MI Moving to a Right to Work State!!! Congrats!!!

[Dreamy]

I saw the union goons yelling and screaming on TV.

The police should crack their fucking skulls in.

It just sucks all the way around. I understand their anger and unions did great things a while back. Lets hope we don't swing too far the other way and have to fight them.industrial revolution battles again.

The American worker of today often gets squeezed by either the employers or the unions. Don't be naive however. Fair wage full time American jobs are getting harder to find.

Who do you blame? Unions alone are not the problem.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

I saw the union goons yelling and screaming on TV.

The police should crack their fucking skulls in.

You oppose people's First Amendment rights?

 

[saveliberty]

I saw the union goons yelling and screaming on TV.

The police should crack their fucking skulls in.

You oppose people's First Amendment rights?

I oppose union people who think they can access places the general public is not allowed.

 

[GoneBezerk]

1) they aren't the majority. They lose in the elections so they resort to invading the state buildings to shout down any politician that doesn't give them what they want.

2) Storming public buildings to disturb the peace and operations of the state Government should bring the police to crack their skulls to pieces.

I saw the union goons yelling and screaming on TV.

The police should crack their fucking skulls in.

You oppose people's First Amendment rights?

 

[Si modo]

1) they aren't the majority. They lose in the elections so they resort to invading the state buildings to shout down any politician that doesn't give them what they want.

2) Storming public buildings to disturb the peace and operations of the state Government should bring the police to crack their skulls to pieces.

I saw the union goons yelling and screaming on TV.

The police should crack their fucking skulls in.

You oppose people's First Amendment rights?

Ummm, no. They closed the Senate to the public citing 'danger'. We don't close public buildings like that. It's wrong. Thankfully, a judge ordered it open again.

I'm not defending folks who decide to be violent during a protest at all. But, on that, I totally agree with their protesting.

Now, if the union protestors can't keep their shit about them in protesting this bill, then I agree with more pepper spray.

 

[syrenn]

Way to go! Step in the right direction to save another state from Union Thuggery that destroys industries and decimates our manufacturing sector!!!

Politics: Michigan's Governor, Rick Snyder, announces right-to-work fight | CainTV
After living under the tax-and-spend yoke of Jennifer Granholm for eight years, Michigan was in complete financial disarray. The state changed course in 2011, after placing Republican Rick Snyder in the Governor's mansion. In just one year, he managed to begin the turnaround, posting a $457 million surplus. Since then, most believe he's done a solid job of steering Michigan toward a better future.

Snyder has announced that he wants to see Michigan's legislature pass right a right-to-work bill, and that he'll definitely sign it when it makes it to his office.

According to State House Speaker Jase Bolger, the move is a no-brainer. "Workers," he said, "deserve the freedom to decide which organizations they want to join and which organizations they do not want to join. These are values that should unite us, they should not divide us."

The new law would affect almost 20% of Michigan's workforce, though it would include exemptions for police and firefighter unions. These organizations are protected by existing law and the state constitution.

Given that GM, Ford, and Chrysler are all headquartered in the Detroit area, the repercussions are as much national as they are local. While spoiled, union-controlled, Detroit leadership demands a federal bailout, the rest of us have been fighting to free the area from their influence. In a state where the unions have spent eighty years cementing their power and buying their influence, you can rest assured that the battle is about to get very, very, nasty.

Just imagine a Michigan, and a big three, that had finally been relieved of an unalterable adherence to oppressive, lopsided, union contracts.

 

[Mr. Peepers]

How on earth does anyone see this as a good thing? Good lord. You don't think workers should have any leverage in the workplace? Well, at least you know wages will be taking a real dive there. Good job, corporatist morons.

 

[GoneBezerk]

If these unions were legit and their arguments were legit then people would march in the streets like the civil rights marches in the 60s.

Unions understand they are a lunatic fringe group in society that isn't supported by other Americans so they take their fight directly to those that can stick it to them....state politicians passing the laws.

Normal Americans are at their jobs getting less pay while these union goons are storming the state government to demand their bullshit scams stay intact....pure bullshit.

 

[blastoff]

Ah, right here in the great state of Michigan. What a nice kick to the nuts of the organized labor stooges. Who knows what it might lead to...perhaps someday some UAW career lug nut tightener will instead earn pay and benefits more commensurate with his limited work skills.

 

[Si modo]

How on earth does anyone see this as a good thing? Good lord. You don't think workers should have any leverage in the workplace? Well, at least you know wages will be taking a real dive there. Good job, corporatist morons.

No one said that except for you.

But, keep arguing with yourself. It's sorta cute.

 

[GoneBezerk]

Idiot...why should someone be forced to join a union? Why should their mandatory union dues be funneled to Democrap politicians without any say in it?

Union workers make more money than their peers, is that fair? 1,000 workers in a plant figured out they can hold the company by the balls by forming a union and squeezing every dime out of the company until it goes bankrupt......that is success in your fucked up mind.

How on earth does anyone see this as a good thing? Good lord. You don't think workers should have any leverage in the workplace? Well, at least you know wages will be taking a real dive there. Good job, corporatist morons.

 

[boilermaker55]

Great idea for those that don't want to fight for what they deserve. Take a little time and research the difference of states that are RTW, and by region in the state, compared to those that have the right to collective bargaining.
Then maybe do some research on what board members do in their meetings. I wonder if they sit and "collective" have an idea of how to treat workers etc.
Let me start you on the path of real education in the work world.
Table 1). Our best estimate is that workers living in right-to-work states earn, on average, 6.5% less than similar workers in non-RTW states.

Table 1

An analysis along gender lines reveals similar trends. On average, men in RTW states earn 7.8% less than their counterparts in non-RTW states; women in RTW states earn 6.8% less (Table 2).

Table 2

Unlike previous research by Bennett (2001), we find that, even after controlling for regional costs of living, workers in right-to-work states earn less per hour. Particularly interesting is the affect on workers living in cities that are stretch across state line, placing it in both a right-to-work state and a non-RTW state. Seventeen out of 433 metropolitan areas in our sample (nearly 4%) spill over from a right-to-work state to a non-RTW state. Our analysis indicates that, in areas where a pure RTW state effect exists (i.e., no spill-over effect), the right-to-work penalty is larger.

Oh, surely those that hate to admit to facts will tell how this is some progressive blog and discard it which is the usual modus operandi for the neo cons.
Good luck Michigan and good luck to the workers of this country.
It is headed to the Plutocracy we deserve.

 

[boilermaker55]

Idiot, why should workers that help make a company profitable get lower wages while the CEO's take the bulk of the profit. Why should CEO's who have no foresight for the company and drive them to bankruptcy get million dollar bonuses.
IDIOT!

Idiot...why should someone be forced to join a union? Why should their mandatory union dues be funneled to Democrap politicians without any say in it?

Union workers make more money than their peers, is that fair? 1,000 workers in a plant figured out they can hold the company by the balls by forming a union and squeezing every dime out of the company until it goes bankrupt......that is success in your fucked up mind.

How on earth does anyone see this as a good thing? Good lord. You don't think workers should have any leverage in the workplace? Well, at least you know wages will be taking a real dive there. Good job, corporatist morons.

 

[Si modo]

Idiot, why should workers that help make a company profitable get lower wages while the CEO's take the bulk of the profit. Why should CEO's who have no foresight for the company and drive them to bankruptcy get million dollar bonuses.
IDIOT!

Just like GM's CEOs and just like GM went bankrupt.

Oh, wait....GM is union.

 

[saveliberty]

Great idea for those that don't want to fight for what they deserve. Take a little time and research the difference of states that are RTW, and by region in the state, compared to those that have the right to collective bargaining.
Then maybe do some research on what board members do in their meetings. I wonder if they sit and "collective" have an idea of how to treat workers etc.
Let me start you on the path of real education in the work world.
Table 1). Our best estimate is that workers living in right-to-work states earn, on average, 6.5% less than similar workers in non-RTW states.

Table 1

An analysis along gender lines reveals similar trends. On average, men in RTW states earn 7.8% less than their counterparts in non-RTW states; women in RTW states earn 6.8% less (Table 2).

Table 2

Unlike previous research by Bennett (2001), we find that, even after controlling for regional costs of living, workers in right-to-work states earn less per hour. Particularly interesting is the affect on workers living in cities that are stretch across state line, placing it in both a right-to-work state and a non-RTW state. Seventeen out of 433 metropolitan areas in our sample (nearly 4%) spill over from a right-to-work state to a non-RTW state. Our analysis indicates that, in areas where a pure RTW state effect exists (i.e., no spill-over effect), the right-to-work penalty is larger.

Oh, surely those that hate to admit to facts will tell how this is some progressive blog and discard it which is the usual modus operandi for the neo cons.
Good luck Michigan and good luck to the workers of this country.
It is headed to the Plutocracy we deserve.

Not to worry boilermaker, as companies move to right to work states it will equal out. You'll be okay though, because all your guys are highly skilled and hard workers....

 

[Gadawg73]

How on earth does anyone see this as a good thing? Good lord. You don't think workers should have any leverage in the workplace? Well, at least you know wages will be taking a real dive there. Good job, corporatist morons.

Workers have plenty of leverage in the work place in a right to work state versus a union shop state.
Between their ears and at the end of their legs.
They can walk and educate themselves for what the market demands.
The individual with a good attitude and work ethic is far more powerful, and most importantly a more desired employee by any business, than the union worker.
What is amazing is that this surprises people.

 

[Gadawg73]

Where's Joe?

 

[Si modo]

Where's Joe?

Beating on his employer with a baseball bat.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

How on earth does anyone see this as a good thing? Good lord. You don't think workers should have any leverage in the workplace?

Who's leverage has been taken away?

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

1) they aren't the majority.

Since when are our guaranteed Constitutional rights dependent upon being part of the majority?

They lose in the elections so they resort to invading the state buildings to shout down any politician that doesn't give them what they want.

Like the Tea Party?

Storming public buildings to disturb the peace and operations of the state Government should bring the police to crack their skulls to pieces.

People have the right to petition their government. As long as they are not inflicting physical harm on anyone, there is no one reason for that right to be suspended.