitalism is flawed but it is the best system we got. I have already said that Socialism is not a better system. I'm merely trying to get across Dude that Capitalism is not perfect.

When did I even imply that capitalism was perfect?

G'head and look.....I defy you.

It isn't. But it speaks to Liberty of the individual to do the best for himself, and by his/her success, empowers others to do likewise.

Hmmm...I wonder if this is the same 'scheme" Mr. Mikey Lardass Speaks of?

Exactly. Lardass Moore came from a shithole of a state and made it big in Hollywood by making fictional dramas set in present day news events. I gotta hand it to the guy. He took advantage of all of the stupid ass people dumb enough to believe his tripe and he made a fortune. It's the American dream and he's a classic snake oil salesman.

 

[Modbert]

Michale Moore makes money off a capitalistic foundation. He is getting nice and rich. But as MountainMan aptly pointed out, Michael considers that "different." Amazing how many that dislike capitalism ignore the fact that Michael Moore is a hypocrite, while holding him up as the voice of happy meal reason.

When you say dislike, you mean in general or certain aspects?

And Michael Moore is a hypocrite, I'm pretty sure everyone except those who are blind sheep on the Left realize that.

 

[The T]

Sure. The wealthiest have benefited the most over the past 20 years, though the financial crisis have hit the wealthiest the hardest in terms of relative wealth decline, if not in actual day-to-day living.

However, the system works pretty well. It needs fine-tuning, not to be blown up.

I agree, it doesn't need to be blown up. Also, that was my question, thanks for answering. I assumed the wealthiest had taken a hit in wealth decline from this recent crisis, just wasn't sure how much.

Even a little is too much. The Domino effect takes place in that regard, and exactly what we see going on NOW.

The remedy by Obama? By Mikey Lardass? Impose more sanctions on economic Liberty, by Govenment FIAT.

Yeah! That's the solution.

I wonder how Mikey would feel if he were thrust in the same boat he seems to pupport, if it is deemed he 'makes too much", and is stealing it by his endeavours? [And by the same Bunch of Marxists he supports]?

 

[The T]

When did I even imply that capitalism was perfect?

G'head and look.....I defy you.

It isn't. But it speaks to Liberty of the individual to do the best for himself, and by his/her success, empowers others to do likewise.

Hmmm...I wonder if this is the same 'scheme" Mr. Mikey Lardass Speaks of?

Exactly. Lardass Moore came from a shithole of a state and made it big in Hollywood by making fictional dramas set in present day news events. I gotta hand it to the guy. He took advantage of all of the stupid ass people dumb enough to believe his tripe and he made a fortune. It's the American dream and he's a classic snake oil salesman.

BINGO. I am glad to have you as someone who gets the gist of it.

Thumbs up.

 

[Modbert]

Even a little is too much. The Domino effect takes place in that regard, and exactly what we see going on NOW.

The remedy by Obama? By Mikey Lardass? Impose more sanctions on economic Liberty, by Govenment FIAT.

Yeah! That's the solution.

I wonder how Mikey would feel if he were thrust in the same boat he seems to pupport, if it is deemed he 'makes too much", and is stealing it by his endeavours? [And by the same Bunch of Marxists he supports]?

Except a good amount of that financial regulations were taken off in the early 80's, and then especially under Clinton, and into the early years of W. Bush. I'm not sure if you are trying to point the blame on regulation for this one but you're pointing wrong if you are.

 

[The T]

Michale Moore makes money off a capitalistic foundation. He is getting nice and rich. But as MountainMan aptly pointed out, Michael considers that "different." Amazing how many that dislike capitalism ignore the fact that Michael Moore is a hypocrite, while holding him up as the voice of happy meal reason.

And the entire GIST of this thread.

Interesting the Leftists seem to enjoy demeaning the system they PROFIT from?

Imagine that for a moment if you will? Puts it into perspective. And this is what Obama, and the Statist Elite want YOU to subscribe to. [When all the while THEY gain treasure from what they dennounce/demean].

A gaggle of hypocrites.

I'd like to thank LARDBUTT Moore for highlighting my point, and the subsequent duiscussion here in this thread.