Middle East in 2015

[ekrem]

Number10.gov.uk
David Cameron:
(...)the Turkish economy is likely to outstrip Canada, Spain and Italy by 2025


David Cameron (Prime Minister of UK) explains which steps are taken to double British-Turkish trade within the next 5 years.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6O20zuhLvZY[/ame]

 

[Marc39]

Number10.gov.uk
David Cameron:
(...)the Turkish economy is likely to outstrip Canada, Spain and Italy by 2025


David Cameron (Prime Minister of UK) explains which steps are taken to double British-Turkish trade within the next 5 years.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6O20zuhLvZY

England has become Englandistan. No surprise, there.

 

[Marc39]

Turkish TV conquering Arab world
Video from CNN

Video - Breaking News Videos from CNN.com

Soaps such as Gumus (Noor in Arabic) and Cry of a Stone are not particularly successful in Turkey itself.
But in Damascus, Cairo and Riyadh, 80 million people can tune in for a single episode.
Read more: CBC News - Television - Turkish soaps find fans in Arab world


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Quite simply, the Arab world is taking to these soap operas like a duck to water.
The final episode of the most famous one -- broadcast on MBC TV -- called Gumus (or Noor as it's known in Arabic), pulled in 80 million viewers from Morocco to Palestine.
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Leave it to Turkish soap operas to conquer hearts and mindsin the Arab world by Nadia Bilbassy Charters | The Middle East Channel

Any TV programs in Turkey about the Turks' role in the genocide of 2 million Armenians?

Oh, that's right, it never even happened, as far as the Turkish holocaust deniers are concerned

 

[ekrem]

What has happened to the Armenians is similar to what has happened to the Cherokees
Trail of Tears - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The difference is, that the Armenians were relocated in war-time from Eastern Anatolian as the Russians were preparing for an WW1 invasion of Eastern Anatolia.
Both Armenians and Russians are of Orthodox faith and the Armenians were in the psychology of "getting liberated by their Russian faith-brothers.

The military planers of that time thought, that fighting the Russians in such theater in Eastern Anatolia would be a disadvantage.
So the Armenians have been relocated to Syria.

 

[ekrem]

The first genocide in 20th Century is the Herero Genocide
Herero and Namaqua Genocide - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Hereros? Yes, but they are Negros and not Jewish so nobody gives a fuck about what has happened to them.
Neither do 700.000 Hereros live in S.California like Armenians do.
So Californian Congressmen/-women overlook the Hereros quite easily, because they have nothing to gain from exploiting this issue for election or re-election.

If you do gencide recognition by religious preferences or for gains in local politics, then it will get funny in the next years as there are many occurrences of genocide in the West's history to exploit for same reasons.

 

[Marc39]

What has happened to the Armenians is similar to what has happened to the Cherokees
Trail of Tears - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The difference is, that the Armenians were relocated in war-time from Eastern Anatolian as the Russians were preparing for an WW1 invasion of Eastern Anatolia.
Both Armenians and Russians are of Orthodox faith and the Armenians were in the psychology of "getting liberated by their Russian faith-brothers.

The military planers of that time thought, that fighting the Russians in such theater in Eastern Anatolia would be a disadvantage.
So the Armenians have been relocated to Syria.

Except, the Turks resolutely refuse to acknowledge any role in the Armenian genocide. Indeed, they deny it.

Turkey = Holocaust Deniers.

The EU prohibits the denial of any genocide in history. It is a crime to do so. Another reason Turkey will never be accepted into the EU

 

[ekrem]

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The EU prohibits the denial of any genocide in history. It is a crime to do so. Another reason Turkey will never be accepted into the EU

Bullshit.
There is debate if French activities in Algeria classify as genocide, even if it does not, it still was a big massacre.
Where it is more clear is the colonial history of Belgium in Africa. You know, the country where most of the EU institutes reside in. No one gives a fuck about Belgium's history.
And no one gives a fuck about the Herero genocide done by Germans in Africa.

There are so-called 35 negotiation chapters a country must succesfully close with which the EU has opened membership-talks.
The 35 negotiation chapters range from 'Public Procurement' to 'Fishery'.
There is no such thing like 'History' in the 35 negotiation chapters.

Turkey is part of EU common market since 1996.
The start of accession talks (35 negotiation chapters) was in 2005 and is a logic evolution of existing relations.
The EU countries don't have a common stance on how to proceed with Turkey although membership-negotiation still proceed.
Stopping the talks by either side at the moment would lead to total abolishment of successive achievements and commitments in bilateral relations through the past decades. If the accession talks were stopped now, EU and Turkey will wakeup in the 50's or 60's of last century when it comes to bilateral relations.

It is also evident, that the EU as it currently functions would cease to exist with its current German-French core once Turkey joins EU as full-fledged member into the EU institutions.
Turkey will reach Germany's population size in 2015 (read 1st post in this thread, there is link). So Turkey would immediately become most populous EU member and relocate away the classical power-balance within EU, where power is defined by a national share in EU-institutions which is calculated by each member's population size.
That is also the reason why the Brits and Italians are most supportive of Turkish membership. They are seeing Turkey as the ally to break up the French-German composition in supremacy over EU's internal institutions.

France is the biggest obstacle to Turkish EU membership because of above mentioned reasons.
Anyway, EU membership is no 'life-or-death'-issue for Turkey, we are doing quite good on our own.

In the next years, EU and Turkey will sit on a table and formulate a political agreement which will define playing rules for the bilateral relations throughout the next decades. If this framework will be membership is doubtful, but Turkey will definitely get vote in decision making of EU's defence policy ( Common Security and Defence Policy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia )
and Turkey will be included in any set-up of EU peacekeepers as Turkey already participates in these kind of EU missions.
It is also likely that Turkey will join the EU's defense agency which co-ordinates defense-industry projects.
Access to several intra-EU funds will also be granted like the RFP-programs in science and industry where Turkey also already participates in.

Except Turkish representation within EU institutions and adoption of €, Turkey can be already be classified as EU member.
Then comes all the energy subject and pipelines within the Southern corridor of the EU.
We will continue to work together in economic, energy and security sphere with EU. Continuation of current relations at better quality.
For countries like France influence will end in Western Balkans. East of it is Turkey.

 

[Marc39]

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The EU prohibits the denial of any genocide in history. It is a crime to do so. Another reason Turkey will never be accepted into the EU

Bullshit.

It is against the law in the EU to publically deny any genocide.

Deal with it, Armenian holocaust denier.

You'll never get into the EU because even the Eurotrash want nothing to do with you jihadists.

 

[ekrem]

It is against the law in the EU to publically deny any genocide.
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Please inform yourself on the subject, before you comment with such claims on the subject.

 

[Marc39]

It is against the law in the EU to publically deny any genocide.
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Please inform yourself on the subject, before you comment with such claims on the subject.

You deny Turks' genocide of 2 million Armenians. You inform yourself, Mahoundian

Allahu Fucku