Mi teen attacks bus driver

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    Mich. teen who attacked bus driver sentenced - WLNS TV 6 Lansing Jackson Michigan News and Weather - WLNS.COM |

    I've seen the video, and my question is this: Why the hell isn't this punk, who had a violent history, charged as an adult? his kid WILL grow u to commit a felony assault or murder- the prosecutor is helping ensure that by teaching him that his brings no real punishment
     
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    Have you no COMPASSION? Obama plans to nominate a Supreme Court Justice that uses Compassion in making decisions. This is gonna get worse not better.

    The law decided not by what it says but how the Judge FEELS it should work.
     
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    It's obvious the kid is nuts and needs mental help.
     
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    People are quite resistant to the concept of mental illness and treating it. We may as well be in the Stone Age.
     
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    How old is the teenager? Do you know?

    I'm not a huge fan of trying juveniles as adults. It just doesn't work very well for anyone involved, and it's a band-aid on a larger problem of dealing with violent young offenders. Adult facilities are generally not set up to handle juveniles, and it leads to significant risks to everyone involved, including other inmates. Believe it or not, having worked with the prison system, the 16-18 year olds tried as adults are very difficult to supervise, and pose a risk to inmates 50+.

    I will say that I think that we need to look into developing young adult jails for ages 16 to 24, and that these facilities should focus on educational issues, mental health issues, substance use issues, and cognitive restructuring.

    Unlike previous generations, we have a large number of very poorly socialized young adults in this age group that are responsible for the majority of crime in most communities, and many of them are also gang-involved, which leads to other issues in supervision of confinement.
     
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    Mental illness is a difficult concept for most to grasp. Without experiencing it first hand, either personally or through someone who may be close, it is difficult to understand how someone could be that messed up. I have the same issue as I've never known anyone to be truly mentally ill.

    My biggest concern is that some of these people may be untreatable. I don't know if that is true or not, but based on the fact that some of these people never seem to be cured, I would say that is a fair assessment. While the state may see to it that someone with a mental illness will receive treatment, for how long is the state willing to pay for such treatment before the individual seeps through the cracks and is out on the streets again, ready to commit another crime due to their illness?

    No answers here, just observations.
     
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    As a sufferer of mental illness in more ways than one, I don't think it's a "cure" that should be researched but a way to teach these youths how to live in society. I think catzmeow has a very good idea. I think that would reduce repeat offenders, drug abuse, and ease prison over population. I know from my interest in drug laws that treatment has a larger effect than punishment. I'm definitely not proclaiming that all criminal youths should receive treatment instead of going to prison, but it should be one of the options.
     
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    I just watched the video and witnessed a future murderer beat someone up.
     
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    Which he can get while being kept away from his potential victims

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    There are Minors wards

    Depends on what level they are. If they go after an Elder w/out justification, they get a Green Light on their punk ass and end up PCing up

    It's good to befriend the Heads and Elders on the yard. They'll tell ya how to keep from gettin' yourself in a wreck ;)
    I concur.

    Because the last generation can't raise children because they're a bunch of no-good fucking hippies

    Can you put up a link? I couldn't find it online (saw it on the news)
     
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    Actually, these types of services are much more limited and difficult to access in the adult system.

    I generally think that trying individuals at this age as adults is poorly advised.


    Wrong. In most states, young offenders go into general population.

    You've been watching too much television.

    See above.

    I like blaming the babyboomers, myself.
     

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