Middle East in 2015

[ekrem]

Turkish Stock Exchange
15th October 2002 = 10.987 points
6th December 2010 = 67.712 points

XU100: ISE NATIONAL 100 INDEX Summary - Bloomberg
Artýk IMF’yle iþimiz yok borcumuz 2012’de bitecek - Hürriyet Ekonomi

 

[ekrem]

ukti.gov.uk

OECD estimates that Turkey will be the fastest-growing economy after China and India by 2017.

OECD economic outlook Nr.86 between 2011-2017
GDP growth 6.7

 

[ekrem]

Economy of Turkey - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Turkish Public Debt GDP ratio.

 

[R.C. Christian]

Marc39 are you jewish or just an israeli shill? Jew I can handle, shill I can I cannot. In any event your postings refelcect an intelligence quotient much lower than jewish mean of 105 so I suspect you're a gentile.

 

[ekrem]

Debt compared to EU countries in relation to GDP

invest.gov.tr/

 

[ekrem]

army-technology.com - Altay Main Battle Tank - Army Technology

1.000 new MBT's

Turkey intends to build 250 MITÜP Altay MBTs initially, and ultimately produce 1,000 new tanks in four separate lots of 250 units.
Altay will incorporate the most modern features of a tank

This is Altay's sister: S.Korean XK-2.
But Altay has stronger chassis, more wheels and heavier protection
Read army-technology link.
army-technology.com - Altay Main Battle Tank - Army Technology

 

[ekrem]

Self-sufficiency rate of armaments production:

 

[ekrem]

Turkish defence exports.
2008 = 784 Million $.
Goal for 2011 = 1 Billion $.

 

[ekrem]

airforce-technology.com - T129 Multi-Role Combat Helicopter - Air Force Technology

60 new Attack Helicopters.
Delivery will start in 2013.

Italian-Turkish development.
TAI/AgustaWestland T-129 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[ekrem]

naval-technology.com - Milgem Class Multimission Corvettes - Naval Technology

8 new ASW Corvettes
4 new Frigates

Project dubbed MILGEM
Entry into NAVY beginning 2013.

 

[Jroc]

So, my question was: Who is going to wipe-out Turkey?

Turkey will wipe out Turkey from self-immolation if they dont change course. Turkey should also stop occupying Cyprus and blockading Armenia.

They are going in the wrong direction.

Under heavy government pressure, Turkish military stops booting suspected "Islamists"


A direct assault on Turkey's most reliable bastion of secularism. For Erdogan's agenda and that of his allies, that would certainly have to go. "Turkey's military pressed to accept Islamists; Tensions high," from the World Tribune, December 3:

ANKARA -- Turkey's military, under heavy government pressure, has suspended its dismissal of Islamic fundamentalists.
The Supreme Military Council has halted the longstanding practice of expelling Turkish soldiers and officers suspected of Islamist ties. At a council meeting on Nov. 30, no soldiers were dismissed.

"This is unprecedented, but clearly reflects the fact that the military now answers to the government and not the other way around," a Turkish official said.
What it ultimately calls into question is the nature of Turkey -- secular or Islamic? -- and whose system of laws Turkish soldiers are commanded to uphold and defend.

Relations between the military and government remain tense. President Abdullah Gul cut short the military council session for a trip to Kazakhstan. Usually, the president has ended the council meeting by hosting lunch for senior commanders.
On Oct. 29, the Turkish General Staff boycotted a presidential reception after the suspension of three generals. The generals have appealed to the Supreme Military Administrative Court.

Officials said the council has been under increasing pressure from the pro-Islamist government of Prime Minister Recep Erdogan to stop firing soldiers suspected of being fundamentalists. Over the last three years, the military council has been expelling fewer and fewer Islamists.

"The council discussed requirements for military operations as well security of Turkey's borders," a statement said.
In 2009, two military officers were dismissed. Before the military meeting, Erdogan met Chief of Staff Gen. Isik Kosaner to coordinate proceedings.


Under heavy government pressure, Turkish military stops booting suspected "Islamists" - Jihad Watch

 

[ekrem]

ukinturkey.fco.gov.uk

- World's 16th and Europe’s 6th largest economy
- Turkey aims to be the world’s 10th largest economy by 2023, on the 100th anniversary of the foundation of the Republic
- Turkey grew by 11.7% during the first quarter of 2010
- World’s 8th and Europe’s 3rd largest iron and steel producer
- Europe's 2nd largest light commercial vehicle manufacturer
- 4th automotive and parts manufacturer of Europe
- leading passenger bus manufacturer in Europe
- Istanbul’s GNP surpasses that of many countries such as Romania, Ukraine

 

[ekrem]

(...)
Under heavy government pressure, Turkish military stops booting suspected "Islamists" - Jihad Watch

And what?
Will you bomb or wipe us out like that HinduPatriot ?

"You’re really looking at the 600-lb. gorilla of the region."
George Friedman, STRATFOR CEO
LINK: Stratfor's George Friedman: Long Turkey, Short China - Columns - Index Funds, Indexes

 

[Marc39]

(...)
Under heavy government pressure, Turkish military stops booting suspected "Islamists" - Jihad Watch

And what?
Will you bomb or wipe us out like that HinduPatriot ?

"You’re really looking at the 600-lb. gorilla of the region."
George Friedman, STRATFOR CEO
LINK: Stratfor's George Friedman: Long Turkey, Short China - Columns - Index Funds, Indexes

Turkish Muzzies will wipe themselves out. You're doomed, mf'er.

 

[Marc39]

"You’re really looking at the 600-lb. gorilla of the region."

Big fucking deal. Israel makes Turkey look like a 90 lb monkey and has supplied Turkey with its arms.

 

[Jroc]

(...)
Under heavy government pressure, Turkish military stops booting suspected "Islamists" - Jihad Watch

And what?
Will you bomb or wipe us out like that HinduPatriot ?

"You’re really looking at the 600-lb. gorilla of the region."
George Friedman, STRATFOR CEO
LINK: Stratfor's George Friedman: Long Turkey, Short China - Columns - Index Funds, Indexes

Look.. The point is if Turkey continues to go down the islamist road they'll be finished,. Unless of course the military reasserts its power before the radicals gain control of the government. Either way there is NO certainty on Turkey’s future right now, You can post all you're glowing stats if you want but the reality is future is uncertain for that country

 

[ekrem]

Look.. The point is if Turkey continues to go down the islamist road they'll be finished,. Unless of course the military reasserts its power before the radicals gain control of the government. Either way there is NO certainty on Turkey’s future right now, You can post all you're glowing stats if you want but the reality is future is uncertain for that country

You are lying to yourself.
There was world-wide economic crisis, yet, economy performs with highest growth within G-20 behind China. Given this fact, there are no uncertainties.

Economy and population will grow.
Tax-collection and government-budget will continue to rise.
Debt-to-GDP ratio will continue to sink.

Turkey has cultural and historic ties to all the places Turkey disconnected with in 1918. Nothing unnatural about Turkey showing interest in the developments of these regions (see common-market in 1st post).
What was abnormal was the absence of this interest for decades, partly due to economic impotence and being jailed into Cold-War by Superpowers.

In 1918, Turkey was an agricultural country of 19 millions having to form a nation-state out of rest-population of a multinational Caliph-Confederation who relocated or were forced out of their homelands into Anatolia.
Today, we are world's 16th largest (15th PPP) industrial country of 75 millions, which is on a healthy and sustainable growth-path aiming to become 10th largest in 2023, when the Republic turns 100 years old.
Now, we need yearly growth of 8.2% to achieve that aim. if we achieve it in 2023 or 2026 is not that really important, because besides Russia there is no power in West-Asia to over-power Turkey in capabilities. How that capabilities are used is again a total different subject, but the capabilities are and will increasingly be exerted outwards of the Turkish borders. Why? Because we simply can.

What the Generals or Politicians do in Ankara regarding domestic-politics is not going to change anything to the fact, that economic size allows Turkey to become more independent and by that focussed on self-interests.

All those mindsets like you or Marc39 know it also. Preaching uncertainty won't bring uncertainty or a power to contain Turkey.
If you build Intel chip or have won 6 nobels does also not change the fact, that countries in Turkey's periphery have all smaller economies and a smaller industrial base.

 

[ekrem]

And please stop your Neo-Con fantasies about bombing Iran. It is not going to happen. And Iran won't be containable like Iraq was.
Iran is going to get its share of this region, if you like it or not, it will maximize and consolidate its influence everywhere where Shiites live. Simple as that. It is Iran's historic role.
Iran has the same potential as Turkey has, only that Turkey has achieved a development gap to Iran, and that Turkey plays to a wider audience (Balkans, Sunnites and to a lesser extent the Turkic Republics in Central Asia).

US (as successor of Brits and French) is re-deploying and since dissolution of Ottoman Empire, regional states will for first time really enforce their designs on this region. I said this since 2005, now it is happening.

World was a lot easier for USA after dissolution of Soviet Empire, when regional states where somewhere in the range of 30th or 40th biggest economy and China was still an economical midget.
Times have changed and on all Continents except N. American and Australia there are arising regional and middle powers all vying to play a greater role.
Plus, US is in unhealthy finance status and China has become a real giant, which with every passing year will force the USA to redeploy capabilities to China's vicinity.

 

[Marc39]

And please stop your Neo-Con fantasies about bombing Iran.

The Arab countries want Iran bombed, as revealed in the WikiLeaks.

The Ambassador to the UAE has gone on record as stating Iran must be bombed.

Are Arabs Neo-Cons or is this yet another illustration of Muzzie ignorance?

No wonder the Islamic world is so backward. You are clueless about the Middle East.

 

[Douger]

so clearly Israel could bring some know how to the table, no?

Turk Telekom is Europe's 5th largest telecommunication company.
It controls 16,800 miles of fiber-optic networks in 16 central and southeastern European countries
News Detail | Home | Türk Telekom

I think, they have the know-how to implement fiber-optic lines in the Middle-East for data-integration of the involved countries.

LOL, big fucking deal.

Israel invented the Pentium and Centrino microprocessors for Intel that power most computers in the world.

Where wuz allah when Intel needed him?

Linus Torvalds figured out what to do with them.