Michigan Governor Signs Bill Giving Broad Powers to Emergency Financial Mgrs.

[Charles_Main]

Governor Rick snyder signs bill giving broad new powers to emergency financial managers

So the govenor realizes he screwed the economy up and is trying to fix his mistakes. Sounds reasonable to me.

You mean the Governor who just took office a couple months ago? You think he is to blame for Michigan's economic and Budget problems eh.

I think the previous 12 years of Democrat Rule are the real culprit.

 

[Two Thumbs]

*yawn*

Didn't we do this yesterday in another thread?

Once again. The power to break contracts and remove elected officials is a last resort. In other words; To save the city we will cut people loose. I'm fairly certain these people will be asked to do thier part for the greater good before they are removed.

It's an emergency power, so when the emergency is over, so is the power.

 

[Two Thumbs]

Yep, We have had a few cities here in Michigan. Where the State Police took over. Arrested half the local cops and Officials. Unlike the States to Fed Relationship. Municipalities are not independent Powers. They do not share power with the States, they derive their power from the states.

Expect to see more and more of this around the country. The left will scream and yell and call it a war on Unions, and to a point they will be right. The plain simple Truth is these budget problems are massive, and state after state. A huge driving part of the Problem is Wages and Benefits, Pensions, Etc paid to state employees.

You can not cut state budgets and not cut the amount the state pays its employees, or cut the number of Employees. As believe it or not, Wages and Benefits is the least essential thing states spend their money on. What would you have them cut instead? Food assistance to the poor? Medicaid? emergency Utility assistance? What ?

Or maybe you think we can just tax "the rich" some more and take care of it?

lol

YES...what sacrifice are any of these Governors asking of the wealthy? In Wisconsin Walker cut the pay of schoolteachers, nurses and other public employees and handed the rich THIS:

Since his inauguration in early January, Walker has approved $140 million in new special interest spending that includes:

* $25 million for an economic development fund for job creation that still has $73 million due to a lack of job creation. Walker is creating a $25 million hole which will not create or retain jobs. [Wisconsin Legislative Fiscal Bureau, 1/7/11]

* $48 million for private health savings accounts, which primarily benefit the wealthy. A study from the federal Governmental Accountability Office showed the average adjusted gross income of HSA participants was $139,000 and nearly half of HSA participants reported withdrawing nothing from their HSA, evidence that it is serving as a tax shelter for wealthy participants. [Government Accountability Office, 4/1/08; Wisconsin Legislative Fiscal Bureau, 1/11/11]

* $67 million for a tax shift plan, so ill-conceived that at-best the benefit provided to job creators would be less than a dollar a day per new job, and may be as little as 30 cents a day. [Associated Press, 1/28/01]

Walker made numerous statements before and after his election as governor criticizing borrowing schemes as a means of balancing the state's budget.

Walker Concocts 'Scoop and Toss' Borrowing Scheme to Pay for $140 Million in Special Interest Spending

Nice union talking points, governers want to attract buisness to create jobs in the states HSAs are rich people? Please.. all that is so lame I'm not even going to waste my time on it. anyway this thread is about bankrupt local governments that the state has to takeover, Stay on topic, this is Michigan not Wisconson

It's a typical liberal post.

I've lost the argument, so instead of admitting we are wrong, or at least wondering away, I will change the subject to something else and derail the thread.

 

[Bfgrn]

Revenue comes from taxes on businesses and on taxpayers.

If you don't have a good environment for business they will leave.

On the other hand most taxpayers stay so they get stuck with higher and higher taxes to fund everything.

The public sector unions don't seem to care how high the taxes are as long as their members get the sweetheart deals.

I think you will find more and more States will be doing what WI and MI are doing.

What that chart tells us is trickle down Reaganomics FAILED. The wealthy didn't invest the Reagan and Bush tax breaks in America. All those tax breaks did is create a new Gilded age. And jobs for 3rd world countries.

So here's my solution. Tax the fuck out of the wealthy. 94% on anything over 1 million dollars. If the wealthy don't want to pay for the privilege of living in America, let them live in the squalor their 3rd world wages support.

Then we will have a PERFORMANCE tax break. If these opulent elite create American jobs, we will heap generous tax breaks on them. If they don't perform, let 'em leave.

 

[Bfgrn]

Governor Rick snyder signs bill giving broad new powers to emergency financial managers

So the govenor realizes he screwed the economy up and is trying to fix his mistakes. Sounds reasonable to me.

You mean the Governor who just took office a couple months ago? You think he is to blame for Michigan's economic and Budget problems eh.

I think the previous 12 years of Democrat Rule are the real culprit.

But the 12 years of Republican rule in Washington is Obama's fault.

 

[Two Thumbs]

You mean the Governor who just took office a couple months ago? You think he is to blame for Michigan's economic and Budget problems eh.

I think the previous 12 years of Democrat Rule are the real culprit.

But the 12 years of Republican rule in Washington is Obama's fault.

thats TOTALLY different

b/c reps didn't rule for 12 years

 

[GHook93]

Revenue comes from taxes on businesses and on taxpayers.

If you don't have a good environment for business they will leave.

On the other hand most taxpayers stay so they get stuck with higher and higher taxes to fund everything.

The public sector unions don't seem to care how high the taxes are as long as their members get the sweetheart deals.

I think you will find more and more States will be doing what WI and MI are doing.

What that chart tells us is trickle down Reaganomics FAILED. The wealthy didn't invest the Reagan and Bush tax breaks in America. All those tax breaks did is create a new Gilded age. And jobs for 3rd world countries.

So here's my solution. Tax the fuck out of the wealthy. 94% on anything over 1 million dollars. If the wealthy don't want to pay for the privilege of living in America, let them live in the squalor their 3rd world wages support.

Then we will have a PERFORMANCE tax break. If these opulent elite create American jobs, we will heap generous tax breaks on them. If they don't perform, let 'em leave.

During Reagan's years he cut unemployment in half, which was around 10% because of Obama senior aka Jimmy Carter. American produced 28% of the world's goods, that is a record for not only America but any country. The middle class grew to it's largest levels in US history!

I really think Libs hate Reagan because he was successful in defeating communism and making capitalism stronger!

 

[Bfgrn]

Revenue comes from taxes on businesses and on taxpayers.

If you don't have a good environment for business they will leave.

On the other hand most taxpayers stay so they get stuck with higher and higher taxes to fund everything.

The public sector unions don't seem to care how high the taxes are as long as their members get the sweetheart deals.

I think you will find more and more States will be doing what WI and MI are doing.

What that chart tells us is trickle down Reaganomics FAILED. The wealthy didn't invest the Reagan and Bush tax breaks in America. All those tax breaks did is create a new Gilded age. And jobs for 3rd world countries.

So here's my solution. Tax the fuck out of the wealthy. 94% on anything over 1 million dollars. If the wealthy don't want to pay for the privilege of living in America, let them live in the squalor their 3rd world wages support.

Then we will have a PERFORMANCE tax break. If these opulent elite create American jobs, we will heap generous tax breaks on them. If they don't perform, let 'em leave.

During Reagan's years he cut unemployment in half, which was around 10% because of Obama senior aka Jimmy Carter. American produced 28% of the world's goods, that is a record for not only America but any country. The middle class grew to it's largest levels in US history!

I really think Libs hate Reagan because he was successful in defeating communism and making capitalism stronger!

How many pieces of evidence will you need to prove you are full of shit? First though, you made claims that you must provide sources and links for.

 

[scar]

i'd like to see the text of this bill, but doesn't it enable this emergency director to dissolve a whole municipality and appoint whomever he wishes, for example, a private corporation to run things? seems like a total attack on the democratic process and should be ruled unconstitutional by a high court.

 

[scar]

seems i was correct, as:

Gov. Snyder’s extraordinary law became all too real this week when Emergency Financial Manager, Joseph Harris, appointed by the Governor to take charge of Benton Harbor, Michigan, issued an order which took away all powers of the city’s elected officials.

revolutionaryviews.com/chris/Eclectablog/JoeHarrisOrders.pdf

blogs.forbes.com/rickungar/2011/04/16/gov-scott-walker-reportedly-planning-financial-martial-law-in-wisconsin/

 

[scar]

a light at the end of the tunnel?

Lawsuit seeks injunction on Emergency Manager law
Plaintiff: ‘This is not democracy, this is dictatorship'
michiganmessenger.com/50121/lawsuit-seeks-injunction-on-emergency-manager-law