Michael Moore....

[Jackass]

Originally posted by GWBfan
You are right. He doesn't lie about "everything"..Just 90% of his info. And no he isn't smarter than our president. He is just in a position to influence the liberal media, and use Hollywood as his go-to guys. Michael Moore needs to eat enough to finally keel over with a coronary. America would be blessed.

Can you back this up?? Link please....

 

[JIHADTHIS]

Originally posted by Modu$OperanDi
The movie does it justice.
We are taking the war to the enimies. There are several other nations which have the credentials of the 'enemy' - just as Iraq did. Will we start wars with EVERY country which is the enemy? That, my friend, is trying to dominate the world far too much. That makes America a larger target. That makes the world less safe.

Too bad we can't have a war on ignorance, we could make you the poster child. Didn't know there were different degrees of domination. If you are dominating, how much is too much?

We're already a target. The internal enemy is the extreme leftist Dhimmicrats and the external enemy is our friends the Islamofascists.

 

[Annie]

Originally posted by JIHADTHIS
Too bad we can't have a war on ignorance, we could make you the poster child. Didn't know there were different degrees of domination. If you are dominating, how much is too much?

We're already a target. The internal enemy is the extreme leftist Dhimmicrats and the external enemy is our friends the Islamofascists.

 

[007]

Originally posted by Modu$OperanDi
Mr. Bush is up to evil, evil business.

Is it "fighting terrorists" that you call "evil business"? Or are you just here trolling giving us all some idea what kind of moron you are?

 

[Annie]

Originally posted by Pale Rider
Is it "fighting terrorists" that you call "evil business"? Or are you just here trolling giving us all some idea what kind of moron you are?

He never did answer SE or me...I guess that's your answer.

 

[Annie]

Well here is an interesting poster you might wish to pass out, in order to start a kerfuffle after the 911 movie lets out:

http://www.moorewatch.com/f911flyer.pdf

via: http://www.classicalvalues.com/

Where there are a lot more suggestions on how the public might deal with Moore's piece of 'art'.

 

[Annie]

From Mr. Joyce's site of choice: http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0604/hate-riotism.php3?printer_friendly

By Dr. Ergun Mehmet Caner

Persian Turkish immigrant raised a Sunni Muslim has a message for the filmmaker: ‘You spit in the face of my dead countrymen’

http://www.jewishworldreview.com | He was lauded with a twenty-minute standing ovation at the Cannes Film Festival. A.O. Scott of the New York Times calls his movie a "passionate expression of outraged patriotism." At the June showing of Fahrenheit 911 before the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Science in Los Angeles, he received a standing ovation of over a minute.

And Michael Moore's most recent work spits in the face of my dead countrymen.

As yet another innocent person has their head severed by Islamic "extremists," Moore apparently glosses over the fact that democracy in general and America specifically is under attack. I am innately aware that Michael Moore is first and foremost a provocateur, and he thrives on controversy. I am also sure that he will smile gleefully at this Op-Ed piece, because I mention his film, which is free advertising. He has gone on record on his web site as saying that he hopes we will watch his movie, even if we disagree, because his facts and analysis are correct. He notes that he has a "dogged commitment to uncovering the facts."

I am not holding my breath. With the aforementioned facts in mind, I must still speak. Michael Moore has released the cinematic equivalent of a French kiss to all who hate America. He is the leading exponent of HATRIOTISM.

"HATE-RIOTISM" describes the new breeze blowing through the American media. It is now "cool" and "relevant" to mock everything for which our soldiers are fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan. Criticizing democracy and America has long been in vogue in continental Europe, from those who look with disdain at American "naiveté," while still lamenting the Islamic onslaught. Now imported to our shores, hatriotism is the simplest way to get the growing contingent of professional protestors who populate television audiences to cheer. Mock America. Mock our involvement in Iraq. Mock President Bush…and get rousing applause.

The only problem is…America has freed my kinsmen.

I am a Persian Turkish immigrant raised as a Sunni Muslim, and in the interest of full disclosure, I must state that I left Islam in 1982, and became an American citizen. Yet as I survey the current cultural landscape, I cannot help but be less than enthused when Michael Moore states that his film is a call to true patriotism.

The present conflict is not a war against Islam, and neither is it a "war for oil." In the previous six military endeavors, American troops sided with Muslims who were under attack, and there are much less extreme methods of garnering oil. This is a war of ideologies, and with Fahrenheit 911, Moore clearly shows his.

His visual narrative of Lila Lipscombe, a Flint, Michigan mother who sent her sons to the military and "lives to regret it," as Roger Friedman of FOXNews.com notes, is "unexpectedly poignant."

I wonder — was Moore equally moved when he heard of the honor killings which daily threatened the lives of Muslim women in Afghanistan? Was he equally as outraged at the female circumcision practices in my countrymen's lands, because it lessens the threat of adultery?

In fact, I wonder…where were all the "hatriots" when our soldiers freed all the women of Afghanistan from the Taliban? Where were the feminists when our soldiers liberated the Afghan women to be educated for the first time in years?

The irony is, for all of their false bravado behind the First Amendment and their right to "free speech," the hatriots are exercising this right because American men and women shed their blood to afford them this right against those who would seek to oppress it. I would invite Michael Moore to my homeland to make a movie criticizing Turkish oppression and see what happens. The freedom he enjoys now was purchased with a dear price.

The central fact of the current controversy is the conflict between Islamic theocracy and American democracy. Islam has not now nor has it ever allowed religious freedom or freedom of expression. The best the Islamic republics can offer is "religious toleration." Based on the "Pact of Umar," religious toleration allows non-Muslims to enter Islamic republics, but they must pay a tax (jizyat). They can practice their faiths, but they cannot convert anyone from Islam. To do so means deportation or worse.

Further, Islamic prophecy foretells of worldwide conversion to Sharia law under Islam, and thus, those who are fighting against us are "holy warriors." In this instance, I would say our president is half-right. He says we are not at war with Islam. I agree. However, a significant portion of Islam is in fact at war with us.

And Michael Moore is blind to it all.

The clearest definition of religious freedom and freedom of expression I can make is this — the religious freedom America offers means that I would fight and die for a Muslim's right to build a Mosque in every city in America. It is precisely this freedom for which our soldiers are fighting.

In recent days, it has become fashionable for those like Moore to say, "I support the troops, but not the war." This is the equivalent to saying, "I support doctors but not surgery." The position they hold is ludicrous at best, and insulting at worst. When my brother, also a professor and my co-author in five books, and I came out in support of the Iraqi intervention, we began to be accosted by peace protestors when we spoke. I found this amusing. Allow me to say it emphatically: I support the troops…and their mission.

Our soldiers — your sons and daughters — are fighting to preserve Michael Moore's freedom to produce such works that mock their very existence. I hope he realizes that. They are allowing my countrymen the right to freely express themselves without being stoned to death as a consequence. Or have their heads severed slowly while their executioners are chanting "Allah hu Akbar."

There is one final irony. There is a film producer who has worked for years, chasing down Michael Moore in an effort to interview him. The young man, named Michael Wilson, is making a documentary titled Michael Moore Hates America. So far, Moore has dodged him at every turn. Anyone who knows cinema recognizes that this is the exact tactic Moore took in his film Roger and Me, as he chased an automobile executive for an interview. Do you see the paradox? Because Michael Moore is now in the mainstream of hatriotism, and now the young conservatives are the radicals, Moore has become his own worst nightmare. Michael Moore has become that which he mocked. He has become an aloof elite.

Count me among the radicals.

 

[JIHADTHIS]

A reality that Moore and Co. will never be able to change is that the majority of people in Iraq will never again be surpressed, killed, and tortured by Saddam and his minions, even if we packed up and took all our toys home tomorrow. And that's a good thing.

 

[Annie]

Originally posted by JIHADTHIS
A reality that Moore and Co. will never be able to change is that the majority of people in Iraq will never again be surpressed, killed, and tortured by Saddam and his minions, even if we packed up and took all our toys home tomorrow. And that's a good thing.

Well said. :clap1:

 

[Gop guy]

Originally posted by GWBfan
You are right. He doesn't lie about "everything"..Just 90% of his info. And no he isn't smarter than our president. He is just in a position to influence the liberal media, and use Hollywood as his go-to guys. Michael Moore needs to eat enough to finally keel over with a coronary. America would be blessed.

 

[007]

Originally posted by Kathianne
Well here is an interesting poster you might wish to pass out, in order to start a kerfuffle after the 911 movie lets out:

http://www.moorewatch.com/f911flyer.pdf

via: http://www.classicalvalues.com/

Where there are a lot more suggestions on how the public might deal with Moore's piece of 'art'.

Thank you for the links Kathianne. I not only saved the flyer document, but I printed out twenty five of them. Whenever I go anywhere that looks like it has an opportune place to put one up, I will.